To: dougSF30 who wrote (219053) | 12/5/2006 3:49:04 PM | From: mas_ | | | I didn't really expect anything more than an announcement. Parts should start flooding us soon so when they are actually tested we can examine your theory that 65nm is broken in more detail ;-). Here's a WAG from me, they will overclock slighty more than 90nm parts, say 3.2-3.3 GHz. I also like the technical fact that SiGe is in the first stepping. |
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To: dougSF30 who wrote (219059) | 12/5/2006 3:49:16 PM | From: eracer | | | Re: OMG, if that is true, AMD is done like dinner.
On the other hand this would put AMD's simulated benchmarks in a somewhat more positive light if they were simulations at 2.5GHz instead of 2.9GHz. A 2.9GHz Barcelona barely outperforming a 2.67GHz Clovertown in the online transaction benchmark would look really poor, where a 2.5GHz Barcelona at least indicates a slight clock-for-clock performance edge over Clovertown/Kentsfield. |
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To: mas_ who wrote (219067) | 12/5/2006 3:51:36 PM | From: dougSF30 | | | Not sure how you are still posting here, but:
I think the fact that SiGe is included is a negative, because I would've expected improvement from adding it in the future. I was quite surprised to find that it was already in.
This together with the HKEPC Barcelona top clock of 2.5GHz says something is quite wrong, IMO. |
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To: jspeed who wrote (219049) | 12/5/2006 3:51:44 PM | From: smooth2o | | | re: Half baked...
It's not half baked. This "Seal of Approval" comes out ONE DAY after the 65nm announcement with
1. No apparent availability 2. Yielding maybe equal (or better) to 90nm 3. Late, very late 4. Same or less performance 5. WAYYY lower performance than the closest competitor
Name some reasons why you think it's not "paid for".
Smooth |
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To: FJB who wrote (219066) | 12/5/2006 3:52:27 PM | From: dougSF30 | | | Could I ask you to take content-free OT posts like this to the OT board, or PM me?
I am not 2X anything, as there is currently no "speed limit". |
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To: eracer who wrote (219068) | 12/5/2006 3:53:48 PM | From: dougSF30 | | | There is that, but given that those simulated benchmarks were cherry-picked, I imagine this does not bode well for other benchmarks, particularly integer stuff. Just one rumor site making the claim at this point, I guess. |
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To: dougSF30 who wrote (219064) | 12/5/2006 3:55:06 PM | From: jspeed | | | Who would you prefer AMD go to? Benchmarkers like Tom's HW and Anandtech? That's like saying a car company should take their car to a local garage for a recommendation instead of J.D. Power & Assoc. |
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To: jspeed who wrote (219073) | 12/5/2006 3:59:16 PM | From: dougSF30 | | | I would expect AMD to release a die photo to the media, and update their public docs available on their website to contain 65nm die size information, like they did for 90nm parts. I would expect them to provide samples to the usual review sites.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not believe their hired folks performed overclocking tests. Certainly they have not made them public, to my knowledge. |
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To: dougSF30 who wrote (219074) | 12/5/2006 4:05:10 PM | From: FJB | | | I would expect them to provide samples to the usual review sites.
Have you lost it? This is the exact same chip they have been shipping for almost two years, except with different power characteristics. |
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