| To: flint who wrote (2141) | 9/1/2002 1:43:03 AM | | From: Thomas M. | | | | So how does that mesh with the founder of Zionism saying 1897 (about half a century before the first concentration camp) "Let us spirit the penniless Arabs across the border"?
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| To: epsteinbd who wrote (2140) | 9/1/2002 2:18:59 AM | | From: Thomas M. | | | | I didn't blame him for being afraid of assassins, did I? Fear of death is a normal human reaction.
Here's more info on some of the militants that will likely "go postal" if a Palestinian state is born:
mediamonitors.net
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| To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (2114) | 9/1/2002 2:17:33 PM | | From: skinowski | | | | Gus, if you would bother reading some of the scheisse you are posting, you would be forced to change your views (sicK!). This article was published in Jerusalem Post, and is a normal example of free press in action.
In your remark you compare the (?) list with Gestapo “blacklisting” Jews… “Blacklisting” indeed… What about mass murdering? Ask some old people among your own neighbors, they’ll tell you. |
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| To: flint who wrote (2141) | 9/1/2002 4:41:46 PM | | From: pie-faced-mutt | | | | As if the foreign colonizers, aka the Isra-Elis want peace. How will Zionist lebensraum be carried forward in a state of peace?
The only democracy in the Middle East is a myth and the result of Madison Avenue Advertising agencies, paid for by American taxpayers through direct subsidy or through tax-deductible non-profit agencies and charities.
If Germany and Europe in general returned to peace after Hitler, why were not the European Jews repatriated? |
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| To: epsteinbd who wrote (2138) | 9/1/2002 5:26:02 PM | | From: pie-faced-mutt | | | | For any other Arab country to let Isra-El off the hook and provide land to the Palestinian refugees, so the Isra-Elis would not have to atone for their deeds, would be music to the Zionists ears. Why set any precedents?
"Finally, what could I possible do in a place where women are set aside from me???"
I have been chastised for sitting with girlfriends in the women's section. I know what you mean. |
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| To: pie-faced-mutt who wrote (2145) | 9/1/2002 6:23:01 PM | | From: flint | | | | Wether we talk about the Quakers that migrated to new lands, the Puritans, the Amish, the Menimites, the Mormons, or the Jews that settled in Israel. Over and over again those that up root themselves want nothing more than to live in peace.
There is no two way streak here where peace can not be acheive because the Jews do not want it. The proof lies in the fact that a nation that has the abilty to destroy the Palestinans and drive them off the land has chosen not to. The proof lives in the fact that a backward people, the Palastinans, utilize every oppertunity to kill.
Look at the number of Palestinans that are allowed to freely enter Jewish areas for employment and travel. What would happen to a Jew that walks through a Palestinan area?
The world knows who the problem is.
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| To: flint who wrote (2147) | 9/1/2002 7:54:23 PM | | From: pie-faced-mutt | | | | If the world knows who the problem is, as the Serbs were in Kosovo (Serbia makes a valid claim that Kosovo was once Greater Serbia) and Iraq was in Kuwait (Iraq makes a valid claim that Kuwait was once part of Iraq), when it comes to Isra-El the consistency breaks down and the interlopers are allowed to occupy foreign soil based on Bible stories with the majority of these new inhabitants non-observant and secular from the Commandments that was supposed to have granted the land of Canaan.
If the world knows who the problem is, why does America prop up a rogue colony over the objections of the rest of the world at American expense? |
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| To: pie-faced-mutt who wrote (2146) | 9/1/2002 8:04:22 PM | | From: epsteinbd | | | | When I was a kid, I couldn't visit the Western wall because I was Jewish, and now I still can't visit it because the women are pushed aside by the Rabbis; and, refusing to even apartheid Bush man or and Texans, how can I possible segregate ladies, especially when some are of extreme beauty?!
So I am stuck because the masses of Rabbis, Mullas, Talibs, and Priest can't even understand the real meaning of their own book.
Not that I miss much. As my Temple is full of dazzling Goddesses (non virgin, dressed in a one color veil each), and for all to see, my Western wall shall be made of glass...
If you study all night and become a wise man, some day you may be a High ranking Scribe of the "Dieux Femmes Grand". Especially if you still have this head of yours in your profile. |
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| To: pie-faced-mutt who wrote (2148) | 9/1/2002 8:22:08 PM | | From: flint | | | | My New Muslim Hero
Wednesday November 28, 2001
My new Muslim hero
by Joseph Farah
Yasser Arafat has more blood on his hands – this time Muslim blood.
About six weeks ago, one of Arafat's chief critics, Zohair Hamdan, the muktar of the Jerusalem neighborhood of Sur Bahir, was gunned down by would-be assassins who fired nine rounds, hitting the Arab peace crusader with five.
When Jerusalem's Arab neighborhoods were scheduled to fall under Palestinian Authority control under the peace plan of former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, Hamdan protested, saying he would prefer to remain under Israeli sovereignty rather than Arafat's.
Courageously, Hamdan did something that is without precedent in the world of Arab politics. He launched a petition campaign, collecting more than 10,000 signatures of Jerusalem Arabs opposing Arafat's rule.
Understand the risks involved. Not only did Hamdan put his life on the line with that petition, every single one of those 10,000 signators did as well. That is the nature of the kind of no-opposition-tolerated "Palestinian politics" officially supported by the U.S. government in its continued embrace of Arafat.
Sure enough, immediately after the petition drive was completed, the Palestinian Authority began threatening Hamdan. His name was placed on the PA's wanted list. Hamdan was declared an enemy on Hezbollah television. His effigy was placed on an electric pole by Marwan Barghouti, a leader of Arafat's Fatah organization.
"I knew the risks, I took them into account, but I knew I was doing the right thing," Hamdan later told an interviewer from the Jerusalem Post.
Hamdan didn't back down a bit following the threats. He began visiting Israelis wounded in terrorist attacks and condemning violence on both sides. Last November, he led a delegation of Jerusalem muktars to Gilo to condemn the shooting in that Jewish neighborhood. Last January, he visited a 12-year-old Jewish boy wounded in a shooting attack in a Jerusalem suburb.
Then, at 5:45 p.m. Oct. 5, as Hamdan strolled in the courtyard of his home in southeastern Jerusalem, the nine shots rang out. Hit by five shots in the abdomen, shoulder and leg, Hamdan was able to call the police and ambulance and shout for help before collapsing.
Topping the suspect list in the attempted assassination is Arafat's own Fatah organization.
It's not the exception for Arafat to gun down political opponents in his own Muslim community. It's the rule. This is how Arafat has remained the undisputed "leader of the Palestinian people" without the benefit of an election in the last 35 years.
Meanwhile, Hamdan says the attack has only strengthened his resolve to fight for peace and co-existence with the Jews.
In December, he plans to create a Muslim, Christian and Jewish forum against violence. He wants to direct a joint message opposing more bloodshed to Arafat.
"Any little boy can see through Arafat's failed leadership," Hamdan says. "It is in Arafat's interest that the bloodshed continue, for without violence and bloodshed, he cannot survive."
Let me suggest that Hamdan, not Arafat, is the kind of man with whom peace negotiations can be conducted in good faith. Why doesn't the U.S. recognize this kind of enlightened opposition leadership? Why does Washington continue to place all of its bets on the broken-down horse named Arafat?
Hamdan says he believes Arafat's grasp on power is more tenuous than the West understands. He believes he will soon fall from power due to internal Palestinian strife. And he believes that will represent Arafat's just desserts.
"He has done nothing but bring bloodshed and death to his people," he says of Arafat. "The Palestinians have had enough of him, but they are just afraid."
It's time for U.S. officials to stop lending credibility to murderers like Arafat and start searching for alternative leadership among the Arabs in Israel. It's time for the U.S. to stop the unconscionable transfers of U.S. taxpayer wealth to this criminal – who, like some demented version of the Energizer bunny, just keeps on killing. It's time for the U.S. to make good on its pledge to fight terrorism wherever it is found. It's time to take that war right into Arafat's home turf.
Often, I am asked what alternatives Israel and the U.S. have to negotiations with Arafat. You've just met one. His name is Zohair Hamdan.
Joseph Farah is editor and chief executive officer of WorldNetDaily.com and writes a daily column. Get an autographed, first-edition copy of Joseph Farah's 1996 book, "This Land Is Our Land," published by St. Martin's Press |
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| To: Machaon who wrote (2136) | 9/2/2002 4:33:26 AM | | From: GUSTAVE JAEGER | | | | Still more confusing news, Bob:
Which of the following is true?
A) The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
B) The friend of my enemy is my friend.
TIP:
Russian work on nuclear plant in Iran enters key stage, official says
September 1, 2002 Posted: 4:12 PM EDT (2012 GMT)
MOSCOW (AP) -- Some 600 Russian specialists began work Sunday on a key phase of a $800 million project to build a nuclear reactor in Iran, a deal that has drawn strong U.S. criticism.
"We have reached the stage of assembling our reactor and the turbine," Viktor Kozlov, managing director of Atomstroiexport company, was quoted as telling ITAR-Tass news agency.
Washington has expressed concern that the planned 1,000 megawatt reactor in Bushehr will help advance Iran's weapons program. But Russia has insisted that the nuclear plant would serve purely civilian purposes and remain under international supervision.
Kozlov told ITAR-Tass that as construction of the nuclear plant in Iran enters its final stage "the number of Russian specialists will rise and will reach 2,000 people by year-end."
Despite a new, friendlier relationship with Washington, Moscow has continued to pursue close ties with Iran, Iraq and North Korea --the three countries labeled an "axis of evil" by President Bush because of their attempts to obtain weapons of mass destruction.
The Kremlin has floated preliminary plans to help Iran build another five nuclear reactors over the next 10 years.
Moscow is also discussing a long-term economic cooperation program with Baghdad that Iraqi officials say is worth $40 billion. The Kremlin, however, has downplayed the program and insisted that it would not violate U.N. sanctions.
Last month, North Korean leader Kim Jong Il visited Russia for the second consecutive summer and met with Russian President Vladimir Putin to discuss economic ties.
Copyright 2002 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.
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