| To: IngotWeTrust who wrote (75725) | 8/31/2001 11:02:18 PM | | From: E. Charters | | | | Mickey Mouse Divorce Petition.
In the State of California Mickey Mouse, vs. Minnie Mouse, a petition for divorce and dissolution of marital status.
(The Judge enters the court and speaks.)
[Judge] "We have before the court a petition for divorce by Mickey Mouse who wishes to divorce his wife of 80 years, Minnie Mouse. Mr Mouse, will you step forward?"
[Mickey] "Yes, sir judge, that's me. Here I am.!"
[Judge] "Well, Mr. Mouse, we acknowledge your petition and your desire to divorce your wife, Minnie, but you must understand that in the State of California the insanity of a spouse is not considered adequate grounds to issue a divorce decree. You state that your wife is crazy, but irrespective of that, we cannot look at that as a reason to issue a decree."
[Mickey] "I didn't say she was crazy, I said she was f-----g Goofy!"
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| To: baystock who wrote (75744) | 9/1/2001 1:11:27 AM | | From: Rarebird | | | | | Wall Street is on the verge of capitulating; that is to say, giving up on equities. Gold is the alternative investment of last resort for most people. The investment demand needed to push the POG considerably higher will come after Wall Street loses all hope and surrender is achieved as the Bear kills the USD. It is going to happen. The process has already started. I give the USD 4 months at most before it breaks below 100. |
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| To: long-gone who wrote (75745) | 9/1/2001 1:25:53 AM | | From: d:oug | | | | Richard, Gata Bill's answer to Tim Wood's question "Where is gold's Patton?"
Two short comments by me.
1. Not too difficult to notice today that ole49r's gold_tutor
is once again giving herself wiggle room to distance herself
from her past comments that will in the near future show that
she was in error in fact and judgment. Nothing new here,
she has done this repeatedly starting from when it became
clear to her and all those who interacted with her that she could
and did without hesitation, out think/talk/accomplish with gusto,
every boy girl and most grown-ups in a hundred mile distance.
Now if you think about what i just said above, then surely this view
does not follow logic and reason in the sense that alls good and well
and very correct in that this description seems to have a round peg
inside a square hole where the surface area is the same.
For those who do not understand what i have just spoken about
reside in one of two catagories, either they wish not to understand
these specifics, or they are of a nature that this type of learning
is alien to what is learnable, and for both cases this post is babble,
of no worth.
Unlike my other posts where i would directly enter that place where
the Light of TruTh would be Switched On by me, this situation is
quite different in that while Gata Bill tried unsuccessfully for years
to obtain the following reaction to ole49r, that saying from the movie
and book i never saw or read "Gone with the Wind" i think it was
where a doctor Zeev-got-o in Russia during the revolution or something
said "Frankly me dear i do not give a damn." to a lady, and i have
heard that it was a very long book to read. But anyway Gata Bill
luckly escaped from that living nightmare of never being able to in
his minds overcome as in overpower ole49r. Yes Gata Bill finally
arrived at another and actually better place, one that removed him
from the ole49r battle of minds where he has not the stuff or insight
into how to just once for the first time get the better of ole49r.
No more, as in no more battles does Bill have with her, nope as
Bill left that zero sum no winners only losers interactions. Yes, now
Bill has done an Ayn Rand novel person type reaction to her.
"What do you think of me now?" "I don't think of you."
Yes, its now of a non un zero empty reaction to ole49r,
as today she (from above) "... wiggle room to distance herself... "
with her asking a question of how can a Gata success be measured.
First we all know that when gold_tutor asks a question like this
that she already has her answer, and for us its really a trap she set
to have us supply an answer knowing that she already has a reply
for any common sense reply from us to belittle it and throw it back
into our faces, and thusly she is correct and we is in error and finally
she has once again once again etc.
For those who do wish to reply to her, simply say that its an easy,
yes easy to determine a Gata success, use The Duck Test.
If the Reg Howe Complaint in Massachusetts Federal District Court
on October 9 goes forward, then that in itself will give a Green Light
to what is supplied below as Gata's answer to the Tim Wood's question,
as in once the Powers that Be are "on the ropes," then they themselves
have that almost unlimited corrupt power striped away, with result
that both Powers of Good & Evil can do of what is described below
is the stuff they can not do.
If this court case is stopped, then Gata will find that everything
will take on a different appearance, in that the Powers that Be
will do what it takes to undo their corrupt so that no market crash
or economy fall will happen as they place the hurt and blame onto
anything not them, with the cooperation and coordination of those
Powers that Be that Tim Wood wonders about.
Waiting and watching they are, and what happens October 9 will
determine what they do, and they know in either case they will be part
of the undo'ing and will obtain their pound of flesh, as in if the court case
goes into discovery then the pound will come from the guilty ones,
and if not then the pound will be served by the guilty ones after they
obtain a pound from innocents.
2. too much, enough said
groups.yahoo.com
groups.yahoo.com
Tim,
... a response to your latest missive...
... [a trader] figured out a way to corner the silver market.
... their chairman at the time was Warren Buffet.
... going into option expiry day...
The shorts panicked.
... Warren Buffet received a call from the U.S. Treasury
... was told that squeezing the silver market was not a good idea.
They did not tell Warren Buffet not to do so.
They said that he could very well win the silver battle,
but... would LOSE the war...
Warren Buffet knew just what the U.S. Treasury and Government meant.
Squeeze silver and you will have every government agency[up your butt]...
End of story.
Tim, that is why no gold Patton has shown up yet.
I could go on and on, but I hope I have made my point.
If there is a Patton, it is GATA.
We have been at this 3 years.
We knew the scoop that long ago.
Where is the rest of the gold world?
Why have they not been willing at least to acknowledge
the overwhelming evidence GATA has assimilated?
Why won't they even talk about it or suggest that the press do so.
Even so, the tide has changed.
Make no mistake about it.
First you, then John Hathaway, now the FT Story
about the BIS trying to explain the gold loan picture.
Oh, excuse me, Giacomo Panizutti - Head of Foreign Exchange
and Gold at the Bank for International Settlements -
was only speaking as a private citizen.
Can you imagine an IBM senior executive making a statment like that?
GATA's orginal two man army has grown into the thousands.
Not a day goes by that one of them does not find more evidence
regarding the manipulation of the gold market, dis-information
supplied to the gold world or specific instances of gold
"cover-up" redactions in FOMC minutes.
Not a day goes by when one of GATA's army is not contacting
their members of Congress to go directly to the U.S. Treasury
Secretary to supply answers to reasonable gold questions
asked by the American public.
There is a Patton out there.
It is those inspired citizens all of the world
that care about free markets, the truth and,
what used to be, the American Way.
Like the bulldog Patton, the GATA army is winning the day
with our own "ENVELOPING HORN" strategy,
fashioned after Africa's greatest General, Shaka.
Based on the presenations over the last 3 weeks,
it could not be more clear that GATA is now on the offensive.
The Gold Cartel is backpeddling - most likely,
terrified of what is happening, knowing that the hearing
in the Reg Howe Complaint in Massachusetts Federal District Court
faces them on October 9.
GATA's free man army is utilizing the battle tactics
of Shaka with the determination of a General Patton.
That is why we are winning.
It is only a matter of time before "The Big Money" gets behind us.
Reason: The U.S. Treasury is going to be spending too much time
defending itself - than to take on the investment world
who will realize the Treasury is stuck in the most despicable
American financial scandal in U.S. history.
All the best,
Bill Murphy
CHAIRMAN, GOLD ANTI-TRUST ACTION COMMITTEE
Le Patron, Le Metropole Cafe |
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| To: long-gone who wrote (75745) | 9/1/2001 7:13:43 AM | | From: Square_Dealings | | | | That article is BS.
Yesterday was a shortened trading session ahead of a long weekend. The basis of the article seems to be that since gold didnt break out yesterday that its not going to go up.
The foreign currencies took a hit yesterday as the US tried to defend the edge of the big cliff for the dollar. The "ammunition" was another doctored government report showing factory orders up 0.1% for the month. LOL
"I can already hear the phones ringing off the hook in the Hamptons as the shorts' stops get burned out at each level – on Labor
Day weekend. That's ledge leaping stuff."
Its also BS to think that all the big players in the market are on vacation and asleep at the wheel. Everyone is here playing the game. We are at important crossroads in the US stock market, currencies and gold.
M. |
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| To: goldsheet who wrote (58003) | 9/1/2001 8:50:43 AM | | From: IngotWeTrust | | | | Bob, on Sept 8, 2000, you replied to BD: "Too simple, because most of the supply defecit is filled by scrap (annual average of 507mt over the last ten years) not central banks (average annual of 260mt) There is only one year (1992) when central banks dumped more than scrap. As for primary mine production, it went from 2127 in 1990 to 2569 in 1999. That "extra" 442mt, as it continues into the future, still beats annual central banks selling. Central banks only have about 1 billion ounces available for sale, and most will not get sold. Miners have about 700 million ounces proven and probable, and another 900 milllion ounces of measured and indicated,...
Would you be inclined, please to update those year old statistics, especially those related to the last year's annual scrap (and for the sake of this forgetful convert, remind me how many ounces are in a metric tonne of gold...I get long tonnes and short tons but the metric one escapes me.) Thanks.
I look forward to your update--publically or privately.
gold_tutor |
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| To: d:oug who wrote (75748) | 9/1/2001 9:59:12 AM | | From: IngotWeTrust | | | | Ur a scream, ak ak!! By your ridiculous assertion that I'm creating wiggle room, you have blatantly admitted you, too are new to the Smurf game. Altho' ---with the length of your unending silly posts---, it seems like you have been on this thread forever, I'll grant you that one!.
No GPM old-timer--in their right mind-- would ever accuse me of distancing myself from ole Smurf... in fact...I've been on his a$$ about his fundraising tactics and lack of fiscal transparency since about 3 seconds after he secured his not-for-profit status, which hides his fiscal accountability from ALL outsiders under N-4-P archane IRS regulations.
My most recent pointed post about his latest fund-raising twist was just last week if you recall in your "altered state"...I posted about the tactical error absurdity of Bill asking people to use [plastic] derivatives to fund his attack on the evil paper [gold] derivatives game.
Secondly, you yourself recall my repeated postings for about 5 weeks solid where I publically posted the 11 questions he wouldn't answer. These were the days BEFORE Doug ak ak showed up, back when Smurf did his own touting. Smurf's refusal to answer the call for direct answers pretty much coincided with his decision to quit posting publically. Talk about a duck...that was one major duck and run, lateral for the sidelines and mommy Veneroso if I ever saw one!
And while we're talking about ducks and ducking...I seem to recall you JOINED me for a spell, there, publically, right here on this GPM thread after you climbed aboard, and also calling for Bill Murphy to be OPENLY and PUBLICALLY TRANSPARENT re: fiscally accountable for his GATA finances. So, now WHO is the tiger changing his stripes to look more like a friendly pussycat now?....tsk tsk tsk, ak ak.
Thirdly, I've already been receiving PM's from GPM threaders with their responses to my startling survey question: What does a GATA win look like to you.
So hate to disappoint you, ak ak, but I haven't browbeat a single one, nor belittled a single respondent, nor provided a rebuttal. Sorry, pal...You just struck out--Again.
I did find one respondent's cryptic reply: "When I see gold at $399" of interest--no time frame or duration of that price level volunteered, just that single phrase typed into the PM box.
So, instead of blowing more Smurf Smoke, why not take a stab at answering the 2 questions:
1) What does a GATA win look like to you? What does it mean to you, to your family, to your nation?
2) What is Bill's Murphy's definition of a GATA Win?
Tim Wood's is right...this GATA Yakka and gold bears grousing has no meaningful action that $550 mil funded pro-active action plan wouldn't cure in a hurry. And $550 mil is chump change to the Soros' of this world!
Like a good "gold_tutor" I'm giving you the final exam 2 test essay questions to you several weeks prior to the end of the term. How's that for being a good Gold Professor?
Here's some "thought seeds" incase this 2 question final exam is too hard fer ya...
What Does a Gata win look like to you?
I consider Gata has won when...
When I see gold at ____________
When I see Alan G or _____________ in jail?
When I see no more short selling permitted, i.e., the comex contract outlawed, or the CFTC dismantled?
When I see Rothschilds on the corner with pencils in a cup?
When I see Fort Knox supplies with my own two eyes?
When __________________
And "thought seeds" for the Smurf's definition of a GATA win as defined by his public and private written and verbal broadcasts only??
When employment percentages fall in So. Africa by __________
When Reg Howe gets HIS BIS share valuation [bid-ask spread of almost $9,000] rip off restored as an individual?
When _______________ (make that line as long as you want, and use extra paper if you like.)
You just don't get it, do you?
So, while you are still protecting "Bill's Horn" , I'm still camped on his a$$, where I've been since about forever...
He, Smurf, and James Turk-ey et al, are just discovering the labryinth of subterranean governmental deep storage re-labelling accounting tricks. Now, THAT's a brand new phenom, no? Or haven't you ever heard of re-stated financials back xyz years from other major businesses/corporations, voluntary or otherwise?
So, while there is still no fiscal, public accountability past, current, nor in the foreseable future it would appear, and he's made the tactical political error of soliciting plastic derivatives to fight evil paper derivatives,
I now ask: what does a Gata Win Look like to YOU, Doug. And what does Bill say a Gata win looks like?.
So here we have a guy promoting use of plastic derivs to fight evil gold paper derivs
and
hiding behind lack of public fiscal disclosure while attacking lack of US Treasury and F/R lack of transparency?
As Dr. Phil sez, each Tuesday on the Oprah show: "How's that working for ya?"
Can this get any funnier? |
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| To: d:oug who wrote (75748) | 9/1/2001 10:47:01 AM | | From: IngotWeTrust | | | | Do U recall posting this, ak ak?
To:Bill Murphy who wrote (35604)
From: Doug A K
Sunday, Jun 20, 1999 10:23 PM
View Replies (1) | Respond to 35621 of 75753 Yes this is Gold Price Monitor Thread Number
[snip--open quote]
about gold about dreams and about nightmares
gold-eagle.com.
Bill, below is a short version of above, and those who think you are yelling
fire in a crowded threater, or simply saying wolf for attention, they should
read this other opinion of a possible since if it does come true, then all
hell is going to break loose and all you could then say is I told you so.
That phrase I have heard many time: Better a year early than a day late.
Eventho I like the gold standard concept, whether or not it will be revisited
by governments is not my concern since I prepared long ago to be insulated,
and even a USA or world depression will not touch me.
I'am invested in a gold mine in Mongolia, and even tho political games are
currently being played there to protect criminal insiders from paying their
dues, I have hope for this Canadian company, but price of gold is an issue,
and thats why I support GATA. This economic and political stuff not only is
not my bag, but I find it very uninteresting, and only did the gold mine
company by chance thru a prior just by chance out of curiosity.
The stuff on your Le Metropole Cafe to me is something I can't understand why
anyone would spend time in its study because it don't ring my bell or turn my
lights on. Hopefully your GATA will soon get that stained dress or smoking gun
so I can stop reading your stuff. I'am now on my fourth free 2 week trial period.<snip>
So, what changed, Ak Ak?
1) Did you get a free subscription to the Cafe'
2) Have you / are you now receiving under the table payments to post "uninteresting economic and political stuff" on GPM?
3) Did your Mongolian gold stock investment turn into wallpaper??
4) _____________________ (use extra paper if you need to)
Enquiring threaders want to know if you will answer a direct questions or is Smurf your "duck-ing" model?
so YOUR Personalized Doug A K final exam has 3 questions:
1) What changed your boredom into interest after the 4th free trial period to Cafe?
2) What does a GATA win look like to you? mean to your family, your nation?
3) What does Bill define is the GATA win?
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| To: d:oug who wrote (75748) | 9/1/2001 10:58:17 AM | | From: IngotWeTrust | | | | Hutch! MAH HERRRRO! <g> Try this one on, ak ak...
[open quote-entire post]
To:Bill Murphy who
wrote (35277)
From: Hutch
Friday, Jun 18, 1999 12:04 AM
| Respond to 35512 of 75754
compared to other nerds on this thread that just try and be negative. They
bore me to death and I will not respond. If it causes others to think my action
is not appropriate, I am out of here for good.
Hmmm, when I read this: #reply-10154876
"None of Long-Term Capital Management, [Long-Term Capital
Portfolio] nor their affiliates has ever entered into any transaction
involving the purchase or sale of gold, including without limitation spot,
forwards, options, futures, loans, borrowings, repurchases, coin or
bullion, long or short, physical or derivative or in any other form
whatsoever," the affidavit states.
I get the impression that you are really leaving because you feel you are either
a) out classed,
b) loosing and are afraid to meet your supporters or
c) chicken of debating.
The fact that you try to subjugate other with your diatribe insults, is well just
YOU. You can't expect to post you GATA stuff and not be open to questions
and comments. Your attempts to hide [ <--- my emphasis, not Hutch's] shows your lack of knowledge. Grow up, get back here, and justify your opinions.
[close quote]
RE: Bill (S)Murphy's hiding: well, starting with NO public fiscal accountability, God only knows what else is unseen and unknown about GATA... but the request for recent electronic credit card donations -certainly changed the trackability of some of GATA's finances...still believe ole Bill's made a major tactical error there! |
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| To: IngotWeTrust who wrote (75751) | 9/1/2001 11:27:37 AM | | From: Square_Dealings | | | | You seem to be quite emotional about GATA for some personal reasons which are not clear.
The only surprise with GATA could be that the case will actually go to discovery, and you know how one thing leads to another....
The financial system is closed to the public that funds it. Just like the media is a closed network of good ole boys.
Maybe for some of us a win for GATA would be just to expose the TRUTH and let the public take it from there.
M. |
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