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To: Steve Porter who wrote (287)10/3/1997 2:00:00 AM
From: tiquer
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MS has a signed agreement with SUN that allows them to "Add whatever they want to Java as long as they support whatever SUN adds".. so basically MS is free to do what they want with it, and thus we have 2 versions now (and rumours were/are flying about a release that was designed by a joint group of software developers.. god help us all ;)

Java is suffering what UNIX suffered (as you pointed out)... that's why "I know java" but "I don't use it very often".


Every post of yours sounds like a replay of stuff i've read before... bunch-o-crap....

businessweek.com

Roger R

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To: Steve Porter who wrote (294)10/3/1997 8:33:00 AM
From: Justin Banks
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Steve -

You're joking right?????

Nope. I saw it on a Walmart web page. Who would have even guessed that they had a web page?

How big is a proper install of it now.. last I checked it was quiet large..

Depends on what you mean by proper. A full 6.3 on O2 takes up about 1G. You should realize that includes all kinds of stuff that I personally don't think is necessary. It includes the VRML setup stuff for O2, the man pages in both nroff and html, 2 webservers, and on and on. It also depends on what other types of optional stuff you're installing. Do you want the on-line books? X development headers, libraries, demos, man pages, etc.

Of course, it also includes all the media manipulation tools, plus (depending on what package you get) photoshop, framemaker, video s/w, etc. Hope you like it.

-justinb

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To: Bill Jackson who wrote (301)10/3/1997 1:42:00 PM
From: Steve Porter
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Bill,

Perhaps..

Steve

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To: tiquer who wrote (302)10/3/1997 1:42:00 PM
From: Steve Porter
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Roger R>

Then don't read them smart-ass...

Steve

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To: Justin Banks who wrote (292)10/3/1997 1:43:00 PM
From: Patrick Gainer
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"There's assembly in almost every OS, for atomicity reasons.
I was (and still am) under the impression that most of 3.x
and lots of 92 were in assembly, though. I think (but I'm
not sure) that most of Irix is in C++."

Just for the record:
- Every OS has assembler because there are several low
level functions (ISR, etc) which require interfacing
very closely with the hardware and C/C++ doesn't
easily allow this

- Irix is 99% C (not C++) and 1% asm, as is every Unix system.

Pat

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To: Justin Banks who wrote (303)10/3/1997 1:45:00 PM
From: Steve Porter
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Justin.

Incredible Walmart is selling SGI compatible ram and SGI is shipping a machine with ptoentially 2 web servers..

THis is getting confusing ;).. thanks for the advice I'm going to check into an o2 as soon as I'm done.

Steve

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To: Patrick Gainer who wrote (306)10/3/1997 3:22:00 PM
From: Justin Banks
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Pat -

Irix is 99% C (not C++) and 1% asm, as is every Unix system.

When was the last time you saw source, just out of curiosity?

-justinb

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To: Justin Banks who wrote (308)10/6/1997 12:41:00 PM
From: drmorgan
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Sun to unveil 600-MHz chip

The UltraSparc-III chip is also "scalable," which
means that more chips can be added on to the
system, for multiple processing, which vastly
increases computing speeds. Sun said with this new
chip, it could build a computer with over 1,000
processors, which would rival the fastest
supercomputers.


Gee, can Wintel do that?

news.com

Derek

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To: drmorgan who wrote (309)10/6/1997 2:06:00 PM
From: Justin Banks
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Derek -

Sun's pretty cool, and this chip is really neat, but unfortunately, insiders say this is little more than hype to counter Merced. Seems like everybody wants to ship vapor these days.

Makes me kinda sick. There's no way they can ship this by next year (IMO), and they know it.

-justinb

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To: drmorgan who wrote (309)10/6/1997 2:48:00 PM
From: Bill Jackson
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Derek, Yes, you just stuff the extra chips into the 3.5" drive or CDROM drive and the system incorporates them in crash and pray mode.

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