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To: Road Walker who wrote (2030)9/30/2008 7:31:06 PM
From: Cogito
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John -

This is very cool.

It makes me want to build my own custom TiVo box, using some kind of mini chassis that is very quiet.

I think a terabyte will probably do for storage. Maybe 1.5.

Or, on the other hand, I can just wait for the DirecTiVo HD.

Yes. That's probably what I'll do.

- Allen

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From: Road Walker10/30/2008 2:10:32 PM
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Netflix, TiVo team up after 4-year courtship (AP)
Posted on Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:41AM EDT

SAN FRANCISCO - Home entertainment trendsetters Netflix Inc. and TiVo Inc. are finally joining forces to deliver more movies and old TV episodes to their mutual subscribers, consummating a relationship that was supposed to come together four years ago.

Under the partnership announced Thursday, the latest generation of TiVo's digital video recorders will be able to beam selections from 12,000 movies and TV shows offered through Netflix's streaming service, which must be piped over high-speed Internet connections. TiVo's DVRs will start catering to Netflix subscribers in early December.

The collaboration fulfills a promise made in 2004 when DVR pioneer TiVo and online DVD rental trailblazer Netflix set out to develop a system for delivering video directly over the Internet. But they got sidetracked after Netflix couldn't work out licensing deals with movie and TV studios.

By the time Netflix cleared the licensing hurdle and launched its Internet streaming service 21 months ago, the two companies had decided to pursue other partners.

But a reconciliation was inevitable, according to the leaders of Netflix and TiVo, whose Silicon Valley headquarters are about 18 miles apart.

"It's just a natural pairing and we are thrilled to finally be working with them," said Reed Hastings, Netflix's chief executive officer.

"I don't think there is any question we have gotten more frequently than, `What about TiVo and Netflix working together?'" said TiVo CEO Tom Rogers.

Coming off the first back-to-back quarterly profits in its 11-year history, TiVo is betting its ties to Netflix and other content providers like Inc. and Google Inc.'s YouTube will help distinguish its $299 DVRs from the generic recorders peddled by cable TV providers.

Alviso-based TiVo ended July with 3.6 million subscribers and Los Gatos-based Netflix ended with 8.7 million subscribers. The streaming service is available at no extra charge to any Netflix subscriber paying at least $8.99 per month for DVD rentals — a prerequisite that most customers meet.

TiVo will join other companies that sell devices that make it easier for Netflix's streaming service to be shown on a TV set instead of a computer.

Since Silicon Valley startup Roku Inc. introduced a $100 player tailored for Netflix's streaming service five months ago, Microsoft Corp. has agreed to tweak its video game console, the Xbox 360, so it can draw from Netflix's Internet library beginning next month. And both LG Electronics and Samsung Electronics are selling Blu-ray DVD players compatible with Netflix's streaming service.

Netflix eventually hopes to have its streaming service on dozens of devices, including TVs with built-in wireless connections to the Internet.

The growing selection of streaming devices could help boost Netflix's profits by causing subscribers to request fewer DVDs. Each DVD rental makes a round trip through the postal service that costs Netflix 84 cents, so fewer requests will lower expenses — just as management is striving to save money to offset slowing revenue growth.

Netflix still has to pay movie and TV studios licensing fees for the streaming rights, but that doesn't cost as much as mailing DVDs, said Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter.

"Netflix has really stumbled upon something that's pretty clever," Pachter said. "It's kind of a win for everyone because the customer gets the instant gratification of watching a movie over the Internet, studios get more licensing fees and Netflix saves money."

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From: TimF12/12/2008 9:21:37 PM
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WeaKnees Debuts TiVo and DVR Backup Systems

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To: TimF who wrote (2038)12/29/2008 9:41:54 PM
From: jlib
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Users have been using external RAIDs with the High Definition TiVos for two years already so their claim of debuting new technology is a bit far-fetched. Not to mention the absurd $549 price for 1TB capacity. You can get the exact same thing with out the logo at places like Newegg and similar retailers for $235. You can even use them with the original S3 if you are willing to widen one of the ventilation slots for the cable.

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To: jlib who wrote (2039)12/30/2008 10:47:20 AM
From: TimF
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The $235 drive from New Egg wouldn't be set up for Tivo. Still your right that $549 is an inflated price.

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To: jlib who wrote (2039)12/30/2008 1:10:24 PM
From: Dan3
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Re: Users have been using external RAIDs with the High Definition TiVos for two years

There's a little more to this device than a simple external drive. They've removed the internal drive, and made the system external only (not that big a deal, really), but do keep in mind that there are 2 1TB drives in that enclosure, together with RAID 1 controller, power supply, and fan - probably about $275 worth of parts.

I've had a 750gb external on my series 3 for about a year and a half, and heard some clicking from a drive once, a few weeks ago. Having a replicated system would be nice. As it is, I'll probably have to replace both the internal and external drives, and be off line while I copy everything over. (I'll probably take the opportunity to increase the internal drive to 1tb or 1.5tb).

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To: Dan3 who wrote (2041)12/31/2008 6:29:11 PM
From: jlib
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Yes, the idea is good. I also agree with your dollar value of the upgrade. Compare that to their gouge.

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From: JakeStraw3/25/2009 10:43:45 AM
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Blockbuster OnDemand coming to TiVo DVRs

Blockbuster's video-on-demand service will be available on most standalone TiVo DVRs in the second half of 2009.

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From: TimF4/30/2009 4:30:41 PM
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Ten years of TiVo: how far we haven't come
by Nilay Patel, posted Apr 28th 2009 at 2:30PM

TiVo's Jim Denney responds to Engadget!

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From: Glenn Petersen6/3/2009 1:22:30 AM
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A big win for TiVo:

Court Awards TiVo $190 Million in EchoStar Patent Case

Published: June 2, 2009
Filed at 6:42 p.m. ET

LOS ANGELES, June 2 (Reuters) - A federal judge in Texas awarded set-top box maker TiVo (NASDAQ:TIVO) Inc <TIVO.O> about $190 million in damages on Tuesday in a long-running patent infringement dispute with DISH Network Corp and EchoStar Corp .

U.S. District Judge David Folsom also ordered EchoStar to disable an infringing function on all but about 193,000 digital video recorders placed with subscribers.

Folson also found that EchoStar violated an injunction he put in place after a Texas jury found the company infringed TiVo's patent with several digital video recorder models by implementing new "workaround" technology that TiVo claimed still infringed.

The court set a June 26 hearing on potential sanctions against EchoStar.

In his final order, Folsom ruled that TiVo should recover from EchoStar $73.9 million plus $15.7 million in interest on the patent infringement claims, plus $103.1 million in damages plus interest accrued during the stay of the injunction.

EchoStar also was ordered to inform the court before it attempts to implement another "design-around" of the patent it infringed.

In a statement, TiVo said it was "extremely gratified by the Court's well reasoned and thorough decision, in which it rejected EchoStar's attempted workaround claim regarding the TiVo patent, found EchoStar to be in contempt of court and ordered the permanent injunction fully enforced."

DISH and EchoStar will appeal the court's decision and file a motion to stay the order with a federal appeals court, the companies said in a statement.

DISH was formerly known as EchoStar Communications Corp. (NASDAQ:DISH) It spun off its technology assets over a year ago, including its set-top box division, to create EchoStar Corp.

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