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To: SBHX who wrote (150751)11/3/2004 12:47:10 AM
From: Sun Tzu
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As I said, it can mean either of the two meanings. I'd have to listen to the tape in Arabic to tell you.

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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (150752)11/3/2004 12:50:55 AM
From: SBHX
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It could mean land/region in theory, but even in Saudi Arabia and Yemen (UBL's old haunts), Wilayat means a province/municipality of the country.

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To: SBHX who wrote (150753)11/3/2004 12:59:18 AM
From: Sun Tzu
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Except that OBL likes to be poetic in his speeches. In modern Arabic, often Wilayat means as you have translated it. But using the word in its original meaning is not so strange, depending on the context.

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From: Keith Feral11/3/2004 1:09:20 AM
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Bush picks up Alaska for 3 more votes - 249 and counting. Ohio and New Mexico should be ready shortly. Just regained the lead in Iowa. 88% exit poll status in Ohio. New Mexico is remaining very strong. Tick tock...

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To: Keith Feral who wrote (150755)11/3/2004 1:22:23 AM
From: jlallen
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Two networks have already called OH for GWB....

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To: Brumar89 who wrote (150737)11/3/2004 1:22:54 AM
From: Proud Deplorable
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in name only? interesting point you raise. How many pure isms are really out there these days?

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To: jlallen who wrote (150756)11/3/2004 1:45:04 AM
From: Keith Feral
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OHIO, Iowa, and New Mexico should all go with Bush. I can not believe how much the polls misled people to think that Kerry could pass himself off as a leader to the Midwest and Southeast. This race only looks close at the end. This election was over at about 9 pm if they would have made the appropriate forecasts. That doesn't sell broadcasting time, so I will give them a break. Guess I might turn on the tube to listen to Bush's acceptance speech. Then again...<g>

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To: FaultLine who wrote (150289)11/3/2004 3:41:47 AM
From: LindyBill
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Hi, FL. I guess Kerry didn't take the Indians to lunch! :>)

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From: cnyndwllr11/3/2004 4:08:47 AM
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Let me be one of the first to congratulate those of you who were supporting the Bush ticket. Many of us are disappointed although not surprised. It was a tough election fought very well by the Bush/Cheney election team and clearly won in the hearts and minds of a slim majority of Americans.

I doubt that this Bush win will change any minds among those of us who strongly oppose the ideology and/or the policies of the Bush Administration. I imagine that the battle lines will remain locked and that we are in for another four turbulent years. I hope the chickens that Bush hatched don't come home to roost but I'm not hopeful.

I do believe that the true conservatives who think with their minds and not their "guts," will join with moderates to rein in faith-based, neocon, magical thinkers.

Let the struggle continue.

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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (150760)11/3/2004 4:29:33 AM
From: redfish
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Look at the bright side, only four more years until the next election.

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