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To: Ed Huang who wrote (75)12/28/2001 6:19:38 PM
From: daffodil
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Hi, Ed.

I believe that the "Bach/Gounod" Ave Maria (which I much prefer to the more-familiar Malotte) is simply Gounod's adaptation of arpeggios from Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier to the text.

I don't know whether Gounod used the Bach harmonies without editing, or whether he had to edit the harmonies a bit to get the text to fit. I'd have to listen to Clavier or compare the pieces side by side to figure it out.

The result is certainly sublime.

BTW, as part of a recent furniture shuffling and neatening process, I decided to ditch my 20-year-old stereo system. It didn't quite fit where I needed it to fit, it would have been hard to access, therefore rarely used, and I have always hated the jumble of cords.

I'll miss having the turntable on the odd chance I get a yen to listen to a '50's musical, but I haven't even used it in 10 years.

My plan is to buy a Bose Wave Radio/CD ($500). Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

Hope you have a Happy New Year!


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To: daffodil who wrote (76)12/28/2001 8:32:44 PM
From: Ed Huang
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Hi daffodil,

Thanks a lot for the info about Ave Maria. The
question has been in my mind for quite a number
of years. This is a very beautiful piece of music.
To find out the original writer is highly desirable
to me. I'll follow up and listen to Bach's
original works.

Nice to hear you're looking for a new Hi Fi system.
Unfortunately, I'm no expert in this. When I bought
my hi fi, I just went to the stores and listened to
the sound of several different systems to decide
which one I like best, then I bought it. Yamaha perhaps
is one of the brand names you may test on when you
shop around. I learn from a couple of sources that
Yamaha sound system is good.

Good luck searching...

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To: Ed Huang who wrote (77)9/4/2006 9:32:36 PM
From: Tom Clarke
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Previously unknown Bach work discovered

By STEPHEN GRAHAM, Associated Press Writer
Thu Aug 31, 8:32 AM ET

A previously unknown work by Johann Sebastian Bach has turned up in a crate of 18th-century birthday cards removed from a German library shortly before it was devastated by fire last year, researchers said Wednesday.

Experts say the work for soprano and string or keyboard accompaniment, composed for a German duke's birthday, is the first new music from the renowned composer to surface in 30 years.

Researcher Michael Maul from the Bach Archiv foundation found the composition, dated October 1713, in May in the eastern city of Weimar. The Leipzig-based foundation said there was no doubt about the authenticity of the handwritten, two-page score.

"It is no major composition but an occasional work in the form of an exquisite and highly refined strophic aria, Bach's only contribution to a musical genre popular in late 17th-century Germany," said Christoph Wolff, the foundation's director and a professor at Harvard University.

Wolff said the work, written when Bach was 28, was among documents taken from the Duchess Anna Amalia library in Weimar for restoration before September's devastating fire.

"Otherwise the work would have been consumed by the flames and we would never have known of its existence," Wolff said.

Maul, who has been combing church and government archives in eastern Germany since 2002 for clues about Bach's life and work, said he was stunned to discover the work in the last of five crates of documents which had been in a room completely gutted by the fire.

He said the two pages were among several hundreds of poems and greetings written by officials and clerics to honor the 52nd birthday of the duke of Saxony-Weimar, who Bach served as a court organist.

"If I hadn't decided to go through them systematically, I would never have thought to look there," Maul said.

Maul said it was the first Bach work to come to light since 1975, when a copy of the "Goldberg Variations" in a private collection was found to contain extra canons for piano in the composer's own handwriting.

The last previously unknown vocal work by Bach to surface was in 1935, when the single-movement cantata fragment "Bekennen will ich seinen Namen" was discovered, the foundation said.

Bach composed the work for a solo soprano, to be accompanied by strings or a harpsichord, to mark the 52nd birthday of Duke Wilhelm Ernst of Saxony-Weimar, whom Bach then served as court organist, the foundation said.

The soprano was to sing a 12-stanza poem beginning with the duke's motto "Everything with God and nothing without him" written by the theologian Johann Anton Mylius.

The work was Bach's only known strophic aria, in which several stanzas are set to the same music, and the precise date made it valuable to researchers studying the development of the German composer's style, the foundation said.

It was not clear if it was played at the time, but the foundation said English conductor Sir John Eliot Gardiner is preparing to record it.

Gardiner last month received a medal in recognition of his performance of Bach music from the Saxony city of Leipzig, where Bach was cantor of St. Thomas Church for 27 years.

Maul said there were hopes the aria would be performed in Leipzig or Weimar to mark the first anniversary of the fire from which it had such a narrow escape.

The blaze destroyed about 50,000 historic books and damaged another 62,000. Restoration costs are estimated at between $61-$73 million.

The 16th-century rococo palace that houses the library reopened in February.

Germany's Baerenreiter publishing house plans to publish the composition in the fall.

Maul said the foundation would exhibit the score once copyright issued have been cleared up.


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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (78)9/5/2006 7:16:53 PM
From: daffodil
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Thanks for posting this, Tom! It's exciting news, and it's even more exciting to know that someone on Silicon Investor thought it was exciting enough to post on what must be a fairly secret thread!

Thanks again,


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To: daffodil who wrote (79)9/7/2006 7:39:32 AM
From: Tom Clarke
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May not be a major work, but it's a fairly significant find. :)

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To: daffodil who wrote (79)9/13/2006 10:20:32 AM
From: Tom Clarke
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A madrigal by the least of the Bach boys, PDQ.

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To: daffodil who wrote (79)4/29/2010 6:05:01 AM
From: Tom Clarke
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PDQ Bach's long neglected half-act opera, The Stoned Guest

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From: Chess Girl8/6/2010 8:31:11 PM
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I play the violin.

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To: Chess Girl who wrote (83)8/7/2010 8:58:03 AM
From: Tom Clarke
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Do you also play the fiddle? :)

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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (84)8/7/2010 1:34:15 PM
From: Chess Girl
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No, I don't.

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