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To: Arthur Radley who wrote (78)1/31/2000 6:12:00 PM
From: Abuckatatime
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Lehrer News Hour has report on GM food tonight.

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To: Abuckatatime who wrote (79)4/6/2000 8:40:00 PM
From: Mike McFarland
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Rice genome FAQ
monsanto.com

gosh, we really let the thread go dormant, there has been a deluge of reporting on GMOs lately...no way to archive every link I guess, seems like nearly every day I see something new on the subject. Still, let's see if we can't get the thread moving again.

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To: Mike McFarland who wrote (80)5/18/2000 12:58:00 AM
From: Mike McFarland
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Nature Insight Biodiversity
a freebie at Nature.com

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To: Mike McFarland who wrote (81)6/24/2010 5:15:30 PM
From: LLCF
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Hi Mike,

Amazing it's been 10 years since someone posted here with GMO being such an important topic. Strange.

DAK

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To: LLCF who wrote (82)6/27/2010 10:53:38 PM
From: Mike McFarland
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I see Roundup Ready Alfalfa in the news,
but you're right, the thread never took.

I don't think there are an awful lot of active
members on SI--maybe a hundred? A lot less than
ten years ago.

And we have learned that pointing to something
interesting isn't the same thing as learning
about it. I know that I was just a dumb kid ten years
ago--now I'd like to think I'm a little more sober and
thoughtful. Not that I study any one thing in any
great detail--I just know now to keep most of my
thoughts to myself.

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To: Mike McFarland who wrote (83)6/28/2010 2:46:13 PM
From: LLCF
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<I don't think there are an awful lot of active
members on SI--maybe a hundred? A lot less than
ten years ago.>

Wow... didn't know that, but HAVE noticed that a lot of "tech" folks that REALLY know what they're talking about have left... BIOTECH for example, but ALSO the QCOM wonks and all. Too bad.

And I agree with you as keeping thoughts to self... too much arguing going on over dogmatic junk on SI these dayz. Wonderin if it's worth posting much any more.

DAK

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To: LLCF who wrote (84)6/28/2010 6:18:22 PM
From: Mike McFarland
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I enjoy posting and getting feedback--although I pretty much
confine it to the personal computer thread now. As far as
the biotech guys, the core group of about half a dozen is
still here, I havn't been monitoring those threads--and
I don't expect to be speculating in biotech again, but
it was a great experience when the market was hot.

Getting back to GMOs, here are fast growing salmon
nytimes.com

I don't mind saying that fast growing salmon make
me uneasy--but in general GMO crops do not. I'll leave
it there--I'm just not informed or educated well enough to
say anything one way or the other about GMOs. I certainly
do eat plenty of them--I'm not really into the orgainic
free range 'sustainable' movement.

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To: Mike McFarland who wrote (85)6/29/2010 11:38:19 AM
From: LLCF
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<I'm just not informed or educated well enough to
say anything one way or the other about GMOs.>

Me neither... AND my concern is that:

1.) It's not an issue of education... NO ONE fully understands how it works. I recommend a general reading on developmental biology... as that is where all the interesting info on evolution is coming out of. Good search words for learning about how little we know about how genes work are "epigentics" & "micro-Rna's" for a starter.

2.) There are many of the "movers and shakers" are in the same position as we are but are either too close to the trees to realize they don't understand the forest, OR won't admit it.

DAK

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To: LLCF who wrote (86)6/29/2010 9:14:03 PM
From: Mike McFarland
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I haven't thought it out at all--but I do have
a kneejerk reaction to farm raised Atlantic
salmon, and I never buy it. Now intellectually
I should eat more fish, especially oily salmon
which is so good for you, but I only treat myself
to a little wild salmon now and then. Having
cheap farm raised fish is probably a net net
good thing and I think I'd be on very thin ice
if I said it is in any way different from wild
(except to say that it competes with fishermen,
and that when it isn't colored it looks to me
rather unappealing).

I've been eating more halibut lately, gosh it has
been good and they had a good catch this season.

I'll try to do a little reading and maybe I'll get
around to clarifying my unease about farm raised
salmon--if I figure it out. I eat pork--and it is
a little nutty to do that and be at all squeamish
about farm raised fish. My stomach is stronger than
my intellect.

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To: Mike McFarland who wrote (87)6/29/2010 9:32:06 PM
From: LLCF
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< Having
cheap farm raised fish is probably a net net
good thing and I think I'd be on very thin ice
if I said it is in any way different from wild>

Oh, it's different... you can see it, feel it and taste it. That's not to say one shouldn't eat it. :)) OTOH, like farming, it probably depends on HOW it is raised.

<<(except to say that it competes with fishermen,
and that when it isn't colored it looks to me
rather unappealing).>>

Well, there is also the lack of plentiful fish in the wild these dayz... good reason to eat farm raised fish right there.

DAK

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