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From: Keith Feral11/3/2004 12:27:32 AM
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Montana and Colorado were just placed on Bush side. NM and OH is all we need. OH is 80% complete with Cuyahoga county 80% complete. Not too much more waiting for this one to be official.

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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (150749)11/3/2004 12:38:24 AM
From: SBHX
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Wilayat probably means region or state in muslim terminology. For example, Algeria uses Wilayat for its provinces. Sudan also uses Wilayat for 'states'.

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This is one item in the UBL speech the US MSM edited out. In the Al-Jazeera english translation, UBL was clearly warning each state in the US to back off --- a divide and conquer strategy.

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To: SBHX who wrote (150751)11/3/2004 12:47:10 AM
From: Sun Tzu
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As I said, it can mean either of the two meanings. I'd have to listen to the tape in Arabic to tell you.

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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (150752)11/3/2004 12:50:55 AM
From: SBHX
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It could mean land/region in theory, but even in Saudi Arabia and Yemen (UBL's old haunts), Wilayat means a province/municipality of the country.

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To: SBHX who wrote (150753)11/3/2004 12:59:18 AM
From: Sun Tzu
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Except that OBL likes to be poetic in his speeches. In modern Arabic, often Wilayat means as you have translated it. But using the word in its original meaning is not so strange, depending on the context.

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From: Keith Feral11/3/2004 1:09:20 AM
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Bush picks up Alaska for 3 more votes - 249 and counting. Ohio and New Mexico should be ready shortly. Just regained the lead in Iowa. 88% exit poll status in Ohio. New Mexico is remaining very strong. Tick tock...

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To: Keith Feral who wrote (150755)11/3/2004 1:22:23 AM
From: jlallen
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Two networks have already called OH for GWB....

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To: Brumar89 who wrote (150737)11/3/2004 1:22:54 AM
From: Proud Deplorable
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in name only? interesting point you raise. How many pure isms are really out there these days?

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To: jlallen who wrote (150756)11/3/2004 1:45:04 AM
From: Keith Feral
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OHIO, Iowa, and New Mexico should all go with Bush. I can not believe how much the polls misled people to think that Kerry could pass himself off as a leader to the Midwest and Southeast. This race only looks close at the end. This election was over at about 9 pm if they would have made the appropriate forecasts. That doesn't sell broadcasting time, so I will give them a break. Guess I might turn on the tube to listen to Bush's acceptance speech. Then again...<g>

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To: FaultLine who wrote (150289)11/3/2004 3:41:47 AM
From: LindyBill
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Hi, FL. I guess Kerry didn't take the Indians to lunch! :>)

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