| To: dougSF30 who wrote (218616) | 12/2/2006 1:08:01 PM | | From: mas_ | | | | | Well it might have helped if the review sites were technically up to exploring the full capabilities of the architecture but only TR came close. Where were even the dual SLI benches ? Very poor. However as a platform it's also quite useful as it allows cheap high clocked dual socket Opteron systems. It will come into its own with K8L and when Nvidia sort out quad-SLI and as applications become more multithreaded. It will then be a performance powerhouse. |
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| To: g_w_north who wrote (218604) | 12/2/2006 1:10:43 PM | | From: Plissken | | | | They don't offer 1080 LCD panels yet, their plasmas are behind the curve anyway, that leaves only SXRD which they use in rear and front projection, the latter being rather decent in quality, but at price points of $5k, $10k and $20k, not exactly gamers' fare.
As for the Wii, I'm not sure it is such a big improvement over the gamecube. The graphics are not really great and the controllers are a bit too laggy, imho. Ugly as it may be, if I had to get one of the new consoles it would be most likely the XBox 360. Since I don't have to, I bought a PS2 this week. |
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| To: dougSF30 who wrote (218619) | 12/2/2006 1:14:59 PM | | From: mas_ | | | | Not that it can just be used in 4S but that it is the more potent there, the marketing and performance spearhead of the new core. It will make the most waves and mindshare there and AMD are right to make its first impressions there as it shows direct-connect at its strengths.
Technical matters are often outside of management's control, see Intel's problems with Prescott and Itanium, and for you to ignore this would not be wise to your pocket. For instance it does imply that AMD's 45nm transition will be a lot more smoother but of course you will be looking at the rear view mirror at the time ;-). |
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| To: bobs10 who wrote (218589) | 12/2/2006 1:15:43 PM | | From: NicoV | | | | For the HTPC to be able to compete with set top boxes you really need to have TV being sent over the Internet and that means bandwidth, which right now means fiber to the curb
My cable provider is upgrading it's network to be capable of 200 mb/s everywhere by the end 2008, using EuroDocsis 3.0 cablemodems. No fiber to the curb, but it's close (I think less than 100 homes are connencted to the same hub via coax, and those hubs are connected via fiber to the backbone). 200 mb/s is more than enough for a 25 mb/s HD video-on-demand channel.
The big competitor of my cable provider is the telephone company, and they are providing TV over IP via ADSL. |
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| To: mas_ who wrote (218623) | 12/2/2006 1:25:06 PM | | From: dougSF30 | | | | Not that it can just be used in 4s but that it is the more potent there, the marketing and performance spearhead of the new core. It will make the most waves and mindshare there and AMD are right to make its first impressions there as it shows direct-connect at its strengths.
No, they are launching it there because of the low, low volumes, and high asps. It will not make the most waves and mindshare in that market, simply because other markets are SO much larger, and Intel is currently ahead in the other markets, while AMD currently still *has* a lead already in the 4S market.
Technical matters are often outside of management's control, see Intel's problems with Prescott and Itanium, and for you to ignore this would not be wise to your pocket.
Like the captain of a ship, management is ultimately responsible for everything that happens under their watch. It's not like wall street says, "oh, it wasn't their fault-- just bad luck, so keep the stock price up!"
For instance it does imply that AMD's 45nm transition will be a lot more smoother[sic]
What? What implies AMD will have a smooth 45nm transition? BTW, have you noticed that AMD constantly claims they will close the process lag gap with Intel with each new generation, but once you get within a year or so, they slip, and slip some more, until the gap actually grows? |
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| To: mas_ who wrote (218620) | 12/2/2006 1:27:27 PM | | From: dougSF30 | | | | Where were even the dual SLI benches ?
Perhaps no one had a 2 kilowatt PS handy?
Presumably that doesn't actually work yet.
What a boondoggle.
As a "platform", it's been here forever. It's called a 2S workstation platform. |
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| To: mas_ who wrote (218608) | 12/2/2006 1:33:02 PM | | From: Rink | | | | Mas, You have not provided anywhere near a reasonable basis for accusations in this discussion thread (your 'call AMD liars' and 'imaginative speculation' are straws). You now show you don't want to listen. You and DougSF have accused each way too much without providing explicit arguments leading to a lot of insulting OT. Hence I'm now giving you your final warning on this topic: Any next time that I think you're insulting DougSF without hard explicit arguments in the same post I'll suspend you. I'm not giving DougSF a final warning because he listened.
Regards,
Rink
- 'call AMD liars' is not a reasonable argument here to insult DougSF:
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Point 4 here: Message 23063595
And 4 here: Message 23063667
- 'imaginative speculation' is not a reasonable argument for the insult to DougSF:
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- This particular discussion starts with this insult from you:
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- Yesterday's related request to stop insults without arguments:
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