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To: Andy Yamaguchi who wrote ()2/3/2000 9:30:00 AM
From: Bhag Karamchandani
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Andy: Is their product an upgrade/ enhancement to the existing 4- 16 ch. fib./op. infrastructure because I thought Lucent got hammered recently for not having the higher 64- 80 ch. capacity.

I am a novice as far as fiber optic goes and would very much appreciate your response as to why the APAT latest product announcement is a 'big deal' from an investment perspective. Thanks.

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To: Bhag Karamchandani who wrote (1)2/3/2000 11:03:00 AM
From: Andy Yamaguchi
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Bhag, I am trying to answer your question:

Currently, due to explosive internet usage, ISP all have big problem to meet data capacity problem. However, deploying new optical fiber line is very very expansive. So people invented DWDM technology. It can transmit multiple data channels in a fiber line. More channel means more data can be transferred. Since DWDM can use the existing fiber line so there is a great cost advantages.

APAT is shipping 50 Ghz DWDM filter. It is the most advanced DWDM device on the market. 50 Ghz means that the channel spacing is 50 Ghz which mean higher channel density. For optical fiber, there are only very small range is linear, only this linear range can be used for data transmit. Therefore, a smaller channel spacing means packing more channels in this linear range. What is the difference between 200 Ghz and 50 Ghz? a 50 Ghz device means that it can pack 4 times more of channels(data too) comparing to the 200 Ghz one. For example, if the bandwidth for the optical fiber is 3000 Ghz, then by using 50 Ghz DWDM device, one fiber can transmit 3000/50=60 channels of data but for 200 Ghz DWDM device, it can only transmits 3000/200=15 channels of data. Assume that the data capacity for each channel is the same then the 50 Ghz DWDM device can transmit 4 times more of data comparing to the 200 Ghz DWDM device for the same fiber line. Currently, 50 Ghz DWDM device could pack 64 channel into one fiber. It is selling very very hot and very few people can make it.

Hope it helps

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To: Bhag Karamchandani who wrote (1)2/3/2000 2:30:00 PM
From: AmericanVoter
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MINNEAPOLIS, Feb 2, 2000 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- APA Optics, Inc.
(Nasdaq: APAT) today introduced a new single-mode fiber dense
wavelength division multiplexing (DWDM) product that provides narrow
channel spacing, permitting greater utilization of a given wavelength
band. The Company reported that it is shipping the new
multiplexer/demultiplexer research unit to a major international
supplier of fiber optic networking systems. The product, featuring 50
gigahertz, or 0.4 nanometer, wavelength spacing, is currently available
in 8 and 16 channels.

"We are pleased to further broaden our complement of single-mode and
multi-mode components for the DWDM fiber optics industry," said Anil K.
Jain, president and chief executive officer of APA Optics. "I am
delighted to report that product performance equals that of our 100 GHz
single-mode product, with less than 5 decibels (dB) insertion loss and
more than 25 dB of adjacent channel isolation."

Jain said that this announcement, following the recent introduction of
a multi-mode DWDM product, emphasizes the fact that APA is one of a
very few companies supplying both single-mode and multi-mode MUX/DEMUX
components. Both single-mode and multi-mode are available with Add/Drop
capability. "We foresee strong futures for both of these technological
applications, given the differing needs they address," said Jain.

APA said that it is positioned to begin production of this new product
at once. "The new 50 GHz unit will be assembled using the same
production line as the 100 and 200 GHz single-mode and 200 GHz
multi-mode products," said Terry VanderWert, APA's business manager for
fiber optic products. "This means that we can offer timely delivery."

The Company's success in developing products with narrow wavelength
spacing while still maintaining high levels of product performance,
such as in low insertion loss, is attributed to the patented/patent
pending diffraction grating technology employed by APA. "This
technology is ideal for single-mode and multi-mode and well suited to
higher channel counts and narrow channel spacing," said VanderWert.

Forward-looking statements contained herein are made pursuant to the
safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act
of 1995. These statements are based upon the Company's current
expectations and judgments about future developments in the Company's
performance and may be affected by several factors, including, without
limitation, delays in or increased costs of production, delays in or
lower than anticipated sales of the Company's new products, and other
factors discussed from time to time in the Company's filings with the
Securities and Exchange Commission. Readers are cautioned not to place
undue reliance on forward-looking statements. The Company undertakes no
obligation to update such statements to reflect actual events.

APA Optics, Inc., based in Blaine, Minn., manufactures and markets
advanced products for the fiber optic communications, optoelectronics
and laser industries, including wavelength division multiplexing (WDM)
components, ultraviolet (UV) detectors, nitride epitaxial layers and
custom optics.

SOURCE APA Optics, Inc.
(C) 2000 PR Newswire. All rights reserved.
CONTACT: Roy Wallace of the Wallace Group, 651-452-9800, for APA Optics,
Inc., or Anil K. Jain of APA Optics, Inc., 612-784-4995

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To: Andy Yamaguchi who wrote ()2/3/2000 2:39:00 PM
From: AmericanVoter
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in the wires..."Saint Paul Pioneer Press, Minn., Twin Cities Stocks Column"

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Saint Paul Pioneer Press, Minn., Twin Cities Stocks Column


Jan. 30 (Saint Paul Pioneer Press/KRTBN)--APA OPTICS: The quarterly
earnings report released in November by APA Optics wasn't the kind that
usually ignites a stock: Quarterly revenue fell to $36,000 from
$246,000 a year ago; losses deepened to nearly $1 million from $660,000
a year earlier. But the news didn't stop investors from piling in.
Yahoo's message board lit up, too -- some 150 messages have been posted
since December.

In early November, APA's stock traded at about $6. In late December,
it spiked as high as $19.50. It closed Friday at $21.50.

What's happening? It's simple: APA is positioned in one of the hottest
sectors in the hot telecom equipment industry, fiber optics.

"It is the sweet spot on the sweet spot of telecom," said Bill
Grierson, senior research analyst at Kopp Investment Advisors who
focuses on telecom equipment.

Investors apparently like the potential of the company, which says
it's getting closer to a market release of one of its fiber-optic
products. Executives explained the larger losses as the result of the
inventory it has built up as customers evaluate its offerings. Stocks
in companies like JDS Uniphase Corp. and SDL Inc. have increased about
870 percent and 1,020 percent respectively in the past year. And JDS
used its high-priced stock to buy another hot player in the
fiber-optics field, E-Tek Dynamics, in a deal valued at $15 billion.
That was its fourth acquisition announced in 1999.

Observers speculate that the segment's froth prompted investors to
scour for similar companies, and they came up with APA along with a
handful of other small stocks.

APA makes a product that increases the amount of information that can
pass through a fiber-optic line. Instead of using only a single pulse
of light, APA's product breaks light into colors -- or frequencies --
and reassembles the messages later, multiplying the number of messages
that can be carried without laying new line.

That process, called wavelength division multiplexing, isn't new, but
it's become one of the hottest products in telecom as Baby Bells try to
satisfy the exploding demand to move voice and data. DWDM systems are
in such demand, in fact, that biggest players aren't able to make them
fast enough.

A complete DWDM system requires a number of components. What APA makes
is called a multiplexer/demultiplexer -- basically two boxes that
divide and reassemble the light. Anil Jain, APA's chairman and CEO,
says its products improve on what's now available because they're
smaller -- an important feature when telecom equipment manufacturers
are trying to pack more components on a system board.

APA also has a multiplexer/demultiplexer that Jain says is
revolutionary. The products now available only work on the more common
single-mode fiber. APA has devised a product that works on multimode
fiber. Multimode is a cheaper fiber and, potentially more important, it
can send data to a satellite.

Bell Labs demonstrated a "wireless fiber-optic" system last year; it
could be used to set up a complex telecom system quickly -- at the
Olympics, for example, or on a battlefield.

APA's multiplexer would make such a system carry even more
information. "We believe we are the show. We believe we are the game in
town," Jain said. The company is testing both multiplexers -- single
mode and multimode -- and hopes to start shipping in three to six
months, he said.

Meanwhile, APA is pushing forward on a completely different technology
called Gallium Nitride. After the compound is made, cut into wafers and
divided, it can serve as a sensor for UV radiation. Among other
commercial applications, APA uses Gallium Nitride to make sensors for
building furnaces. It may someday make cell phones smaller and more
efficient, Jain says.

APA is betting heavily on a consumer application for Gallium Nitride:
It's making a watch that lets its user know when he's been in the sun
too long. Dubbed the "Sun Watch," it will retail for $79.95 and be
marketed to sports enthusiasts, golfers, cruise-goers and folks in
sunny places. The company is talking with retailers, but it hasn't
reached any agreements with a major company.

Jain acknowledges that the company lacks the management expertise to
bring a consumer product to market. "Marketing is the challenge. No
doubt about it," he said.

In fact, bringing products to market -- consumer or otherwise -- is
relatively new to APA. That's because until a couple of years ago, APA
was primarily a company committed to research. For most of its 20-year
history, APA was one of the state's leaders in landing federal grants
intended to help commercialize new technological developments.

Jain said that landing research grants created a comfortable business.
Too comfortable. "Comfort was getting us nowhere. For real money and
real growth and growth in our investors' portfolios," the company had
to develop and make some products, said Jain.

Jain, a native of India who has a doctorate from the University of
Rochester's Institute of Optics, is optimistic that the company can
make the transition. He says the company can generate between $20
million and $35 million in the fiscal year ending in April 2001. That's
selling 250,000 watches for $10 million to $20 million and $12 million
to $15 million in DWDM products.

But making products move in the telecom equipment business can be
tough for a small independent company, according to David Reamer,
director of active components for ADC Telecommunications. Reamer should
know -- he's one of the founders of Spectracom, an optics-equipment
firm that he sold to ADC in 1998.

Any new entrant to the components business must first meet a set of
industry standards and then pass more rigorous testing by the big
telecom equipment makers like Nortel and Lucent. And getting access to
those kinds of players can be difficult.

"The buzzword in the industry is `channel access.' That's what ADC
brought to us at Spectacom," Reamer said. "When ADC approached us,
that's what they brought home: `Look, you guys are small, and telecoms
are difficult to sell to.' We agreed. We knew they would help."

And more and more, telecom equipment makers are looking for
"integrated solutions" -- a package of components that includes not
only mulitiplexers but other pieces as well, Reamer said. That's
prompting companies to become "super-suppliers," which is why a company
like JDS has been so active in making acquisitions.

If the company can get through these hurdles, the market for APA's
DWDM product is white hot, according to Reamer and others. According to
one forecast, the market for DWDM systems will go from $2.1 billion in
2001 in North America to $5.8 billion in 2006. The worldwide market in
2006 is predicted to hit $12.2 billion.

For his part, Jain says he's not averse to considering a buyout.
Walking around APA's offices in Blaine, he chats with scientists and
ticks off how much the company spent on various pieces of equipment --
$150,000 here, $200,000 there. A soft-spoken man, he grows animated
when he talks about that scenario:

"Ten years ago, I would have said, `Hell no, I built this with my
nails. I know every piece of equipment here.' All that," he says.
"That's not my focus now. Now I want to promote this technology and to
promote the interests of our shareholders."

DAMARK: Damark unveiled a broad restructuring last Wednesday, ending
its catalog business and creating new divisions for its club membership
business and a new e-commerce delivery service. The move paves the way
for a spin-off that would create two companies and two stocks, Damark's
founder Mark Cohn said in an interview Thursday.

"I think it's clear there are two management teams and two competitive
sets. There are no synergies. There may be some services our e-service
group can provide for a fee to our membership division. But the
understanding is that these are two completely different businesses,"
Cohn said.

The move would make it easier for Wall Street analysts to value the
parts that make up Damark. Investors have been bidding the stock up
over the past months -- it's up 224 percent since early December -- on
the premise that its e-commerce potential and growing membership
businesses were being masked by its unprofitable catalog business.

As of Friday, Damark had a market capitalization of $171 million. Cohn
says dividing the company would likely create much more value; he says
analysts say each division could be worth roughly $250 million.

Damark's club membership business -- which offers discounts and
information to people who pay an annual fee -- will be renamed Insyte.
It will closely resemble the largest publicly traded company solely in
this business, MemberWorks. MemberWorks had 5.5 million members as of
Sept. 30 and third-quarter revenues of $71.6 million.

Insyte will be headed by George Richards, now Damark's president and
chief operating officer. The division grew smartly in 1999, with
revenue up 55 percent from 1998, to $138.2 million. Its members, who
pay an average yearly fee of $66, now number 2.2 million.

But Damark's membership business also has attracted the scrutiny of
the Minnesota Attorney General's office, which has led a campaign
targeting companies that use individuals' financial information to sell
products. Prentiss Cox, an assistant attorney general, said the state
was concerned about complaints that Damark charged customers for
memberships without authorization, among other things.

Cohn said they produced tapes verifying the transactions. But Damark
and the state reached an agreement that governs some of the language
their telemarketers will use, an agreement Cohn lauded. The state is in
litigation with MemberWorks over similar allegations, Cox said.

The e-commerce fulfillment business, to be headed by Cohn and renamed
ClickShip Direct, will resemble companies like PFS Web, a Plano,
Texas-based company that went public in a hot IPO in December, and
Fingerhut Business Services, a major player in the field.

Fulfillment companies handle backroom tasks for online retailers, from
taking and processing orders to shipping to handling returns. That's
become a hot sector after e-tailers learned this holiday season that
getting orders filled can be every bit as challenging as getting
shoppers to come to their Web sites.

Theresa Matacia, a vice president of equity research in Dain Rauscher
Wessels' San Francisco office, says direct marketers who get into the
field may lack some of the technical skills a PFS Web brings. Matacia
follows PFS Web. Direct marketers, she says, "are not end-to-end."

Cohn says ClickDirect will offer the full array of services, from Web
hosting to purchase authorization to inventory management to handling
returns. Like PFS, it will offer retailers customized reports on
inventory levels and customer stats. But he acknowledges that
ClickDirect initially will be weaker in the "upstream" functions like
Web hosting and online order processing.

If clients say they're looking for more expertise in these areas, "we
will make that investment, whether we build or buy." In the meantime,
Cohn says, ClickDirect's flexibility -- it can work with a firm that
already has an online order processor, for example -- will be a key
selling feature. Because of the company's background, "we've created a
system were our technologies can plug in" to what the client needs.

By Kevin Maler

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To: Andy Yamaguchi who wrote (2)2/3/2000 4:59:00 PM
From: Bhag Karamchandani
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Andy : Thanks for your prompt and lucid reply. Much appreciated.

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To: Bhag Karamchandani who wrote (5)2/4/2000 1:00:00 AM
From: Sir Auric Goldfinger
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But do they have customers?

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To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (6)2/6/2000 10:33:00 PM
From: Bhag Karamchandani
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I read that Avanex has offered a similar product to one of the telecoms- but that APAT may have at least a one year advantage as far as production volume delivery goes. A serious competitive advantage. PERHAPS SOME ONE CAN EXPAND ON THIS.

I like the idea of the CEO publicly saying he is not averse to the company being acquired. This technology begs consolidation- from the perspective of its major customers.

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To: Bhag Karamchandani who wrote (7)2/7/2000 1:17:00 AM
From: Andy Yamaguchi
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AVNX uses thin film filter + interleaved technology. APAT uses fiber grating method. According to some of experts (last optic conf.), fiber grating is a better way and can push the technology to much higher density( 25ghz or higher). However , thin film filter seems has limitation. If APAT can do what they said, this company would be acquired by JDSU or others very soon. The stock shall be valued at least 100 a share.


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To: Andy Yamaguchi who wrote (8)2/7/2000 12:05:00 PM
From: Rhino Ray
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I am shocked at how little activity is on this board today with the stock rocketing. I bought some on friday and today. The 50Ghz DWDM is huge news. The only thing is that even the company said that it does not market well since they used to be strictly an R&D company. This involves patented technology from what I understand. They have a superior product but are lacking sales and marketing. This can either be purchased by bringing someone who did this for another company within the industry that has connections, or someone (JDSU) will buy them out. They better start thinking about it fast because this thing is going to sky rocket very quickly. The main thing is having the superior technology that is patent protected. The rest will come.


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To: Rhino Ray who wrote (9)2/7/2000 1:24:00 PM
From: CJ
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Hi Ray, I agree with you about the Company and the superiority of the product. Many Companies that build a better "widget" do not succeed because of lack of a good sales and marketing plan, and lack of sufficient capital to market the product. IMO, the 50 Ghz DWDM is so big and important that it will not be stuck on a shelf somewhere; but, assuming there is not immediate major Co. competition, one of the two options you suggested - create a sales/marketing force, or sell-out to a major - seems highly likely.

Congrats. on your buys Friday and today (I hope early!). Resistence @ 64 works real well for me..... for now! :)

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