| To: Dusty who wrote (24) | 4/26/1998 3:22:00 PM | | From: cool | | | |
Hi Dusty, thanks for the info, I started a new thread
today, getting addicted to this new form ofcommunication.
I use Datek & DiscoverBrokerage now. Datek has limitations as does DB & will keep looking into others.
There is a thread on online brokers which is informative.
Good luck with your new thread! |
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| To: Dusty who wrote (21) | 4/26/1998 5:11:00 PM | | From: Charger | | | |
Hey there! I didnt know you had a coffee club. This is a good idea. I have good recipe for green tomatoe pie if anyone wants it.
Dusty - go check out my new site: "AQHA/TOBA - Racehorses" and post any old thing, you know <<GG>>
Charger |
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| To: Dusty who wrote () | 4/26/1998 6:16:00 PM | | From: Dusty | | | |
Online Brokerages Article: Interesting
FINANCE AND ECONOMICS
Stockbroking
E-trading places
N E W Y O R K A N D P A L O A L T O
THE clever young things in Silicon Valley have made a fortune by selling shares in Internet-based firms. But will companies that offer Internet share trading make anything like as much money? There are now more than 70 online brokerages in America. Last year, calculates Credit Suisse First Boston, an investment bank, the number of Americans investing using the Internet more than doubled, to 3.3m. Online trades increased by 181%, to 26m, and accounted for one-fifth of all retail trades by some estimates. Yet fears are growing that there will be few profits in online trading unless the brokerages that provide it also succeed in invading more lucrative bits of the personal-finance business.
So far, Internet trading has thrived because it is cheap. E*Trade led the way, offering $20 trades compared with the $60-plus charged by traditional discount brokerages such as Charles Schwab. Then E*Trade was itself undercut by firms such as Ameritrade, which spent $25m in the fourth-quarter of 1997 advertising its "eight bucks" Internet trade. E*Trade says that many of its new customers used to be with Schwab; Schwab says that the sort of customers it once lost to E*Trade now mostly go to cheaper rivals such as Ameritrade.
Talk of $8 trades is a bit misleading, as the lowest charges apply to only the most basic transactions. Ameritrade's customers pay an average of almost $20 per trade, for example. But margins have shrunk. And the cost of winning new business has been rising for both E*Trade and Schwab, the market leader in Internet trading.
The electronic traders face a more basic challenge. The cash that Wall Street market-making firms pay brokers to send trades their way, known as "payment for order flow", has been a vital source of income for E*Trade and others, says Bill Burnham, an analyst with Piper Jaffray. But this is now drying up, because new rules imposed by the Securities and Exchange Commission have shrunk the profits that market makers earn on the spread between buy and sell prices. A year ago, market makers paid brokers more than $10 a trade. Now they pay less than $3. Mr Burnham expects such payments to dry up completely.
The leading Internet brokers now want to move upmarket by offering customers far more than cheap trading. Schwab has been trying to do this for years, and thinks it can also use the Internet to add to its services. Next week will see the launch of "Destination E*Trade", a souped-up web site which will offer research and other financial services, such as bill payments. The web site will also offer other companies' products, from mutual funds to mortgages. "This product is critical to E*Trade's future prosperity," says David Readerman, an analyst with NationsBanc Montgomery Securities, who is worried by the firm's recent lacklustre performance. Ameritrade this week said it will launch a fancier web site of its own.
If this strategy works, it will threaten those full-service brokerages that have so far largely left Internet broking alone. The cost advantages of the Internet could force margins down across all brokerage businesses. The full-service firms say that they are confident that the personal advice offered by their brokers, along with the quality of their research, justifies their much higher costs. But they cannot offer a competitive Internet product because it would upset their armies of stockbrokers. Even Merrill Lynch, the doyen of full-service brokerages, has postponed plans to offer its customers online (but fully priced) trading.
The banks, on the other hand, are likely to pose a much bigger threat to the Internet brokerages. They have no established broking business to lose and the Internet could help them win valuable customers from the full-service brokerage firms. They also have other tempting products to offer alongside share trading. Next month Wells Fargo, a Californian bank that has pioneered online banking, is expected to roll out an online brokerage service for its banking customers. Other banks are sure to follow. If they succeed, both the new breed of online brokerages and Wall Street's long-established offline ones may find profits increasingly elusive.
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| To: Dusty who wrote (30) | 4/26/1998 6:37:00 PM | | From: Charger | | | |
OK, here is is. Dick Parks' Green Tomatoe Pie:
This is a spring recipe, important to get those green tomatoes of your own bushes (or your neighbor's, lol)
6-8 med. size green tomatoes
1 Tbs. lemon juice
1 tsp. granted lemon or orange rind
1/2 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. cinnamon
3/4 c. sugar
2 Tbs. cornstarch
1 Tbs. butter
Pastry for 9" double crusted pie
Wash tomats, peel (opt), slice sort of thinly (easy when hard).
Combine next 4 ingred. in saucepan and cook 15 mins. Stir freq.
Mix sugar & cornstarch. Add tomat. mixture and cook until clear, stir contsantly.
Add butter, cool. Pour into bottom pastry, cap, seal edges, prick design, baste w/ cream. Bake @ 425 for 40-50 mins. Serve warm or cool.
Enjoy.
Charger
P.S. Everyone please hit my AQHA/TOBA site to get it started. We are having fun over there too. |
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| To: Dusty who wrote (27) | 4/26/1998 8:27:00 PM | | From: Paul R Hnott | | | |
Here is the recipe for pickled green beans.
The key is fresh beans. I grow my own and they are canned within 2 hours after being picked. I hand pick straight beans and cut them to uniform length to fit within a half inch of the top of the jar. You could cut them into pieces if you want less work but you lose the fancy look. I use Blue Lake or Kentucky Wonder bush beans. Sometimes I use a red serrano pepper in place of the crushed red pepper.
Crisp Dilled Green Beans
This goes in 1 pint jar:
green beans
crushed red pepper (1/2 tsp.)
chopped garlic (1/2 tsp.)
dill (1 piece per pint)
pickling spice (1/2 tsp.)
This is enough liquid for 4 pints:
2 cups water
2 cups vinegar
1/4 cup salt (do not use iodized)
Heat jars (oven 225)
Heat lids and rings in hot water (no boil)
Heat liquid to boiling
put stuff in jar then beans
pour liquid to 1/2 in. of top
put on lid and ring
process in boiling water bath for 5 min.
I don't lower jars into water bath till the water is full boil
Enjoy,
Paul
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| To: Dusty who wrote (9) | 4/27/1998 6:01:00 PM | | From: Charger | | | |
Dusty - this is a really great idea. Pretty impressive that it stayed so high up on the Hot Topics list for the weekend (when people have more time to relax and chat).
I should prolly bring my "horse site" over here (I race racehorses). Anyone interested in "horse" chatter ?
So, what part of California are you in?
Charger |
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