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To: Thomas M. who wrote (2977)8/29/2001 8:27:27 PM
From: goldsnow
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"For the man whose knowledge is not in order, the more he has of it, the greater will be his confusion." - Herbert Spencer (1820-1923)
FOR DECADES, THE UNITED NATIONS, A SUCCESSION OF EUROPEAN BODIES, THE ARAB LEAGUE, NON-ALIGNED MOVEMENT AND ORGANISATION OF AFRICAN UNITY HAVE CHURNED OUT THE TIRED MAXIM THAT THE PALESTINIAN QUESTION IS CENTRAL TO PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. LET'S HELP SLAUGHTER THAT HOLY COW.
ALTHOUGH Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait in 1990 and the subsequent Gulf War went a long way towards destroying the myth of Palestinian centrality to the Mideast conflict, some have sought to blame even THAT intra-Arab conflict on Israel.

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To: goldsnow who wrote (2980)8/30/2001 1:05:33 AM
From: Thomas M.
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That's quite a website. On first glance, I notice they state authoritatively that the 1967 war was started by Arabs. Next!

Tom

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To: goldsnow who wrote (2982)8/30/2001 1:12:35 AM
From: Thomas M.
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Well, that is certainly true. Oil has been a major source of conflict.

Tom

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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (2971)8/30/2001 4:19:41 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Re: Do you seriously see no difference between sending 10 year-old rock throwers to the front lines to become shahids and sending 19 year-old soldiers on patrol duty?

Oh sure, I can see the difference: footages of the formers are broadcast round-the-clock by Western networks whereas the fanaticism of the latters is cleverly, smoothly removed from news coverages on Israel's teenage troops... To quibble over 12-year-olds vs 20-somethings is futile indeed. It's clear that the Jewish population and the Palestinians don't have the same demographics and I bet you that were the average age of Israelis to be as low as Palestinians's, the IDF would likely resemble Napoleon's army (whose staff was made up of 25-year-old generals...)

Gus.

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To: Thomas M. who wrote (2965)8/30/2001 4:36:14 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Re: "In Israel, serving in certain army units is your ticket to good positions in civilian life," said Naomi Chazan, a left-wing member of the Knesset,...

What's even more interesting in the above snippet is that it exposes the stratocratic nature of Israel: indeed, there's no civil society proper in Israel. Israeli corporations are merely an outlet for military retirees, offering them various executive jobs and busywork depending on their past career in the IDF.

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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (2981)8/30/2001 5:11:36 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Re: The poor Palestinians have had their noses pressed to the glass of Israeli democracy for 30 years, and they never got any.

If the Haaretz article in my post #2963 is any indication, even genuine Jews from around the world don't want to share in your "Israeli showpiece of democracy"... How come?? But what does your so-called Zionist democracy amount to, in the first place? Israel's a democracy because:

>of its compulsory 3-year military service, that is, basically, the opportunity to go on an Arab-bashing spree in Palestinian territories on a regular basis;

>of its admittedly rigged politics since the Israeli leadership can't allow its Arab minority (20%) to play the swing voter in its election process... Just imagine: as in most democracies, the margin between left and right is usually a few percentage points, so we have 50% of Jews voting Labour and 50% of Jews voting Likud, and 20% of Arab Israelis voting.... guess who tips the scales?? Bottom line: 20% of Arabs weigh more than 50% of Jews! Anyway, even a "democratically elect" army veteran like Yitzahk Rabin can still be "dismissed" through the bullet box.

>of its kosher McDonald's

>of its lifelong welfare checks supplied by Uncle Sam...

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To: goldsnow who wrote (2968)8/30/2001 6:08:52 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Re: Gus, do you know if Schweitzer, has a daughter?

Don't know.... Mind you, Mr Louis Schweitzer is said to have converted to Protestantism... but a mixed marriage doesn't give you the shivers eh,... or does it?

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (2988)8/30/2001 9:33:20 AM
From: goldsnow
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.... Mind you, Mr Louis Schweitzer is said to have converted to Protestantism... but a mixed marriage doesn't give you the shivers eh,... or does it? >>>>

All the better....He is a Jew is he? So his daughter can be converted to the Goldsnownism, I even pay for the wedding! ,<<gg>

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (2988)8/30/2001 9:34:38 AM
From: Carolyn
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New Subject

What do you all think of Bush's naming John Danforth to be the special ambassador to the Sudan?

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To: Carolyn who wrote (2990)8/30/2001 10:16:56 AM
From: goldsnow
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That is simple, (GUS needs challenging questions)
1. He thinks about that nothing (nobody does, Sudan? who cares :(
2. Danforth is not a Jew, that is good :)

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