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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (1238)3/14/2019 8:52:31 PM
From: sense
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"every single message ever written here is still here, for anyone to see at any time"

My own experience is that "the internet" is very significantly editable. I think future historians sifting through the mass of data will have some real issues with source quality... and not only because "you had to be there at the time" to comprehend the exchanges in context. Of course, most of the data isn't likely to be of interest anyway... but, the things that are will also be far more likely to be subject to exercises in influence. Relevance and reliability are likely to be inversely related. I don't see the internet becoming a "permanent record" in that way. Probably only in ways you won't appreciate.

SI has proven far better than most, in my experience, but the primary protection of the history that I see is only in the mass of the data, it mostly being far too large for people to bother with. Then, the passions of the day that drove the flame wars we joined are very unlikely to prove timeless, or even interesting, in the afterglow in others eyes.

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To: Intrepid1 who wrote (1245)3/14/2019 9:17:48 PM
From: sense
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Yeah. Saw that pass across Drudge recently. My immediate skepticism proved prescient.

I've not read the actual study yet... but have found none of the descriptions of it compelling enough to make me want to read it.

You could make essentially the same claim by rewinding a cheap cassette player while listening as the sounds are being played backwards rapidly. I guess reversing a digital stream isn't different, either, if you limit the analysis to output representing positions along the time scale.

But, what if you lock the cassette player as its rewinding inside a safe with a cat ?

Returning to the prior state... any reversal along a prior path... isn't necessarily a reversal of the time arrow.

Pause walking down the stairs, and step backwards up a step... Does that reverse the flow of time ?

I've not yet seen anyone publish a convincing enough description of what time is... to think that I should trust anyone making claims about how it operates.

Also, will always have issues with the use of purely statistical analysis to describe any related phenom.

As you sit reading this post... how much of you is already in the future, and how much of you is already in the past... as you pass through the present ? Relativity seems it requires that our experience of time is densely local, locally, but increasingly non-local given ever greater separations in... inertia ? Is the separation between entangled quantum pairs... occurring as a drift outside the flow of time... with an instantaneous dilation event upon recognition ? How do you measure that ? Schrodinger's use of a cat... didn't intend to limit effects, or the analysis, to cats ?

But, if you enjoyed that claim as entertaining... you should probably Google "frozen light".

Wait. Isn't the speed of light a constant ?

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To: Graystone who wrote (1239)3/14/2019 9:30:29 PM
From: sense
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"Sincerity is important, I am not sure there is any way to measure that."

SI Ron - who do you guys have working on the AI tools for the admins to use in measuring a posters sincerity when evaluating participants TOU compliance ?

Seems to me I was just reading something, last week, about a lawsuit, and Homeland Security's use of tech for behavioral analysis with tech based outputs resulting in subjecting some people to "increased attention" ?

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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (1238)6/20/2019 10:59:21 AM
From: richardred
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>But, on the other hand, my guess is that most of us would not regret any of it because it was genuine, at least at the time we wrote it. At least that's how I look at it. :)

Fair enough later Jeff ! Yeah I'm clean out my business stuff and I came across this. :+ ) Seems an appropriate place to post it.




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To: richardred who wrote (1249)6/20/2019 12:18:44 PM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell
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Wow. I never knew SI, under any ownership, actually recruited anyone to post here. I was over on the Compuserve forums prior to finding SI. I actually still remember writing my first post for "all the world to see". For fun, I just looked it up: Message 498839

- Jeff

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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (1250)6/20/2019 12:43:36 PM
From: richardred
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I came over looking when I thought the end of Individual investors was near.

I believe this was my first post here. I loved Jacks Hartmans Qtr Qtr forum and still do. Sam Raven's also, but he is now gone.

Message 13739542
My first successful TO carried over from II

Message 14273522

Message 16632291

BTW- most of my posts here at SI are short, not like they were on II. We didn't have the capabilities at II. I recycle a lot of my post to save time. I absolutely love the search & keep feature here. I just wish they could use all the search years with that feature. Maria Bartiromo's husband owned the Individual investors site. I believe she was on the cover of the second magazine. The da Chief here was also in an II issue.

Subject 52296

I'm going to post it to his board if I find it.

Rick

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From: SI Ron (Colonel Sammy)6/20/2019 1:48:16 PM
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Message 32205611

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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (1250)8/16/2019 6:56:45 AM
From: Level Head
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Hello, Jeffrey! It has been a long time, but I too remember lots of SI early history, and my very enjoyable interactions with you. I was a relative latecomer here, from early 1999.

I hope you've been well and happy. I am ... happy, but resemble Steven Hawking a bit. My brain still works, I can still type (if slowly), and can use a joystick and mouse, so I count myself fortunate.

===|==============/ Level Head

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To: Level Head who wrote (1253)8/19/2019 2:52:53 PM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell
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Hey Level Head, good to hear from you! I take it you are writing your own book on the secrets of the universe? :)

Of course you now know that most of us early SI folks were nothing more than computer algorithms anyhow. Once SI shuts down, there goes our world. Until then, welcome back inside the matrix.

- Jeff

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From: OldAIMGuy12/3/2019 2:30:10 PM
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Our AIM Users Group migrated to SI in 1997. First post was 02/09/1997 as a test. Jill helped me get the board up and running and then I brought over our group from the "Money Talk" BB on Prodigy, I believe. It was a significant improvement.

I became acquainted with SI Bob (Zumbrunnen) along the way and shared track time with him at Road America one fine and sunny weekend.

Best regards,
Tom

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