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To: Neocon who wrote (150678)11/2/2004 6:01:30 PM
From: Sun Tzu
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I was being sarcastic by applying the Neoconioan logic to Bush!

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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (150681)11/2/2004 6:04:55 PM
From: Sun Tzu
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Released: November 02, 2004
Our Call
Zogby International's 2004 Predictions
(as of Nov. 2, 2004 5:00pm)

2004 Presidential Election

Electoral Votes:

Bush
213

Kerry
311

Too Close To Call
Nevada (5)

Too Close To Call
Colorado (9)


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Zogby International Finds: Bush at 49.4%, Kerry at 49.1%

The nationwide telephone poll of 955 likely voters was conducted (November 1-2, 2004). The MOE is +/- 3.2

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Here's how we got there...

2004: Repeat of 2000 Figures: George Bush (Electoral Vote) UT 5 KS 6
WY 3 MS 6
ID 4 SC 8
AK 3 IN 11
NE 5 KY 8
ND 3 AL 9
MT 3 GA 15
SD 3 LA 9
OK 7 TX 34
John Kerry (Electoral Vote) ME 4 MD 10
VT 3 CT 7
IL 21 HI 4
RI 4 NY 31
DE 3 MA 12
NJ 15 DC 3
CA 55



Red State Totals (Using Current 2004 Electoral Vote Numbers):
142 Blue State Totals (Using Current 2004 Electoral Vote Numbers):
172

2004 Battleground States:

2000
2004
Our Call
Bush Electoral Votes
Kerry Electoral Votes


%Margin
%Margin



Arizona (10)*
Bush + 6.28%
Bush 6%
10
-

Arkansas (6)*
Bush + 5.44%
Bush 3%
6
-

Colorado (9)
Bush + 8.36%
Too Close To Call
-
-

Florida (27)
Bush + 0.01%
Kerry .1%
Trending Kerry
-
27

Iowa (7)
Gore + 0.31%
Kerry 5%
-
7

Michigan (17)
Gore + 5.13%
Kerry 6%
-
17

Minnesota (10)
Gore + 2.4%
Kerry 6%
-
10

Missouri (11)*
Bush + 3.34%
Bush 3%
11
-

Nevada (5)
Bush + 3.55%
Too Close To Call
-
-

New Hampshire (4) *
Bush + 1.27%
Kerry 5%
-
4

New Mexico (5)
Gore + 0.06%
Kerry 3%
-
5

North Carolina (15)*
Bush + 12.83%
Bush 3%
15
-

Oregon (7)*
Gore + 0.44%
Kerry 10%
-
7

Ohio (20)
Bush + 3.51%
Bush 2%
Trending Kerry
-
20

Pennsylvania (21)
Gore + 4.17%
Trending Kerry
-
21

Tennessee (11)*
Bush + 3.86%
Bush 4%
11
-

Virginia (13)* Bush + 7.00% Bush 13 -
Washington (11)*
Gore + 5.58%
Kerry 11%
-
11

West Virginia (5)*
Bush + 6.32%
Bush 4%
5
-

Wisconsin (10)
Gore + 0.22%
Kerry 6%
-
10

Battleground State Totals 71 139
Current Grand Total: 213 311

* States denoted with an asterisk were polled online in Zogby Interactive surveys.

(as of Nov. 2, 2004 5:00pm)

(11/1/2004)

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To: Dr. Id who wrote (150646)11/2/2004 6:10:29 PM
From: jlallen
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LOL!!

What a freakin joke...as far as I can tell Clinton was the "Special Needs Prez"...thank God for GWB!!

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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (150671)11/2/2004 6:10:46 PM
From: Michael Watkins
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Osama bin Laden just threatened every state

Whether he threatened individual states of the United States of America, or nation-states, is perhaps open to interpretation but in my opinion your interpretation seems wildly off the mark.

He threatened "states which attack us" - while at the same time said that neither Bush nor Kerry could deliver security. Unless Bin Laden was making a veiled reference to electing Nader (why would he be that obtuse), he's really talking about nation-states.

Nation-states fits far better than the other interpretation, since nation-states (including coalition partners in Iraq, NATO forces in Afghanistan) actually have waged war against Saddam (Iraq) and Al Qaeda (Afghanistan).

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To: Win Smith who wrote (150679)11/2/2004 6:11:02 PM
From: Neocon
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You know, the election is happening as we speak. Not everything has to be turned into a contest. Why can't you give Nadine a break? Her comment was reasonable and innocent.

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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (150671)11/2/2004 6:11:36 PM
From: jlallen
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LOLOLOL!!!

That's our Winny boy...!!!

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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (150681)11/2/2004 6:11:58 PM
From: Neocon
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Okie dokie, sport. Whatever that may mean........

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To: jlallen who wrote (150686)11/2/2004 6:13:12 PM
From: Neocon
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I may return as things become clearer over the evening. Meanwhile, have a good time, folks. It ain't over, Zogby notwithstanding........

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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (150671)11/2/2004 6:13:55 PM
From: Win Smith
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Just for irritation's sake, I dug up this transcript, which seems to not exactly support MEMRI's strenuous efforts on W's behalf. The inference about US states voting for W seems quite a stretch, given the Sweden thing. english.aljazeera.net

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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (150676)11/2/2004 6:14:46 PM
From: Michael Watkins
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I can't find a single Arab (of any religious belief) or Muslim in my circle of friends or acquaintances that supports Bush - certainly not on the issue of the Middle East or Iraq in particular.

I'm sure there are some out there that support conservative agendas in general - many immigrant communities are far more socially conservative than their native born neighbors. But when the discussion turns to Iraq, I've yet to find a single person that is willing to support the current crew at the helm.

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