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To: Thomas M. who wrote (2110)8/28/2002 5:19:45 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Did you hear about Israel's "reverse" discrimination against non-Jews? It's all becoming so confusing... I mean, when the Gestapo used to blacklist the Jews 60 years ago, it was UGLY anti-Semitism, all right... but when Judeofascist Israel does exactly the same thing, it's Okay?!? Those Judeofascist Israelis should recall that reverse blacklisting of non-Jews might lead to reverse deportation, and reverse concentration camps... and after that, they want every nation, every race, and every creed to weep over their Yad Vashem shrine --isn't it silly?

Interior Ministry accused of keeping 'blacklist' questioning Jewish identity

Dan Izenberg

Aug. 28, 2002


The Interior Ministry keeps a secret "blacklist" of Israeli citizens, apparently based on doubts regarding their religious status, and refuses to grant them services, even though it does not tell them that such a list exists and that they are on it, according to a petition submitted to the High Court of Justice earlier this week.

The petition was submitted by attorney Michael Corinaldi on behalf of T.T., an Ethiopian woman, who asked that her full name not be published. T.T. immigrated to Israel in 1987, was registered as a Jew, and received an identity card and Israeli passport at that time.

According to the petition, T.T. lost her identity card in April 2001 and applied to the Interior Ministry branch in Holon for a new one. At the same time, she asked to renew her passport.

The Interior Ministry refused to give her an identity card and renewed her passport for only one year, instead of the standard five years. The clerk did not explain why.

Some time later, she asked the Interior Ministry to extend her passport again. Her application was turned down and the clerk did not return her passport.

According to the petition, "The Interior Ministry clerks behaved that way because the Population Registry issued an illegal regulation. According to that regulation, the ministry changed T.T.'s original registration by canceling her classification as Jewish in religion and nationality, and adding her name to a list of residents classified as 'service-restricted.' This illegal action was carried out without summoning T.T. in person and without giving her the chance to defend herself and bring proof [of her Jewishness.]"

Corinaldi emphasized that T.T. was the sister-in-law of Yona Bugla, who headed the Ethiopian immigration movement to Israel and, after moving here in 1979, served as president of the National Council For Ethiopian Jewry.

The Interior Ministry regulation, numbered 1.2.0001, is entitled, "Regulation for Dealing with Those Who are Service-Restricted." According to the regulation, "when a resident/citizen asks for a service from the Population Authority, the registration clerk will examine his entry in the Population Registry. Before serving him, the clerk must make sure that there are no restrictions regarding the applicant. If there is a restriction, the clerk must act in accordance with it. The clerk may not inform the resident that there is a restriction regarding the service he is entitled to receive. The clerk must receive the applicant's request for service in writing, give him a receipt verifying that the request was made, and tell him his application will be handled promptly."

Corinaldi wrote that T.T. has not had an identity card since April 2001 and no longer has a passport, either. As a result, she is not entitled to any of the services or rights that require presenting an identity card or passport, even though she is an Israeli citizen in good standing.

Corinaldi wrote that, according to the Population Registry Law, no entry in the population registry may be changed unless the resident asks for it and can prove he is entitled to it. If the Interior Ministry wants to make a change in a resident's status, it must initiate judicial procedures against the resident in the Family Court.

"In this case," wrote Corinaldi, "the chief registration clerk did not initiate a judicial procedure, and did not even summon T.T. in person for a clarification. He did not have any authority whatsoever to make the change in the religion and nationality entry in the Population Registry and as such, acted illegally."

The Jerusalem Post submitted a query about the regulation to the Interior Ministry. A ministry spokeswoman said the question had been conveyed to Herzl Gedj, head of the Population Registry. By press time, no reply was forthcoming.

Meanwhile, Justice Eliahu Mazza issued a show-cause order one day after the petition was submitted and gave the state 30 days to reply to it. It is rare for the High Court of Justice to issue a show-cause order before hearing the state's case. It does so only in cases where, on the face of it, the petition appears to be particularly serious and urgent.

In the petition, Corinaldi demands that the state reclassify T.T. as Jewish and abolish the regulation.

jpost.com

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To: Thomas M. who wrote (2110)8/28/2002 8:13:45 AM
From: Brumar89
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Certainly a strange story. I notice it tends to conflict with your standard "racist" line.

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To: StormRider who wrote (2113)8/28/2002 8:24:07 AM
From: Brumar89
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Interesting article. Guess supporters of Israel can be critical as well - unlike what some say.

Here's another interesting story:

timesonline.co.uk
Palestinians kill Muslim mother
From Ross Dunn in Jerusalem
A PALESTINIAN mother of seven has been shot dead by Palestinian militants in the first known murder of a woman suspected of collaborating with Israel in the 23-month intifada.
Neighbours said that Ikhlas Yassin was dragged from her home by members of the al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades then shot several times in the head and chest in a public square in Tulkarem in the West Bank. The killing was a warning to others not to become informants for the Israeli security forces.
The group is the armed wing of the Fatah faction of Yassir Arafat, the Palestinian leader, and has led much of the fighting with Israel.
Mrs Yassin, who had been recently widowed, seemed calm as she made a forced confession to a video camera, excerpts of which were broadcast on Israeli television yesterday. She was dressed in traditional Muslim attire, including a headscarf.
Her 18-year-old son, Bakir, said last night that gunmen had tortured him until he had invented a story of his mother’s involvement in a militant’s death. Lifting his T-shirt, he showed black and blue marks that he said had been made by electrical wires shortly before his mother was killed. “They accused me of helping Israeli Intelligence,” he said. “When they started beating me with wire, I confessed and invented a story.”
The al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades admitted the killing. A Palestinian militia member in the town said that Mrs Yassin had admitted recruiting Bakir to help her in aiding the Israeli Army. Bakir was kidnapped earlier by Fatah gunmen and allegedly confessed to telling his mother of the movements of the local chief of the militia group, Ziad Da’as. A wanted member of the Brigades, Mr Da’as was shot dead with his deputy on August 7 by Israeli forces.
Hassan Khreisheh, a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council in the West Bank, condemned the killing. He said: “I don’t support such killings — it’s against human rights, beyond the law. If residents suspect someone of collaborating, they should let the Palestinian Authority investigate.”
He said that he first heard of the incident when one of Mrs Yassin’s relatives went to him, complaining of the woman’s abduction. The next thing he knew was that her body had been discovered on Saturday.
A spokesman for the Israeli human rights group B’Tselem called on Israel to stop hiring Palestinians as informants. He said that the killing was a “clear human rights violation, like any execution or murder”. He added: “If she was a collaborator, the Israeli forces that recruited her have a heavy responsibility for what has happened since they endangered her life.”
Since the start of clashes in September 2000, more than 60 Palestinians — all men — have been killed on suspicion of working for Israel’s secret police. At least 14 have been killed in Tulkarem since May.

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To: Brumar89 who wrote (2116)8/28/2002 12:39:48 PM
From: Thomas M.
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That is reminiscent of the way Jews used to execute Jews who were collaborating with the Nazis.

Tom

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To: Gersh Avery who started this subject8/28/2002 4:43:37 PM
From: pie-faced-mutt
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Israel's Iraq Dilemma

salon.com

"The Iraqi scenario has already influenced Israel's approach to the conflict with the Palestinians. Soon after Gen. Ya'alon took command last month, the military chiefs called on Sharon. They proposed a waiting period of "risk management": turning down the military heat on the Palestinian front and avoiding violent outbreaks along the Lebanese border. In their view, Israel should do everything possible to support an American attack on Iraq, and containing the local conflict is the best way to do that. The Bush administration sent a similar message to Jerusalem. The army also told Sharon that within six to 12 months the Palestinian leadership would change, with Yasser Arafat's power declining. During this period, Israel would build the fence separating it from the West Bank, thus erecting a physical barrier to Arab expansion. Sharon accepted the military's policy recommendations. He agreed to implement certain calming measures toward the Palestinians, like withdrawing from Bethlehem, while keeping his right-wing coalition partners in line by assuring them that "we only moved two jeeps from their positions."

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To: pie-faced-mutt who wrote (2118)8/28/2002 6:55:05 PM
From: Thomas M.
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During this period, Israel would build the fence separating it from the West Bank, thus erecting a physical barrier to Arab expansion.

Whew! Finally, the Palestinians are being stopped from their expansion. -g-

Tom

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To: Thomas M. who wrote (2119)8/28/2002 8:19:17 PM
From: pie-faced-mutt
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Imperialist Palestine, reclaiming their ancestral land with stones and small arms.

LOL

len

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To: Thomas M. who wrote (2117)8/28/2002 8:48:30 PM
From: Brumar89
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Perhaps you can elaborate on the wave of Jewish terrorism which swept through Germany - you know the Jewish "intifada".

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To: Brumar89 who wrote (2121)8/29/2002 12:48:39 AM
From: Thomas M.
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Unfortunately, they didn't get the chance to fight back, as the Palestinians have.

Tom

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To: Brumar89 who wrote (2121)8/29/2002 12:49:33 AM
From: Thomas M.
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This you?

Eight years after Hebron massacre, another Goldstein plots Florida remake

JERUSALEM (AFP) - They share the same profession, the
same nationality and even the same name. Before his arrest in
Florida, Robert Goldstein was about to follow in the footsteps of
Baruch Goldstein, who massacred 29 Muslims in a Hebron
mosque eight years ago.

Parallel pictures of the two Goldsteins were splashed across the daily Maariv's
centre-spread and most Israeli newspapers drew a parallel between the two Jewish
extremists in their Sunday editions.

Doctor Robert Goldstein, 37, was arrested by US security services Friday on
suspicion of planning to bomb mosques and Islamic centres, after a huge arsenal of
around 40 weapons and 30 explosive devices was found at his Florida home.

A typed list of approximately 50 Islamic places of worship in the Tampa and St.
Petersburg areas was also found, and the doctor was still being questioned Sunday.

On February 25, 1994, Baruch Goldstein sprayed automatic gunfire on worshippers
praying in a mosque in the Cave of the Patriarchs, a holy site in both Islam and
Judaism, killing 29 Muslims before being lynched.

An American who lived in a Jewish settlement in the heart of the southern West Bank
city of Hebron, Goldstein went on his suicidal shooting spree in a bid to avenge the
victims of Palestinians attacks.

However many more Israelis were to die in the following months during a wave of
revenge bombings by the Palestinian militant group Hamas.

The 1994 massacre was widely condemned in Israel, but a minority of extremist
Jewish settlers have since turned Baruch Goldstein into an icon of their struggle
against the Arabs.

His tomb became a pilgrimage destination for some far-right supporters, and a book
singing his praise and written by an extremist rabbi has been circulating on the black
market.

Baruch Goldstein's grave was symbolically dug at the entrance of the Kiryat Arba
settlement near Hebron, at the end of Meir Kahana street, named after the founder of
the anti-Arab Kach party, who was himself assassinated in New York.

Following the 1994 massacre, Kach was officially outlawed over charges of incitement
to racial hatred, but its militants have continued to be openly active, calling for
Palestinians to be expelled from the entire "land of Israel", including the West Bank,
and accusing successive Israeli governments of weakness or even treason.

Only after a group of Jewish extremists close to the Kach party were caught on April
30 preparing an anti-Palestinian attack near a school did the police carry out some
arrests.

A few weeks earlier, a bomb attack which had also targeted a Palestinian school in
east Jerusalem had been claimed by an underground extreme-right group.

Bloodshed was averted when two other bombs were defused on the same site, while a
fourth one was also discovered nearby.

Since the intifada erupted on September 28, at least 12 Palestinians have been killed
by Jewish extremists, B'Tselem said, adding that in most cases the killers were not
found.

Official Israeli reports have expressed concern at the impunity of some of the most
militant settlers, especially those in Hebron.

arabia.com

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