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To: Jeff who wrote (372)9/14/1998 8:38:00 AM
From: SE
   of 1150
I will still try to pull these over here as I think of it.....



PS to puddinhead. Glad you stopped by and showed us your class.


September 11, 1998

Greetings from Green Bay on another gorgeous late-summer day:

-- The Packers (1-0) host the Buccaneers (0-1) at noon Sunday at
Lambeau Field. It's a regional telecast on Fox with Dick Stockton
and Matt Millen again on the call. It's also a national radio
broadcast on CBS/Westwood One with Dave Sims and Jack Ham.
Check it out at

Here's the early forecast from Keith, our veteran Update
meteorologist in Norman, Okla., with putrid poetry to follow: Partly
cloudy after a good chance of showers Saturday. High in the upper
70s. Northwest wind, 5-10 mph.

For an updated forecast, check Keith's web site at

Of the Packers' streak they're proud, The faithful to bring cheers
loud, And venom to vent, To show vis'ting Trent, What makes for a
real home crowd.

-- WR Bert Emanuel is out for the Bucs with a badly sprained ankle.
Look for the Bucs to start Karl Williams or rookie Jacquez Green.
Bucs QB Trent Dilfer has a slightly separated throwing shoulder but
is expected to be fine for Sunday.

-- Just 2 minor, lingering injuries for the Packers after the 38-19 win
over the Lions. LT Ross Verba's sprained left ankle is still sore, but
he practiced Wednesday. WR Roell Preston has a sore hip, but
practiced, too.

-- Preston's sore hip is the one he landed on when he did the swan
dive into the end zone on his 100-yard kickoff return against the
Lions, but he insists it was hurt when he got jostled on the way to
the end zone. You be the judge.

Special teams coach Johnny Holland also got on Preston for showing
off the ball before getting to the end zone. Preston says he won't do
that again, but will keep the swan dive. A quote from him: "Well,
that's my trademark. That's just something I'm going to do if I get
wide open like that and there's nobody trying to run me down. If
someone tries to run me down, I'm not going to dive."

-- The Packers last week released CB Chris Darkins and activated FB
Michael Blair from the practice squad. Though the Packers are thin
at CB, they more urgently needed a backup FB. Darkins and Blair are
comparable on special teams, and Blair got the key block to pop
Preston loose on his big kickoff return against the Lions.

-- CB Anthony Bass was signed to fill out the practice squad. He's
6-1, 192, a former WR out of Bethune-Cookman. He was with the
Vikings during training camp but was let go in the 1st cuts. He
wears No. 45.

-- It was fairly obvious against the Lions, and RB Dorsey Levens
admitted as much. that his timing was off after missing all of
training camp. He got tired in the 2nd half. That's understandable,
given that he played the whole game except for 1 series in the 4th
quarter. A quote from Levens: "Pride alone kept me in the game. ...
I kind of thought they were going to ease me into the offense. I
guess that's their definition of easing me into the offense." Levens
also admitted he should have followed a couple more of FB William
Henderson's blocks rather than going it alone.

-- Before last week's game, the coaches leaned on Henderson to
improve his blocking. A quote from coach Mike Holmgren: "William's
got to play better than that. He's a better football player than that.
He did not have a very good preseason."

-- All the coaches watched special teams film on Monday to help
troubleshoot the Packers' kick return coverage problems. Of course,
they gave up a 101-yard kickoff return to the Lions' Terry Fair, but
the Packers also had problems holding blocks on their own returns.

-- This year's slogan on Steve Kraft's back fence, which faces the
Lambeau Field parking lot is "A Miami Holliday for Jim Max Ray 66."
Kraft has painted Packers slogans on his fence since 1984, and has
parlayed that into a paint commercial with NT Gilbert Brown for
Fleet Farm this year. Mike Gibbon of Seymour came up with this
year's slogan.

-- GM Ron Wolf has a new book due out in November. "The Packer
Way," written with Paul Attner of The Sporting News, and published
by St. Martin's Press ($23.95), talks about his strategies for building
a winning organization. The Press-Gazette's Jean Peerenboom's
quick review: "The book likely will appeal to Packers fans, and
business people will find the strategies interesting, though perhaps
not new." Wolf calls his style "management under fire." Of former
coach Lindy Infante, Wolf writes: "I knew immediately we would
have trouble working together, since he didn't embrace my style of
aggressive management."

-- WR Robert Brooks' 2nd CD is out. It's called "Robert Brooks: Down
with the Bay," and he says it features R&B, alternative rock, rap,
ballads and gospel. For more information, check his web site at

-- The numbers on Levens' new deal: 5 years, $25 million, with
$13.5 million coming in the 1st 3 years of the deal. He gets a $2
million salary and a $4.5 million signing bonus this season, then a
$1.5 million salary and $2 million roster bonus each of the next two
years. After that, the salaries are $4 million in 2001 and $3.4 million
in 2002, and the roster bonuses are $2 million in 2001 and $2.1
million in 2002. Levens must play in only 1 game each season to get
the roster bonus.

-- The numbers on QB Rick Mirer's deal: 4 years, $8.55 million, with
$7 million of the money coming in the last 2 years. He got an
$800,000 signing bonus. His base salary is a rock-bottom $200,000
in 1998 and he gets $550,000 in salary and bonuses in 1999, still a
bargain. If he's still on the team in 2000 and 2001, he's owed $3.5
million in salary and bonuses each year. The Packers, of course, can
restructure the deal at that time, or cut him before then if he
doesn't pan out.

-- Practice is again open to reporters. The Packers closed it last
October when they were struggling to pull the team together.

-- The Packers opened the season with a 38-19 win over the Lions
before 60,102 at Lambeau Field on Sunday.

Detroit 3 3 13 0 -- 19 Green Bay 10 7 7 14 -- 38

Green Bay -- Ryan Longwell, FG, 32, 9:19 left Green Bay -- LeRoy
Butler, 32, fumble return (Longwell kick), 6:23. Detroit -- Jason
Hanson, FG, 47, 1:10 Green Bay -- Dorsey Levens, 4, run (Longwell
kick), 9:40 Detroit -- Hanson, FG, 43, 0:43 Detroit -- Herman Moore,
25, pass from Scott Mitchell (pass failed), 12:39 Green Bay --
Antonio Freeman, 6, pass from Brett Favre (Longwell kick), 0:17
Detroit -- Terry Fair, 101, kickoff return (Hanson kick), 0:00 Green
Bay -- Roell Preston, 100, kickoff return (Longwell kick), 14:38 Green
Bay -- Freeman, 84, pass from Favre (Longwell kick), 1:53

For a more detailed game report and statistics, check the sources
listed below.

-- The back-to-back kickoff returns for TDs were the 1st in Packers
history, and the 1st in the NFL since 1987, when the Falcons'
Sylvester Stamps went 97 yards, then the 49ers' Joe Cribbs went 92

-- SS LeRoy Butler's TD tied him with Mike Douglass for most career
fumble returns for TDs. Each has 2.

-- It was hot and muggy, the hottest home opener ever. It was 81
at game time. The old record was 79, against the Rams in 1990.

-- Nice games for WRs Derrick Mayes and Bill Schroeder, who
combined for 6 catches and no drops, and rookie S Scott
McGarrahan, who filled in at SS on the dime pass defense when FS
Darren Sharper sustained a minor concussion. Sharper sat out the
end of the 2nd quarter and the 1st series of the 3rd quarter. Nice
games also by RG Adam Timmerman, LB George Koonce and rookie
DE Vonnie Holliday, who was in on all but 8 plays on defense.

-- Nice game also for Butler, who moved to slot CB in the dime
when Sharper got hurt and made a big play to knock a pass away
from Lions WR Johnnie Morton.

-- CB Craig Newsome gave a good effort, but is struggling to regain
his form. The Lions completed 6 of 14 passes against him, and he
let Moore and WR Germane Crowell get past him on overthrown

-- Brooks rested his back for the 1st 2 series of the 2nd half.

-- Favre took a shot in the ribs and has a sore ankle, but is fine.

-- The Packers stopped Lions RB Barry Sanders' streak of 100-yard
rushing games at 14.

-- RB Raymont Harris was 1 of the Packers' inactive players. They
are resting his sore leg and want him to focus on running the ball.
Blair was activated instead because he plays special teams. The
Packers' other inactives: Mirer, C Mike Flanagan, G Mike Wahle, DE
Jonathan Brown, DE Billy Lyon, LB Jude Waddy and WR Corey

And now, the viewer mail:

-- Luz and Mike are looking for good places to watch Packers games
in Tampa, Fla. They're at

-- Thanks to everyone for the kind, thoughtful notes we received
after announcing the end of the e-mail service. Surprisingly, quite a
few folks thought it was a good idea to do so. Most folks are looking
forward to visiting the South End Zone for the updates. While you're
there, check out the many other features on the site. Scott has done
a terrific job redesigning the site for the new season.

As always, your questions and comments are welcome at

This week's sources: Green Bay Press-Gazette
(, Milwaukee
Journal Sentinel ( and
Packers ( web pages.

-- This week's adventures with Evan: He is off to day care on
Wednesdays and Thursdays, and Mom and Dad are delighted for the
break it provides us between 9 a.m. and 3 p.m. You should be, too.
It's when your updates get written. When I dropped him off on
Wednesday, he got a big hug from a little blonde girl. He was
slightly taken aback, but ready to hit the playground. On Thursday,
he was excited to be able to start class in "the big kids' room." That
is, the room for the 4-year-olds.

-- Finally, a couple of housekeeping notes

As we move to the South End Zone, we have a couple of features
you may find helpful. Thanks to Scott for setting them up.

Thanks to Steve in Eau Claire for suggesting a special URL for the
most current update. Set your browsers to

That said, look for your updates on Friday as usual throughout the
season. It'll probably be posted on the Thursday morning of the
Thursday night game next month.

Also, every web link is set up as a hot link, so you can go right to it
if you like.

As usual, if you wish to show your appreciation for these Packers
updates, volunteer or make a donation to the charity of your choice.

That's it.

Thanks, Jeff

Look for the updates at

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To: thomas who wrote (369)9/14/1998 1:06:00 PM
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Similar, except for the stink; cheeshead

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To: SE who wrote (373)9/14/1998 10:17:00 PM
From: SE
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PACKERS.COM Email List -- September 14, 1998 -- Volume II, Number 51

>>>>>>IN THIS ISSUE<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

- Levens Injury Update
- Packers Chat
- Next Up: Cincinnati
- Nelson Added To Practice Squad


Running back Dorsey Levens will be sidelined "for a few weeks" with a
sprained ankle and broken bone in his right leg, Head Coach Mike Holmgren
announced Monday, noting, "It's a little more severe than we first
thought...I would think we would lose him for a few weeks...He broke a
little bone in his leg and it's going to take that long for the thing to
knit. The break was up high, just below his knee on the side, and tied in
with the ankle sprain.

"The tests that he has gone through right now - if there was such a thing -
have been positive. Surgery doesn't appear to be necessary, but that's why
we're having another test (an MRI) done. But he will be out for a few

Details are available at

Roell Preston, who leads the NFL in kickoff returns with a 42.2-yard
average for 5 runbacks, will be the next visitor to Packers Chat

Preston will chat on Wednesday, September 16, from 4:30-5:00 pm CT.

Off to a highly gratifying 2-and-0 start - in their own NFC Central
Division race as well as in record - the Green Bay Packers take to the road
next Sunday (September 20) for the first time in the 1998 National Football
League season, invading Cincinnati for an inter-conference matchup with the
Bengals (1-1).

Kickoff for the contest, in Cinergy Field, is set for 12:01, CDT (Wisconsin

The Packers, who are bidding for a fourth straight NFC Central
championship, dispatched a division opponent for the second week in a row,
parlaying a 16-0 halftime lead into a 23-15 victory over the Tampa Bay

Their next opponents, the Bengals, also profited at the expense of an NFC
Central Division foe on the weekend, going into overtime to defeat the
Detroit Lions in their home Pontiac, Mich., Silverdome, 34-28.

Tim Ryan will call the play-by-play for the Fox Sports Network's telecast
of next Sunday's game and Bill Maas and Ronnie Lott will provide the

The contest also will be broadcast along the Packer Radio Network, with Jim
Irwin handling the play-by-play and Max McGee and Larry McCarren offering
commentary and analysis.

The Packers and Bengals are all even in their series entering Sunday's
game, which will be the ninth regular-season encounter in their mutual
history. Each team has won four of the previous eight meetings, the Packers
having squared the series by winning the last two, 24-23 in 1992 and 24-10
in 1995, both in Green Bay.

A complete game preview is available at

The Packers have signed linebacker Jim Nelson to their practice squad. The
6-foot-1, 235-pound Penn State alumnus originally had been claimed on
waivers from the San Francisco 49ers on July 21 and played in four
preseason games, posting 2 solo tackles as a special teams performer,
before being waived in the Packers' reduction to the
NFL-mandated 60-player limit August 25.

Nelson earlier had been signed by the 49ers April 24 as an undrafted free
agent following a career in which he had started 37 consecutive games for
Penn State's Nittany Lions, recording 254 tackles and 8 sacks over his
collegiate career.

Cornerback Anthony Bass was placed on waivers to make room for Nelson on
the practice squad. Nelson has been assigned jersey number 50.

For the latest in Packers' news be sure to check out,
the official web site of the Green Bay Packers.

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To: SE who wrote (375)9/15/1998 8:34:00 AM
From: puddinhead
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The Packers, who are bidding for a fourth straight NFC Central
championship, LOL will never happen. They have to many holes to fill. Sort of like Swiss CHEESE.


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To: puddinhead who wrote (376)9/20/1998 10:52:00 PM
From: Jeff
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defense wins just witnessed the NUMBER ONE defense in the NFL ...........dominate an entire football game......

bye the way......last i checked..... the bears were up 15-0

could you be so kind to post the final score........ :-)



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To: Jeff who wrote (377)9/21/1998 8:43:00 AM
From: puddinhead
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i sure can 27-15. Don't they sell newspapers up in cheeser country.
Oh, i'm sorry i forget you guys are considered a third world country.
if you need anymore info let me know.

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To: Jeff who wrote (377)9/21/1998 1:59:00 PM
From: SE
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A little late, but here it is.....

"Green Bay update, Friday 9/18"

by Jeff Ash

September 18, 1998

Greetings from Green Bay on another clear, calm, warm late-summer
day. This has been one of the most delightful summers ever,
reminiscent of the summer of '85, when it was sunny most days with
light rain only at night to keep everything green. This year is quite a
bit drier, though.

-- The Packers (2-0) play the Bengals (1-1) at Cinergy Field in
Cincinnati at noon Sunday, with the Greater Cincinnati Packer
Backers Club out in force. We were invited to join their group, but it
just didn't work out for us. Have a cold one and a warm brat for us,

-- Last week, the Packers beat the Buccaneers 23-15 at Lambeau
Field. More on that later.

-- Sunday's game is a regional Fox telecast, with Tim Ryan, Bill
Maas, and Ronnie Lott on the call. Hmmm. Might be a day to turn
off the TV sound and listen to Jim, Max and Larry as the farewell
tour for Jim and Max continues.

Here's the early forecast from Keith, our veteran Update
meteorologist in Norman, Okla.: Different city, same weather.
Mostly sunny, warm and humid. High in the mid 80s. Southwest
wind 10 mph. For an updated forecast, check Keith's web site at

And, of course, Keith's putrid poetry on the game:
Into the doghouse he's shooed,
Whenever the ball comes unglued;
His spirit is vervy,
And path of'en swervy,
He's Green Bay's surfer dude.

-- There really is only 1 story this week: RB Dorsey Levens' injury.

He broke the fibula, the small bone in the leg, just below the right
knee and badly sprained his right ankle when his leg was rolled
under him on a tackle by Bucs LB Derrick Brooks in the 4th quarter
of Sunday's game. He had surgery Wednesday to put a screw into
the ankle to hold the bones together facilitate healing of the

No one is certain how long Levens will be out. The Packers originally
said 6 weeks, but that clearly is optimistic. The Milwaukee Journal
Sentinel talked to the San Jose Sharks' team doctor, who said it
likely could be 6 weeks for the ankle ligaments alone, then at least
2 more weeks to get in shape in a best-case scenario. It could be up
to 3 months, meaning Levens wouldn't be back until mid-December.

A quote from coach Mike Holmgren: "We feel he's going to be back
and be a very vital part of our season, near the end of the season,
as it looks now, and I believe that's the way it's going to be."

-- So who will replace Levens at RB? This week, it looks like
Raymont Harris. He looked good in practice Wednesday, without the
limp he'd had in the previous 2 weeks, when he was left inactive on
game day. Travis Jervey is resting a sore hamstring, but don't rule
him out, either.

Sounds as if it'll be a game-day decision, but the coaches clearly
would be more comfortable with the veteran Harris. They wouldn't
have to change as much of the offensive scheme with him, but
Jervey is better at picking up blitzes and blocking accordingly. The
Packers expect to see lots of blitzes from the Bengals. Don't be
surprised to see both of them Sunday, with FB William Henderson
carrying the ball a little more than usual. That's the same approach
the Packers used in 1996 with Henderson, Edgar Bennett and a guy
who came on late in the season. Around December. A guy named
Levens. On the way to Super Bowl XXXI.

-- GM Ron Wolf is insisting that because the Packers have Harris,
they have no interest in any of the free-agent RBs. Among the
veterans out there are Terry Kirby, Rodney Hampton, Leeland
McElroy and Craig "Ironhead" Heyward.

-- The Packers have a roster spot open because LB Antonio London
is on injured reserve. He tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his
left knee in practice a week ago, will need surgery and will miss the
rest of the season. The Packers were bummed because London had
played well as a spot pass rusher and on special teams. His absence
means more playing time for Keith McKenzie, who had a big game
against the Bucs, and rookie Jude Waddy on special teams. The
Packers say they have no interest in adding a free-agent LB, such as
former Packers LB Ron Cox, Quentin Coryatt or Darion Conner.
Coryatt had shoulder surgery this week and likely will miss the
season anyway.

-- Looks as if Derrick Mayes and Bill Schroeder are about even as the
No. 3 WR. When Mayes blew an assignment against the Bucs,
Schroeder went in. Holmgren downplayed that, calling them "3A and
3B," with the edge to Mayes. Regardless, Mayes is a little touchy
about it, and doesn't want to discuss it.

-- The rebuilding of QB Rick Mirer is starting with his footwork as he
drops back to pass. In the Packers' offense, you have to do so a
certain way, given the route being run by the receivers. He spent his
1st week in the classroom, learning the offense.

-- Only 2 games into the season, the Packers are showing their
usual paranoia over injuries. When QB Brett Favre was being treated
for a shot to the ribs during the Lions game, they had guys standing
around him on the sideline, holding towels to prevent TV cameras
and anyone else from getting a peek at what was going on. Ditto for
the Bucs game and Levens' injury. Now, the players are forbidden to
talk about injuries, even their own. A quote from TE Mark Chmura,
who has a sore right Achilles tendon but will play Sunday: "I can't
say anything, I'm under strict orders not to talk about it. I'm just
following orders."

-- They can, however, talk about old injuries, and DE Reggie White
confessed Wednesday that he was sicker than anyone would admit
last year. We knew he had a bad back and pneumonia. We didn't
know he had a low white blood cell count and a rare lung disease
called sarcoidosis. The latter forms lumps in the lungs and causes
breathing problems. No one knows what causes it, and there's no
cure, but it often goes away and the person returns to normal, as
did White. It usually affects people ages 20 to 50 and more so

-- White hasn't completely ruled out returning next year. A quote
from him: "My mind is made up that this is my last year. But my
mind was made up after the Super Bowl. If God leaves me alone,
yes, this will be it."

-- LB Jim Nelson is back with the Packers, joining the practice
squad. Nelson, who wears No. 50, is a 6-1, 235-pounder out of Penn
State. He was let go in the 1st round of cuts in training camp. He
replaces CB Anthony Bass, who was waived after only a week.

-- The Packers waived DT Dexter Nottage off injured reserve after
reaching an injury settlement with him. Nottage injured a knee
during training camp.

-- CB Tyrone Williams will be looking for big money when his
contract expires in February, and has his eye on the 5-year, $17.2
million deal the Bucs gave to CB Donnie Abraham. A quote from
Williams: "Ain't nobody better than me in my (draft) year. ...
Probably 4 or 5 years is what I'm looking for." Williams' agent
expects to start talks this fall, and Wolf says the Packers would like
to sign Williams to a long-term deal.

-- The Packers have contacted the agents of Chmura and DT
Santana Dotson to start talks on extending their contracts. Other
players are likely to follow, particularly Henderson, WR Antonio
Freeman, RT Earl Dotson, LB George Koonce and RG Adam
Timmerman. The Packers are $1.78 million under the salary cap, and
can re-work others' deals, so some extensions could come yet this
season. Santana Dotson has hired former Packers DE Sean Jones as
his agent, so Jones has been around town quite a bit this season.

-- The Packers' share of the new Cleveland Browns' franchise fee will
be about $17 million. The Packers have talked about expanding
Lambeau Field by about 5,000 seats to about 66,000, but team
president Bob Harlan hinted last week that isn't a done deal,
especially now that Detroit and Denver are going to have smaller
stadiums. A quote from Harlan: "Detroit is going from 80,000 to
65,000 and the Broncos are going from 80,000 to about 72,000. All
at once our stadium size doesn't look all that bad."

-- Speaking of the Browns, because former 49ers president Carmen
Policy is their new president, there is speculation that Holmgren
might go there as coach and GM. For what it's worth, Policy said last
week that the Browns prefer to keep those jobs separate. Never say
never. The new Browns might be a contender immediately, because
they'll be allowed to spend plenty in the free-agent market and will
have lots of extra draft choices.

If Holmgren leaves after this year, the Packers will get a No. 2 draft
pick as compensation, according to a "well-placed source within the
NFL" quoted by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. It won't come from
the Browns, though. Their deal with the NFL says they can't use
draft picks to compensate other teams for hiring a coach. But don't
rule out the Browns because of that. Policy is terrific at finding ways
to accomplish what he wants.

-- Favre is on a Wheaties box being sold in Wisconsin and parts of

-- If you're coming to the Monday night game against the Vikings on
Oct. 5, it's the annual Packers wives' food drive. They'll accept cash
donations and non-perishable food items in the Lambeau Field
parking lot before the game.

Now, finally, a little about the Bucs game, played before 60,124 on
another warm day:

Tampa Bay 0 0 0 15 -- 15
Green Bay 10 6 0 7 -- 23

First quarter
Green Bay -- Ryan Longwell, FG, 38-yard field goal, 10 minutes left.
Green Bay -- Tyrone Davis, 10, pass from Favre (Longwell kick), 7:20

Second quarter
Green Bay -- Longwell, FG, 27, 7:51
Green Bay -- Longwell, FG, 20, 0:00

Fourth quarter
Green Bay -- Freeman, 38, pass from Favre (Longwell kick), 13:42
Tampa Bay -- Jacquez Green, 95, punt return (Patrick Hape, pass
from Trent Dilfer), 6:03
Tampa Bay -- Dave Moore, 2, pass from Dilfer (Michael Husted kick),

For more complete coverage and statistics, check the usual sites
listed below.

-- The defense continues to play well, especially against the run.
White had 3 sacks, overpowering Bucs RTs Jason Odom and Jerry
Wunsch, and continues to thrive in a rotation that sees McKenzie
and Vaughn Booker fill in on the line. A quote from White: "The way
we're rotating probably is the best thing that's happened to us up
front. One thing I think (is) that I feel comfortable enough in coming
out. I can trust Vaughn to come in and play well. I don't know if I
did that last year with anybody else coming in. But I can trust
Vaughn enough to say, 'OK, Vaughn, come on in' because he'll come
in and do a good job."

NT Gilbert Brown also is healthy, and benefits from spot play by Bob
Kuberski and Booker inside. A quote from Rick Spielman, the Bears'
pro scout: "Green Bay manhandled their people up front."

-- Davis' TD came on a new play, a short route on which he crosses
in front of Chmura to confuse the coverage. Indeed, Bucs LB Derrick
Brooks went the wrong way and Davis was wide open.

-- Another not-so-hot day for special teams, except for Schroeder's
nice leaping catch and dash out of bounds on an onside kick in the
4th quarter. Roell Preston and Mike Prior both muffed punts, causing
turnovers. Someone blew an assignment, so no one helped
Roosevelt Blackmon contain the Bucs' flyers, or downfield coverage
guys, on Preston's muff.

The Packers didn't like giving up Green's TD punt return, but didn't
get too worked up about it. A quote from special teams coach
Johnny Holland: "I wouldn't say we did anything that was really too
bad. The guy got a good running start, one of our cover guys slipped
at the tackling point and a couple other guys missed him." That
aside, the punt and kick coverage was better than against the Lions.

-- Holmgren wasn't pleased to learn after the game that Jervey
wasn't on the field during Green's TD punt return because of a
pulled hamstring. A quote from Holmgren on the day after: "I didn't
know it at the time, and I should. We will clear that up today.
Typically, we have a process for letting me know when guys can no
longer be in the football game. The excuse I'm getting is that at
times I'm unapproachable during the heat of battle." I imagine
getting the matter cleared up was a fairly interesting conversation.

-- Favre took a hard shot from Bucs DE Regan Upshaw, then got up
and good-naturedly got into Upshaw's face. A quote from Favre: "I
think I told him it was a pretty good hit, which it was, and at first it
really didn't hurt. It really never hurt, it just knocked me a little
goofy." Favre also took a couple of hard shots from DT Warren Sapp,
once when Sapp came in without his helmet.

Holmgren wasn't thrilled with that, either. He wants Favre to duck or
throw away the ball rather than getting hit. A quote from Holmgren:
"I had a little moment with him. It's like he wants to win every
battle and loses sight of the war at times. He'll tell me what I want
to hear at that particular moment. We play this little game. I yell at
him a little bit an he says 'Don't worry about it.' It's OK until the
next time. ... There's a little frustration for me."

-- CB Craig Newsome had a little trouble early with the footing, but
changed cleats and was fine after that.

-- The only other injury not mentioned so far: Timmerman
overheated and cramped up in the legs, but he's fine.

-- The Packers' inactive players were Harris, Mirer, C Mike Flanagan,
G Mike Wahle, WR Corey Bradford and DEs Jonathan Brown and Billy

-- The Bucs were really down after the game, sensing that the
Packers might have wanted the game more. A quote from coach
Tony Dungy: "They just played with more determination than we did
today. We're further behind. It's a step backward."

-- Finally, we have the strange story of Dr. Raoul. He was arrested
Sunday in the Bucs' locker room about 2 hours before kickoff. The
FBI is helping local police figure out why Raoul Farhat, 36, of
Clearwater, Fla., was in the locker room, claiming to be a Bucs team
doctor. He's not with us, the Bucs say. Farhat was carrying a
medical bag full of marijuana. Lambeau Field workers later found a
duffel bag with Farhat's passport, credit cards, $3,700 in travelers
checks, a $52,000 cashier's check made out to him, and, oh, yeah,
$112,000 in cash. When Farhat was booked into the Brown County
Jail, they found a disposable camera stuffed down the front of his
pants. The developed film showed an empty stadium. Needless to
say, Farhat is not telling the cops what he is up to. He is being held
on felony burglary charges for stealing a Bucs cap and NFL Game
Day shirt from the locker room, and is due back in court today.

And now, the viewer mail:

-- Mike at RAF Croughton, England, passes word that next week's
Packers-Panthers game is scheduled to be shown live on the Sky
Sports pay satellite network in England and parts of Europe. It
starts at 9 p.m. England time, 10 p.m. continental Europe time.

-- Mark in Lansing, Mich., passes along the latest Packers emoticon:
gg:-) That, of course, is a geeshead.

-- Dylan asks whether Packers games are being aired live on Real
Audio. Not that I am aware of. If you know more, drop me a line.
Others will want to know, too.

-- Barb and Eric are new to Philadelphia and are seeking fellow
Packers fans. They're at

-- Dave is new to Atlanta's eastern suburbs and is seeking a place
to watch the games. He's at

As always, your questions and comments are welcome at

This week's sources: Green Bay Press-Gazette
(, Milwaukee
Journal Sentinel ( and
Packers ( web pages.

-- This week's adventures with Evan: Our little guy is into big, wet
kisses these days. I can't leave for work without going through a
specific routine: "Dad, I want to give you a big hug, an Eskimo nose
and a big kiss." Then we have to do it once more just to make sure
we have done it right. ... His front teeth appear to be fine after his
wipeout at the playground a couple of weeks ago. Still not perfectly
lined up anymore, but no apparent damage. ... Evan also is getting
much more verbal. Today, he told me: "Dad, the next time we go to
Toys R Us, would you like to look at the Power Wheels with me?" He
then proceeded to tell me that he found a police truck, but that the
lights didn't work because it didn't have a battery, and it didn't have
pedals, either. ... We visited Duluth, Minn., last weekend, and Evan
found lots of stuff he loves. Our hotel was right on Lake Superior
and there are lake freighters to see and a bridge that goes up to let
the boats pass under. He heard boat whistles and train whistles and
even got a short train ride, on which he got to walk all over, even
getting to open the door between cars to see the engine. In the
depot, they had a much-loved Thomas the Tank Engine play set. As
we left our hotel, Evan said to Janet: "Mom, I love the Hampton

We were in Duluth for the North Shore Inline Marathon, a 26.2-mile
race along the Lake Superior shore from Two Harbors southwest to
Duluth. If you are a runner, you may recognize this as the
Grandma's Marathon course. When I left the hotel at 5:15 a.m. to
catch the shuttle bus, I was delighted to find a strong wind off the
lake. Tailwind. The race, my first, was great fun. The last couple of
miles are on the closed I-35 in downtown Duluth, going through 3
tunnels. I finished in 1:46.22, averaging slightly less than 15 mph,
just out of the top third among the 2,540 entrants. Must have been
my bright gold Packers workout shorts. If you are curious, you can
check it out on the Web. They had a live race cam, and you can see
part of me as I approach the finish line. Go to and click on the link to the 1998
race pictures area. Then select the 9:00 batch, then the picture at
09:36:10. That's me in the bright gold shorts at left, just exiting the
picture. Thanks to Mark, who brought the Sunday paper from Duluth
home to Green Bay for me so I could check out the coverage.

That's it.

As usual, if you wish to show your appreciation for these Packers
updates, volunteer or make a donation to the charity of your choice.

Thanks, Jeff

Look for the updates on Fridays at

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To: SE who wrote (379)9/25/1998 9:44:00 PM
From: SE
   of 1150
A bit more timely.

September 25, 1998

Greetings from Green Bay on a sunny, mild first week of fall.

-- The Packers (3-0) play the Panthers (0-2) at Ericsson Stadium in
Charlotte, N.C., at noon Sunday.

-- Last week, the Packers beat the Bengals 13-6 at Cinergy Field in
Cincinnati. More on that later.

-- Sunday's game is a regional Fox telecast, with Pat Summerall and
John Madden on the call.

Here's the early forecast from Keith, our veteran Update
meteorologist in Norman, Okla.: Another city, same weather. Partly
cloudy after morning fog, warm and humid. High in the mid 80s.
Light south wind. For an updated forecast, check Keith's web site at

And, of course, Keith's putrid poetry on the game:
Nothin' could be finer,
Than to sit in my recliner,
To twist open a brew,
And watch Brett and his crew,
Bomb Capers and Panthers to Chiner.

-- WR Robert Brooks' back is still bothering him. He sat out practice
Wednesday and Thursday after sitting out 2 days last week. He
played less against the Bengals than he had in the 1st 2 games,
playing in all of 5 series, part of 2 others and sitting 2 out. Expect a
similarly light load against the Panthers. The Packers are hoping the
extra rest will help Brooks later in the season. He had arthroscopic
surgery in early August to ease the pain in his lower back. A quote
from coach Mike Holmgren: "I'm concerned a little bit, yeah. That's
why we're putting him through this program now."

When Brooks is out, Derrick Mayes and Bill Schroeder step up to
replace him, but that could mean more double teams for Antonio
Freeman unless he moves over to flanker. The Packers haven't done
so yet. When the Packers go to a 4-WR set without Brooks, Roell
Preston fills in as the No. 4 WR.

-- Special teams coach Johnny Holland thinks he's figured out what's
wrong with punt and kickoff coverage. They're getting held up on
blocks too long, and the flyers (the 1st coverage men downfield) are
getting out of their lanes and out of position to make tackles. So,
they'll adjust that, but no word on whether starters will be used to
firm up the special teams. Holmgren admits he's thought about
that, but doesn't really want to do so.

-- The Packers brought in a left-footed punter, Will Brice, for a
workout this week to give Preston a chance to work on fielding such
punts. He had lots of trouble against the Bengals' lefty, Lee
Johnson, fumbling once and letting 3 other catchable balls hit the
ground and bounce past for a total of 36 yards. Panthers P Ken
Walter also is left-footed.

GM Ron Wolf took some of the blame for Preston's woes on punt
returns, saying he should have brought in a left-footed punter for a
tryout a week earlier to help Preston. A quote from Wolf: "I don't
think there's any salvaging to do. It's a matter of getting him
prepared. It's really my own personal fault that the guy probably
didn't do that well. That is a difficult punter to field. He's left-footed
and he's a directional punter. He kicks away and the guy has to run
to the ball."

A quote from Preston after the game: "I think I was probably playing
it too safe. I probably should have fair-caught them, but we were
winning and I didn't want to make no circus catches. So I'd rather be
safe than sorry."

Preston also fumbled a punt against the Bucs and is not far from
Holmgren's dog house. A quote from Holmgren: "You only get so
many shots at it. Right now, he's going to get another shot at it,
but you don't get too many chances." No word on who might return
punts if Preston loses his job. Preston's job on kickoff returns is

-- The Packers don't seem worried by their slow start on offense.
They figure it's just a matter of working out the early-season bugs,
making minor adjustments and getting their timing down. A quote
from LG Marco Rivera: "The holes are there. We just have to get
more precise with the whole running game."

-- Look for TE Mark Chmura to take advantage of Carolina's 3-4 zone
blitz defense, in which LBs blitz and a DL drops back in coverage. A
quote from Packers offensive coordinator Sherman Lewis: "They are
expecting a lineman to drop out and sometimes it's hard to find the
TE. (QB) Brett (Favre) has done a good job of hitting the hot man
and Chewy stays alert. It kind of discourages the blitzes a little bit,

-- Because Panthers offensive coordinator Gil Haskell spent 6 years
in Green Bay and is so familiar with Holmgren's offense, the Packers
will change some of their audibles and snap counts on Sunday.
They'll also do so against the 49ers and Eagles in November.

-- NT Gilbert Brown missed Thursday's practice but will play Sunday.
He, like me, has a little bit of a cold.

-- T John Michels had knee surgery 3 weeks ago, and was to start
rehabilitating it with weights this week. He blew out the anterior
cruciate ligament in his right knee during camp in August.

-- RB Lawrence Phillips worked out for the Packers on Wednesday.
He looked good, but the Packers aren't expected to sign another RB
unless there's another injury at that position, or if Travis Jervey's
pulled hamstring doesn't heal quickly. Jervey likely won't play
Sunday. The Packers also took a look at free agents Derek Brown,
Tim Hall and Leeland McElroy. They wanted a look at Craig
"Ironhead" Heyward, but couldn't set up a workout date.

A quote from Reggie McKenzie, the Packers' director of pro
personnel: "We're not going to sign anybody at this time. It was
just one of those deals where we wanted to look at some people
and find out where they are from a conditioning standpoint in case
we have to make a move at a later time."

Phillips, of course, has had lots of off-field troubles in college in
Nebraska and in the NFL at St. Louis and Miami, mostly involving
alcohol and the physical abuse of women. Rams coach Dick Vermeil
had to apologize last week for even considering bringing Phillips
back. Bear in mind, though, that the Packers already have taken
chances on a troubled Nebraska player (CB Tyrone Williams) and a
player with a bad reputation (WR Andre Rison in 1996), so you
shouldn't necessarily rule out Phillips. The Packers have faith in
their coaching staff and veteran leaders to work with troubled

-- Regardless, the Packers needed another RB just to practice
properly, so they signed Pepe Pearson for the practice squad. He's
an undrafted rookie who was waived by the 49ers on the 1st round
of cuts in training camp, then was cut from the Jaguars' practice
squad earlier this month. He's 22, 5-10, 208, out of Ohio State. To
make room for him, the Packers cut TE Anthony McKinney.

-- The Packers signed SS Kerry Cooks a week ago to fill the roster
spot left open when LB Antonio London went on injured reserve.
Cooks was cut by the Vikings when they had to sign QB Jay Fiedler
after starter Brad Johnson got hurt. Cooks, who wears No. 20, is
5-11, 202, a rookie out of Iowa. The Packers most like his
intelligence, tackling and man-to-man coverage skills. He was the
Vikings' 5th-round pick, going just 6 picks before the Packers picked
WR Corey Bradford, and Wolf said the Packers would have taken
Cooks had he been available.

-- For what it's worth, the Packers are 1st in run defense in the NFL,
8th in pass defense and 2nd in overall defense. A quote from
Holmgren: "Up front, when our guys are healthy, we can play a real
fine run defense. In the Super Bowl, it was just the opposite." The
Packers have allowed only 163 yards rushing in 3 games.

-- Meanwhile, the Packers are last in the NFL in running offense. A
quote from RT Earl Dotson: "It's been all defense so far. They're
playing great right now and carrying us. That's how it was last year.
We had our moments and then at the end both the offense and
defense started clicking. Hopefully, it will turn out that way this

-- Favre met Cardinals slugger Mark McGwire and took batting
practice with the Brewers when the 2 teams played in Milwaukee a
week ago. A quote from Favre, on McGwire: "He asked me for a few
pointers. He wanted to know how to hit one out to right."

Favre hit 16 HRs in high school, but didn't go long against Brewers
manager Phil Garner, who offered this scouting report: "I'll tell you
what, as a baseball player, he's a hell of a QB." Favre insisted
Garner was bringing the heat and "must have been throwing 70."
Uh, well, not really. Another quote from Garner: "He couldn't reach
the pitch away. He was bailing a little bit. So, I had to try to get it
in his sweet zone. I'm trying to hit his bat, in other words."

Favre's 9-year-old daughter, Brittany, helped him throw out the 1st
pitch. He watched her warm up and said: "She's a little wild. I don't
know where that came from."

-- Green Bay's new Main Street bridge will be dedicated Friday, Oct.
2, as the Ray Nitschke Bridge. It's going to be a big bash, from the
dedication ceremony at 1:30 p.m. to the bridge lighting ceremony at
10 p.m., with live music all day and night. For more details, check
out Keith's Nitschke tribute page at

-- The strange story of Dr. Raoul is getting a little clearer. Raoul
Farhat, 36, of Clearwater, Fla., was arrested earlier this month in
the Bucs' locker room about 2 hours before kickoff at Lambeau Field,
claiming to be a Bucs team doctor. He was carrying a medical bag
full of marijuana. Lambeau Field workers later found a duffel bag
with Farhat's passport, credit cards, $3,700 in travelers checks, a
$52,000 cashier's check made out to him, and $112,000 in cash. The
FBI got involved when they saw that much cash involved, and are
holding Farhat on federal wire fraud charges related to what they
believe is some kind of financial scam. Before he skipped out on his
hotel bill at the Hampton Inn in Appleton, he used a fax machine
under false pretenses to get a loan from a Florida lender, and the
feds frown on that.

Now, finally, a little about the Bengals game:

Green Bay 7 3 0 3 -- 13
Cincinnati 3 3 0 0 -- 6

First quarter
Cincinnati -- Doug Pelfrey, FG, 37, 10:49 left.
Green Bay -- Brooks, 16, pass from Favre (Ryan Longwell kick), 6:21
Second quarter
Green Bay -- Longwell, FG, 30, 9:58
Cincinnati -- Pelfrey, FG, 19, 0:00
Fourth quarter
Green Bay -- Longwell, FG, 35, 13:41

For more complete coverage and statistics, check the usual sites
listed below.

-- Bengals WR Carl Pickens, who earlier in the week said he'd be
hosting a victory party after Cincinnati's win over Green Bay, was
nowhere to be found for comment after his club's loss. A quote from
SS LeRoy Butler: "It ticked a lot of our guys off when they said they
were going to have a party."

-- The game turned when the Packers stopped the Bengals on 1st
and goal from the Green Bay 4 near the end of the 1st half. They
stopped RB Corey Dillon on 2nd down from the 1, then foiled QB Jeff
Blake on the option on 3rd down, forcing Pelfrey's field goal as time
ran out.

After that, it was all Packers, holding the Bengals to only 28 yards
rushing, just 7 1st downs and just 4 of 15 on 3rd-down conversions.
A quote from Butler: "We were -- let me say this slow now --
impenetrable. That's how we felt. No matter what we did, what
coverage we had, we felt confident we could get it done."

A quote from Bengals coach Bruce Coslet: "They whipped us pretty
good. We couldn't get our running game together at all. They held
us to under 2 yards per carry for the 1st time in a long, long time.
We got them to turn over the ball, but their defense rose to the
occasion. We couldn't get anything moving."

-- The defense's dominance affected even the offensive calls for the
Packers. Late in the 4th quarter, Holmgren let Favre go for it on 4th
and 3 from the Bengals' 33, rather than letting Longwell try a
50-yarder because he figured the defense could hold from the 33
even it the Packers didn't make the 1st down. The Bengals would
have gotten the ball at their own 40 had Longwell missed. Even
though Favre was sacked for a 12-yard loss, the defense still held
when the Bengals went 4 and out from their own 45.

Longwell had made a 58-yarder in warmups, but didn't mind being
passed over. A quote from him: "Can I make a 52-yarder, hell, yeah.
But I also understand the game. That's not the time for a 52-yarder.
They could block it or it could get messed up. I understand his

-- 2 more sacks for speed rusher Keith McKenzie. But as good as the
defense played, FS Darren Sharper and CB Tyrone Williams dropped
potential interceptions.

-- The Bengals blitzed Favre all day, and he played it safe, taking
only what was there. A quote from him: "I didn't take any chances.
If a guy was open and I had a chance to complete it to him, I threw
it. If he wasn't, I threw it away or put it where they couldn't catch
it. Or I took a sack. ... The older you get the more you learn. You
have to understand every time that you step out on the field you're
not going to make a drive and score. Sure, I'd like to score more
points today and have more touchdowns. But you can't make
mistakes, and you have to do just enough to win. Earlier in my
career, I did press some, throw into coverage and try to make
something happen when it wasn't there. I didn't do that today."

A quote from Holmgren, on Favre: "Today, he held the team
together. We were down to about 1 back, 2 backs ... whatever it
was there for a while."

-- Raymont Harris started at RB and went most of the way, gaining
76 yards on 24 carries. He looked good, getting tough extra yardage
by diving forward at the end of a few runs. He missed only 4 plays
after getting his bell rung midway through the 3rd quarter. With
Jervey out with a pulled hamstring, the Packers went to a 1-back
offense with FB William Henderson.

A quote from Harris, who fumbled once in the 4th quarter: "I was a
little rusty. There were a couple of things I wanted to do but
(couldn't) just because of not having a lot of reps in a game
situation." He was bummed about the fumble: "Unfortunately, I
made a mistake, a crucial mistake, fumbling that ball. I'm not that
kind of player, I'm not the kind of person that puts the ball on the
ground. When I did that, I was so down."

A quote from Wolf, on Harris: "I really think we can win with him.
He's a between-the-tackles runner who gains tough yardage. He did
exactly what we thought he'd do."

-- If Chmura had it to do over, he wouldn't hurdle a Bengals
defender. A quote from him: "That wasn't a good move. I thought I
broke my nose. I landed on my face. I don't think I'll be doing that
anymore. Once he had my back leg and I saw the ground coming up
to my face, I knew I was in trouble."

-- A nice game for P Sean Landeta, whose 72-yarder was the longest
since Ray Stachowicz's 72-yarder against the Rams in 1981.

-- The Packers are 3-0 for the 12th time in their history and have
won 8 straight regular-season games for the 1st time since 1963.

-- If Longwell makes a FG against the Panthers, he'll tie the Packers'
record of FGs in 12 straight games. Chris Jacke and Jan Stenerud
hold the mark.

And now, the only piece of viewer mail. Boy, not even reports from
the Greater Cincinnati Packer Backers telling me what I missed at
their bash:

-- Joe in St. Charles, Mo., tells why the Packers' radio broadcasts
aren't available on Real Audio: "I contacted WTMJ, as well as the
NFL itself. My understanding is that because each broadcast ...
'cannot be rebroadcast in any way without express written
permission' (from the Packers and the NFL), it thus forbids
transmission via alternative means of communication -- in this case,
Real Audio on the web. I pleaded that broadcast rights should
encompass radio as well, (so) Packer bars thoughout the country
and world could tune in the Packer Radio Network via a computer,
pipe it into the house system, and then we could all be in paradise.
WTMJ told me that this might change when the NFL renegotiated TV
rights last year, but that obviously didn't happen."

As always, your questions and comments are welcome at

This week's sources: Green Bay Press-Gazette
(, Milwaukee
Journal Sentinel ( and
Packers ( web pages.

This week's soundtrack: Working the blues with "Blonde and Blue"
by Texas singer Angela Strehli, "Let's Work Together," the 1995 live
album by George Thorogood and the Destroyers, and "Reconsider
Baby," a 1985 compilation of blues tunes by Elvis Presley. The latter
is one of my all-time faves partly because of the great content, but
partly because I have it on blue vinyl.

-- This week's adventures with Evan: We were watching Sunday's
game in the basement as usual, and Evan is calling out the players'
numbers. Then he asks where "coach Holmgren" is. When they show
him a short while later, I point him out. Evan checks it out, then
grabs his Packers baseball cap and puts it on. Then he roots around
the basement and comes up with a headset radio and puts it over
the cap, announcing "I'm coach Holmgren." Fortunately, he left it on
long enough to allow pictures to be taken. ... I've been on vacation
at home for a few days, and we had a special treat the other night.
We often go to Dairy Queen or Hansen's, the local ice cream place,
for ice cream after supper when I'm home, but we decided instead
to stay in. I'd gotten some cookies-and-cream frozen yogurt, which
Evan had never had. Discovering that you can eat ice cream with
cookies in it was so swell that Evan looked up at me after shoveling
in a spoonful, his root-beer brown eyes wide open and a big, blissful
closed-mouth smile on his face. ... As 3-year-olds are wont to be,
Evan can be Mr. Bossy. Last night, he informed me in no uncertain
terms as I was putting him to bed: "Do not walk out of this room
without getting me some water in my red Elmo cup."

That's it.

A housekeeping note: If you go to the main page for the updates
(, you'll see
we've posted all of the updates from 1998. That's enough of an
archive. But if you think there is a need for even more back issues,
drop me a line telling me why.

As usual, if you wish to show your appreciation for these Packers
updates, volunteer or make a donation to the charity of your choice.

Thanks, Jeff

Look for the updates on Fridays at

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To: SE who wrote (380)9/30/1998 7:30:00 PM
From: SE
   of 1150
Scope this out...way cool!


Check out on Thursday to view Lambeau Cam! Lambeau
Cam provides an up to the minute look at what's happening inside the home
of the Green Bay Packers, Lambeau Field. It's like a seat on the 50-yard
line, it's Lambeau Cam!

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To: SE who wrote (381)10/1/1998 8:51:00 PM
From: SE
   of 1150
...and the direct link to Lambeau Cam.


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