To: G. H. who wrote (10482) | 2/24/1999 1:52:00 PM | From: Esway | | |
Wednesday's top news Latest dispatches from the Robertson Stephens tech show
By CBS MarketWatch Last Update: 1:05 PM ET Feb 24, 1999 FORE Systems Inc. (FORE) expects "dramatic increases" in revenue starting with the June quarter. Chief Executive Tom Gill, speaking to a reporter after his presentation , said the company's previous guidance for its fourth quarter, ending in March, stands. The company, which makes network switches and other equipment, previously guided analysts lower. Gill said new-product sales will kick in after this quarter |
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To: Esway who wrote (10483) | 2/24/1999 3:46:00 PM | From: michael m | | |
What's wrong with this stock!! Every time there is an upside, the stock tanks. Today it hit 18, than took a dive to 16. I've been holding on waiting and waiting but my patience has grown short. Is there really any promise in their products or is it just wishful thinking that they could increase market share with their ATM switches. Any insight from anyone?
MM |
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To: michael m who wrote (10485) | 2/24/1999 4:10:00 PM | From: shk | | |
The volume's roughly 5,000,000 so my guess is that the morning's strong move up triggered activity both by shorts and by those who got in last week in the 12's and 13's with an eye to selling the first day of steady trading over 17 |
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To: michael m who wrote (10485) | 2/24/1999 4:50:00 PM | From: Rich | | |
Owning this stock=patience and frustration.
Gill's comments about the June quarter is once again Fore dangling the carrot out there.
Sounds familiar like "we have a backlog of orders". We all expected them to exceed last quarters numbers but once again dissappointed.
Patience until the summer? HMMMMMMMM |
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To: G. H. who wrote (10482) | 2/24/1999 5:50:00 PM | From: JZGalt | | |
The network switching company told money managers at the BancBoston Robertson Stephens tech conference on Wednesday that they should expected a "dramatic increase" in revenue for the quarter ending in June.
That's when sales of the company's new products are expected to show up in top line. To make sure, CEO Tom Gill said the company is marketing to the executives on the highest ranking officers in the companies that buy their products
"We're taking the decisions to the top decision makers in corporation -- the CEOs, the CFOs, the CIOs," he said. "We're marketing our strategy toward that particular audience."
[blah, blah blah, snip]
In notes prepared for the conference, Robertson Stephens analyst Paul Johnson pointed to the "an acceleration in the decline in pricing for ATM switches and network interface boards, and the potential for increasing competition within the market for ATM products as well as the challenge of competing against the larger industry giants.
That's probably one reason why Gill focused more on the top line than the bottom-line during his presentation. Afterward, he told CBS.MarketWatch.com that he's comfortable with current Wall Street profit expectations. According to First Call, those would be 12 cents a share for the March quarter, 14 cents in June.
What does Johnson think? "At current levels, FORE's stock valuation is not cheap, especially when compared to larger, less volatile companies."
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Wonder what magic valuation tool he is using? |
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To: JZGalt who wrote (10490) | 2/25/1999 12:15:00 AM | From: jach | | |
Very simple answer, using the clueless methods; almost all are clue-less and follow-the-herds that could not tell the difference between an ATM switch and a kitchen fan-switch. No wonder, more than 65% of the money managers and mutual funds lag behind the simple S&P500 index. Why bother keeping money in these funds and using these analysts, just buy SPY (SPiDER)like one would buy mutual funds. Within the next three years almost all the brokerage houses will be begging for customers as most investors will be either investing their own pick of stocks, or just simply use deep-discount Internet brokerage and will be investing in a number of index related derivatives or DRs. all imo.
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By Tiare Rath, CBS MarketWatch Last Update: 9:40 PM ET Feb 24, 1999 Renegade Reports Tech Report
SAN FRANCISCO (CBS.MW) -- For all the money they move and all the power they hold, investment banks and companies sure can be clueless.
Thursday will be the final day of BancBoston Robertson Stephens Tech '99 conference -- the third of its kind in four weeks.
No, the bank didn't hold three conferences. (That would be the ultimate clueless move.) Instead, it held the final event in a month of technology investment conferences that featured most of the same companies.
The first week of February brought NationsBanc Montgomery's technology conference. That was followed by Goldman Sachs' the next week. After a whopping five working days of not hearing from the tech giants, BancBoston Robertson Stephens provided investors with that very opportunity. See Renegade reports.
At that point, money managers and journalists were seeing each other more than their own family members. And investors weren't getting many new clues about what to do with their money from companies.
Tech overkill
Technology Overkill February begs the question: How much can really change for companies in one week? Answer: Not a whole heck of a lot.
By the time the Robbie Stephens event rolled around, Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) still wasn't throwing its executives to the money-management wolves. (The chip maker pulled out of all three conferences and warned of a possible loss in its first quarter.)
Most companies that did present still saw the same "significant" growth rates or felt "comfortable" with their businesses -- just as they had in the previous two weeks.
BancBoston Robertson Stephens Vice President Camille Lepre said the banks don't exactly coordinate when they're holding conferences -- they are, after all, competitors. February is often a good time because companies are entering their fiscal years and they're coming out of quiet periods, she said.
Not much to say
But many companies, like Dell Computer (DELL) at Goldman Sachs, were in their quiet periods during their presentations. And others just didn't have too much to say.
"Every conference is what you make of it," said James Renck of Renck Capital Management, who's been following technology companies for 20 years. "You find [the news] in the hallway, not in the general presentations."
But if investors were hearing news in the hallways, it probably wasn't originating from the tech bellwethers. Many of the big boys pulled the clueless move of sending to investment conferences random executives who knew everything about tech but not a whole lot about money.
Cisco Systems (CSCO) sent the vice president of its enterprise line to Montgomery; IBM (IBM) shipped the senior vice president of its data technology group to Goldman Sachs; the vice president and director of platform launch operations was sent by Intel (INTC) to BancBoston Robertson Stephens.
Kudos, on the other hand, to companies like Micron Technology (MU) and Excite (XCIT), whose chief executives decided it was worth their while to talk to investors.
Cisco Systems didn't return a call explaining its decision, though Micron spokeswoman Julie Nash was more than happy to tell why it sent Chairman and Chief Executive Steven Appleton: "Mr. Appleton likes to keep in touch with the analyst community," she said.
It would be nice if more companies' top-tier executives felt the same way. And it would be great if, on top of that, they could review their businesses once every month or two, rather than every week.
Those two efforts would help give shareholders more insight into their investments -- and would make banks and companies look much less clueless.
Not everyone is making money. There are actually investors, believe it or not, who buy or sell a stock, commodity, piece of art or security at the wrong time. CBS MarketWatch readers, if you have a five-paragraph tale of clueless adventures, email it to the CBS MarketWatch newsroom. |
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