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To: sea_urchin who wrote (21213)6/16/2004 11:43:02 AM
From: philv
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The C.P.I. statistic which came in benign was unfortunately late due to technical problems.

The next set of inflation figures is the P.P.I. Unfortunately it too is being delayed for about a week due to technical difficulties.

Repeat after me. There is no inflation.....there is no inflation....there is......

How else can they justify the present ridiculous interest rate, or the value of the currency? Repeat after me. There is no inflation. There are no bubbles. Debt doesn't matter. The dollar is sound. Life is good!!

I know, because I heard it on CNBC.

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (21212)6/16/2004 12:07:02 PM
From: sea_urchin
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Gustave > the staunchest supporters of jackboot Israel are the far-right parties and pseudo-liberal Jews, that is, Jews who advocate liberal values at home but blindly support Israel's illiberal, religious fanaticism

On the basis of my own experience, particularly with whites in South Africa (I am one), I identify certain traits which may account for this:

1. The delusion that one is "better" than others. There is thus an innate arrogance

2. The refusal to live side-by-side with others and accept their values. One has to have segregation, apartheid, a ghetto, either for oneself or the others.

3. The basis of the delusion being a God-conferred quality eg religion, skin color, whatever. This confers the self-righteousness which is typical. One has to be answerable to a "Higher" calling.

4. The evident manifestation of the belief expressed by the slogan "when the going gets tough, the true believer is gone" -- emigrated -- the victim of a purge or persecution, whatever. Then he can start up his "cause" in a new country, claiming sympathy, possibly expecting some advantage for his "suffering", and invariably rising to the top of the socio-economic tree in the new country -- until he "pisses off" the people there too -- and the process starts all over.

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To: philv who wrote (21214)6/16/2004 12:17:22 PM
From: sea_urchin
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Phil > How else can they justify the present ridiculous interest rate, or the value of the currency? Repeat after me. There is no inflation. There are no bubbles. Debt doesn't matter. The dollar is sound. Life is good!!

But even more amazing is how the markets are all paralysed by this. I'm sure everyone sees what's going on but no-one knows what to do. In fact, it's like a Zen situation where the best form of action is inaction. Except for the goldbugs, of course, who, one can be sure, are stocking up with "you know what".

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (21211)6/16/2004 12:29:38 PM
From: sea_urchin
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Gustave > Veep Cheney is the one who's got to "come clean"...

That's not so easy. "Here's the smell of the blood still: all the perfumes of Arabia will not sweeten this little hand. O, O, O!" Macbeth, V, i

> Secr of State Powell's been clean all along

Maybe. He may have started off "clean" but coffee fell on him. In my eyes, he no longer has any credibility. As they say, "If you lie down with dogs, you get fleas". He got. Plenty.

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (21210)6/16/2004 12:33:21 PM
From: sea_urchin
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Gustave > Don't worry, the Chinese are gonna bail you out.

Thanks. I hope so. But one can be sure that the government will do what it can to screw things up.

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (21209)6/16/2004 1:49:52 PM
From: sea_urchin
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Gustave > Chinese "slaves" can afford the best French chefs

There's a big difference between the vice dens of Macau and the sweat-shops of Beijing.

> Are Chinese products unfairly cheap or is it just the other way around --European/US products/services are OVERPRICED??

There is no standard. As far as salary is concerned, wherever one is, the cost of living rises to meet, and then exceed, one's income, especially if one is lowly paid. The difference between Chinese and Western wages is merely that, in the West, a bigger amount passes through the workers' hands and, clearly, a worker in the West couldn't survive on Chinese wages when he can barely survive on Western wages. Anyway, the trade union wouldn't allow any employer in the West to pay them.

That's why it suits a Western industrialist to open a factory in China because he pays "going rate" Chinese wages and sells the good in the West at "going rate" Western prices.

But you know this!

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To: sea_urchin who wrote (21205)6/16/2004 2:42:35 PM
From: sea_urchin
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> he's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.

And here's another "fall guy" -- Brigadier General Janis Karpinski.

212.2.162.45

>>The American general who was in charge of Iraq’s notorious Abu Ghraib was today involved in an astonishing war of words with her superiors, who accused her of lying.

Brigadier General Janis Karpinski claimed in a BBC radio interview she was being made a scapegoat for the abuse of inmates and said her successor once told her prisoners should be treated “like dogs.”

She said Major General Geoffrey Miller – who was in charge of the Guantanamo Bay detention camp and now oversees US prisons in Iraq – told her last autumn that prisoners “are like dogs, and if you allow them to believe at any point that they are more than a dog then you’ve lost control of them.”

But Lieutenant Colonel, Barry Johnson, a spokesman for US detention operations in Iraq, said Miller “made no such comment to Brigadier General Karpinski or to anybody else.”

“This allegation flies in the face of the philosophy of humane treatment for all detainees, under all circumstances, that Major General Miller adopted first at Guantanamo, and now at his position in Iraq,” he said.

”Karpinski’s statement to the media is categorically false.”<<

Tell that to the Marines!

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To: sea_urchin who wrote (21217)6/16/2004 2:47:26 PM
From: Jamey
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I am still regurgitating Powell's famous indictment of Saddam and Al Queda at the United Nations as he held his little vial of Anthrax and did the Uncle Tom for Bush and Cheney. Bet he is having a hard time too as it is reported he refuses to be in the same room as Cheney now.

James

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To: Jamey who wrote (21221)6/16/2004 11:03:27 PM
From: sea_urchin
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James > I am still regurgitating Powell's famous indictment of Saddam and Al Queda at the United Nations

Seems like others feel the same way.

msnbc.msn.com

>>Billing themselves as Diplomats and Military Commanders for Change, 27 retired senior government officials released a statement Wednesday morning claiming George W. Bush’s foreign policy has damaged the United States’s reputation abroad, making the country less safe and isolated from its natural allies. The U.S. invaded Iraq with dubious evidence of weapons of mass destruction and without a clear exit strategy, they claim, endangering the lives of U.S. soldiers and destabilizing the entire region. Their unusual stand includes an appeal to voters to remove the incumbent from the White House this fall. <<

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To: sea_urchin who wrote (21218)6/17/2004 4:07:10 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER
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Re: Thanks. I hope so. But one can be sure that the government will do what it can to screw things up.

The more your gov screws it up, the sooner the bailout by the Chinese!

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