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To: hal jordan who wrote (12852)3/20/2002 12:56:24 AM
From: Thomas M.
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Got a link?

Tom

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To: hdl who wrote (12856)3/20/2002 12:57:17 AM
From: Thomas M.
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Why don't you care about the Kurds?

Tom

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To: epsteinbd who wrote (12843)3/20/2002 3:28:49 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Just a little niggle re: Besides that, you also know that Arafat need at least five deaths a day in order to stay a CNNBBC subject( the genocide gambit).

The Chechnyan war took an even heavier toll (hundreds of thousands) and yet didn't make it to CNN/BBC's primetime slot....

Gus

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To: Thomas M. who wrote (12862)3/20/2002 4:14:32 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Those Judeofascists can't help it....

Melchior: UN encourages anti-Semitism, terror
By Gil Hoffman


Deputy Foreign Minister Michael Melchior yesterday accused the UN Human Rights Commission in Geneva of politicization and distributing anti-Israel propaganda.

In a blistering speech to the commission, Melchior said the forum unfairly singles out Israel, thereby encouraging both terrorism and anti-Semitism.

"Anti-Semitism is the oldest and most dangerous hatred, and in this generation, it continues in international conferences under the auspices of the UN, delegitimizing an entire nation," Melchior said.

The speech will be printed in full in Friday's Post.

jpost.com

What next? I bet you they'll take on Kofi Annan himself... and call him a Nazi... ROFL! Ooops, sorry! Curse the name-calling!

Gus

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To: blind alley racer who wrote (12842)3/20/2002 4:42:03 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Len, those crazy Judeofascists don't have a clue... They think Cheney's main job was to rally the Arab leaders for another full-scale war against Iraq --LOL! I'd rather say that higher on his agenda was the Saudi "recognition-for-land" initiative.

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 Nisan 7, 5762

Again, it's back in Arafat's hands

U.S. Vice President Richard Cheney left Israel yesterday after a brief visit. Retired general Anthony Zinni remained behind and continues shuttling between Israelis and Palestinians. The two missions, Cheney's and Zinni's, are separate but linked, aimed at isolating the battlefield against Saddam Hussein. Cheney was sent to remove the mines in the Arab capitals, while Zinni is seeking to subdue the Israeli-Palestinian front.

Even without knowing the hidden secrets of the American plan for Saddam, it is clear that it is the most important thing for them, and everything else is incidental. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon recognized that fact when he relaxed his previous positions on how to implement the plan worked out by CIA Director George Tenet for a cease-fire with the Palestinians. In effect, Sharon relinquished his previous preconditions for implementing the Tenet plan and focused on his demand for its full implementation of Tenet before the transition to the Mitchell plan, which has political elements.
[...]

haaretz.co.il

Besides, Israeli officials keep peddling the war against Iraq as a "strategic interest of Israel" (see my previous post re: Sharon & Fuad in the US)... well, fine with me but... if such a war were that vital for Israel, why wouldn't Israel wage it itself?? After all, Israel boasts the strongest military (and its nukes to boot) in the area, doesn't it?? I mean, what's a sovereign country that keeps bragging all the time about its topflight military and whatnot and then hedges itself behind the American might?? I tell you --it's a troublemaker.

Gus

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To: Ish who wrote (12849)3/20/2002 6:41:48 AM
From: epsteinbd
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"... the backing of the Russian, the US has a mandate to reorder the world."

Well, Ish, shouldn't they ?

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To: hdl who wrote (12855)3/20/2002 7:20:47 AM
From: epsteinbd
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I do not think that "the Palestinians will get less land for each Jew they killed.", as now, coupled with the Saudi's initiative, one that will have the backing of most all Arab states, the Israeli position will have to adjust in therm of the square mileage that will be returned/given, as Sharon will not have free hands, at all.
As for the Saudis, it was a mastermove. I even can imagine that they waited for more than twenty years to do it, and, at the end of the road there might be the reward: a mosque on the plateform all call holy.

No problem, after all, if the Jews gave them their god somehow, (the book didn't sell though) then, the Jews have to be ready to provide the church, too.
So pretty soon, Saudis will be the UN of the symbolic plateform, and if anyone misbehave, they will shoot him or whatever, and CNN will be the only looser because no one will care any more.

So, as they may have a great win in the Arab world and a bigger one with the rest of us, as it will be their plan, hardly modified for some acres that won the peace ; we better remind them that we expect them not to stone to death this lady they just condemned because at most, she had a fruitefull relationship outside marriage.
Because that is all we can do.

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To: epsteinbd who wrote (12867)3/20/2002 9:14:17 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Re: ...we better remind them that we expect them not to stone to death this lady they just condemned because at most, she had a fruitefull relationship outside marriage.

Surviving extramarital affairs seems to be a tough challenge for Israeli women too....

Message 16701586

That article reported that about 30 Jewish women were "terminated" by their partners in Israel in 2001 --that's a lot considering Israel's Jewish population of about four million... But then, I guess you'll retort that the permanent state of war against the Palestinians doesn't help... and has turned otherwise pussywhipped (*) Israelis into trigger-happy machos, eh?

Gus

(*) "uxorious" if you prefer.

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (12868)3/20/2002 9:22:12 AM
From: William B. Kohn
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Please attempt to put things in perspective. I don't know of any countries where infidelity does not sometimes lead to loss of life. It's human nature, sad but true. I've suffered the pain and know how much it can hurt. While I didn't harm anyone, I sure as hell felt harmed. I don't condone violence in a situation like that, but I think it happens all to often. I also don't believe that women are the only suffers worldwide. In the Arab world they probably suffer more than men do, but in western societies I would believe the ratio of harm is somewhat more equal.

I cannot believe you find this a particular flaw within Israeli society, is Belgium so advanced (or backwards) that this never occurs there?

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To: William B. Kohn who wrote (12869)3/20/2002 9:38:37 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Re: I cannot believe you find this a particular flaw within Israeli society, is Belgium so advanced (or backwards) that this never occurs there?

Belgium like most other "developed" countries has its own network of relief outfits for women who've been beaten, abused and molested by their partners... Actually, that was not exactly the point. The point was the current opportunistic smear-campaign against Nigeria and the pending case of an adulterous woman who might be condemned to be stoned to death.... European media (I don't know of US ones) have hammered on that story for months now and, although I don't condone the Islamic shari'a, I'm not fooled by the media either. Their real purpose has more to do with branding a key US ally in Africa as a barbarous regime than with the plight of that hapless slut. After all, if it was just for the sake of succoring abused women, they could as well report the same scandals in Saudi Arabia, Salt Lake City (polygamous Mormons), Japan (and its fancy for schoolgirls), etc.

Gus

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