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To: romus who wrote (219057)12/5/2006 3:40:26 PM
From: dougSF30
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OMG, if that is true, AMD is done like dinner.

Expectations were for 2.7-2.9GHz for top (120W) bins of Barcelona. 2.4-2.5GHz ain't gonna cut it.

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To: dougSF30 who wrote (219034)12/5/2006 3:42:39 PM
From: rzborusa
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Doug, As an Intel long wouldn't you be happy if it had taken AMD longer to bring up 65nm? Don't answer yet.

I will vote against the 20 speedlimit out of a sense of fairness to you. It seems a word count would be more appropriate but way too difficult. I don't begrudge you, and am glad you keep your posts short and to the point, hence numerous.

As I understand it, the moderator is not compelled to act.

Many including you have been quick to request moderation. It is good to disagree. We get the thread we deserve.

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To: dougSF30 who wrote (219032)12/5/2006 3:43:02 PM
From: smooth2o
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You have to wait for 20 posts :)

Smooth

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To: dougSF30 who wrote (219051)12/5/2006 3:43:22 PM
From: jspeed
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Wow, how stubborn.

They've had the product in their hands and have put it through a thorough analysis. This is what they do and they are well known for it.

I guess I was a little too subtle for you earlier so let me say it directly. AMD did this to head off rumor and heresay criticism such as you are spinning out here.

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To: rzborusa who wrote (219060)12/5/2006 3:44:07 PM
From: dougSF30
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rzb, there is no speedlimit in effect yet...

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To: jspeed who wrote (219062)12/5/2006 3:46:52 PM
From: dougSF30
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That makes no sense. There are plenty of independent experts who could offer analysis given a die photo, die size information, and samples to attempt to measure power and o/c-ability. Why not provide it like they have in the past?

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To: smooth2o who wrote (219061)12/5/2006 3:47:24 PM
From: Rink
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Ali, TGP, Your discussion turned into pure OT. So please discontinue the discussion.

Smooth, 20 posts OT before I can call to stop?! You're crazy ;).

Regards,

Rink

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To: dougSF30 who wrote (219063)12/5/2006 3:48:09 PM
From: FJB
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Good thing too. You are 2X the speed limit... That's a felony in some states.

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To: dougSF30 who wrote (219053)12/5/2006 3:49:04 PM
From: mas_
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I didn't really expect anything more than an announcement. Parts should start flooding us soon so when they are actually tested we can examine your theory that 65nm is broken in more detail ;-). Here's a WAG from me, they will overclock slighty more than 90nm parts, say 3.2-3.3 GHz. I also like the technical fact that SiGe is in the first stepping.

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To: dougSF30 who wrote (219059)12/5/2006 3:49:16 PM
From: eracer
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Re: OMG, if that is true, AMD is done like dinner.

On the other hand this would put AMD's simulated benchmarks in a somewhat more positive light if they were simulations at 2.5GHz instead of 2.9GHz. A 2.9GHz Barcelona barely outperforming a 2.67GHz Clovertown in the online transaction benchmark would look really poor, where a 2.5GHz Barcelona at least indicates a slight clock-for-clock performance edge over Clovertown/Kentsfield.

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