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   PastimesDISCUSSION OF DOCTRINE of CHRISTIAN CHURCHES


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From: Stan12/21/2010 5:07:42 PM
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One thing I have found, to my surprise, is that if you read the very early fathers/elders of the church, the doctrine of the pre-tribulation rapture is totally absent from their writings. Yet, I had accepted its strong probability for a long time. It isn't that those early writers ignored the subject of the resurrection and end times. In fact, it was a common topic in their works. It has to set you thinking. How in the world would they not know of the pretrib rapture/resurrection if that is what the apostles taught? I simply cannot imagine that's possible. One is forced to conclude the doctrine is an innovation.

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To: Stan who wrote (433)12/21/2010 10:18:36 PM
From: Sidney Reilly
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Jesus gives us an explanation of Daniel's 70th week in Matt. 24:1-31 and Jesus definitely says He gathers the elect AFTER the great tribulation. This is virtually ignored by the "pretrib" church today.

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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (434)12/21/2010 10:38:10 PM
From: Stan
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Yes, and Martha, in responding to Jesus' statement, your brother shall rise again, says, yes, I know he will rise on the last day. Somehow, the last day got stretched into at least a 7 year period in pre-trib logic.

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To: Stan who wrote (435)12/22/2010 12:31:31 PM
From: Sidney Reilly
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Right, the pretribbers stretch the time of the great tribulation to be the entire 7 years of the 70th week. But according to Jesus the GT doesn't start until the abomination of desolation arrives (faking the second coming of Jesus) and sits in the new Temple the Jews are going to build and declares himself to be God. And Daniel says that happens in the middle of the 70th week, not the beginning, so the GT can only be 3 1/2 years long.

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From: long-gone2/11/2011 4:05:31 PM
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Why if the conservative believes in abortion being wrong he wants to have it outlawed and demands it by by protesting and or appealing to others outside a large medical tower which houses over 200 (on 12 floors) medical speciality offices without a single G.P. and only one office of an OB/ GYN?

I really suspect the wife's cardiologist performs about as many abortions as the oncology office on floor one...

I agree with not a thing they say but fully support their right to say it, just wish they weren't taking several rare and valuable parking spaces to speak out..... Then speaking out to some who have more than enough worries piled upon them.

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From: Stan3/26/2011 6:16:11 PM
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Satire exposing modern day sensibilities in many churches about God and spiritual issues:

If Paul’s Epistle to the Galatians was Published in Christianity Today

Posted in: Featured Articles

LETTERS TO THE EDITOR

Dear Christianity Today:

In response to Paul D. Apostle’s article about the Galatian church in your January issue, I have to say how appalled I am by the unchristian tone of this hit piece. Why the negativity? Has he been to the Galatian church recently? I happen to know some of the people at that church, and they are the most loving, caring people I’ve ever met.

Phyllis Snodgrass; Ann Arbor, MI

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Dear Editor:

How arrogant of Mr. Apostle to think he has the right to judge these people and label them accursed. Isn’t that God’s job? Regardless of this circumcision issue, these Galatians believe in Jesus just as much as he does, and it is very Pharisaical to condemn them just because they differ on such a secondary issue. Personally, I don’t want a sharp instrument anywhere near my zipper, but that doesn’t give me the right to judge how someone else follows Christ. Can’t we just focus on our common commitment to Christ and furthering His kingdom, instead of tearing down fellow believers over petty doctrinal matters?

Ed Bilgeway; Tonganoxie, KS

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others here:

sacredsandwich.com

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From: long-gone5/19/2011 11:39:26 PM
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Breaking News.

Stop the Presses!

This just in: World to end Saturday May 21 2011! Actually, to be more accurate, the world will only end through the process of Judgment Day for non-believers Saturday and, if correct, the followers of the Word as preached by Gunther Von Harringa will remain in heaven on earth for the next 10000 years with Jesus.

It remains unreported if it is only his followers or all believers, which will be saved. It also unknown if there will or will not be beer in Heaven on earth and if there will be a Republic or State of Texas in the newly constituted heavenly world government.

See Ya’ll Sunday at services.

Richard and family.

Ps – Yes, I was copied on the email.

More “information” at : wecanknow.com

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To: long-gone who wrote (439)5/20/2011 7:00:22 PM
From: Stan
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This goodbye letter has an ominous tone, like he may off himself.

money.cnn.com

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To: long-gone who wrote (439)5/20/2011 7:00:26 PM
From: Stan
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His goodbye letter has an ominous tone, like he may off himself.

money.cnn.com

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To: Stan who wrote (441)5/21/2011 12:01:52 PM
From: long-gone
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I detest the very concept of suicide and believe most or even perhaps all are mentally ill.

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