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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (115265)1/7/2022 10:09:15 PM
From: John Koligman
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Saw another timely article on the topic today, looks like Tesla will soon be charging north of 12k extra for an option that isn't fully enabled. Count me out <ggg>.



Tesla raising price of Full Self-Driving option that still doesn't fully self-driveYou'll pay $12,000 for the privilege beginning Jan. 17. And Tesla CEO Elon Musk says the price will go up again in the future.



Steven Ewing

Jan. 7, 2022 3:37 p.m. PT

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Nope, can't drive itself.

TeslaTesla will once again raise the price on its misleadingly named Full Self-Driving feature, company CEO Elon Musk tweeted Friday. Beginning Jan. 17, the Full Self-Driving option will cost $12,000 -- a $2,000 increase over the current price.

This is the second time Tesla raised the price on its Full Self-Driving function that -- and we cannot stress this enough -- is not a fully self-driving technology. (There are no self-driving cars currently for sale.) In Nov. 2020, the price for FSD rose from $8,000 to $10,000.

Musk also tweeted that the price for Full Self-Driving will rise again as the technology gets closer to production.

Right now, selecting the FSD option gets you Tesla's Autopilot driver-assistance suite, which includes automatic lane changes, automatic parking, steering assist on limited highways, the Summon function and more. If you purchase the FSD option, the car gets added hardware that will enable fully self-driving capabilities if and when those ever become legal for road use.

We've found the Autopilot system to be hit or miss on long-term Tesla Model Y crossover, largely due to a constant phantom braking problem. Tesla's made a number of over-the-air updates to this technology over time, and says it is constantly tweaking and improving these driver-assistance features.

Tesla does not operate a public relations department and is therefore unable to comment on Musk's tweet.

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To: John Koligman who wrote (115270)1/11/2022 7:15:23 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum
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I think Tesla is peaking... China flavour better bet... but desire of both US and Beijing for different reason to remove US listings is problematic there

US thinks they're punishing Beijing.. Beijing wants to promote Shanghai.. must be 10 years go now I posted on that.. has been obvious to me for a long time...... delisting from US is China's hegemony at work.. Mr. Biden assisting ..

aw.. yes here :) Message 27024371

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From: Rarebird1/25/2022 9:49:34 AM
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Gold Miners don't do well in the late stages of a bull market or at the beginning of bear markets.

Gold Miners are very early cycle plays at the anticipation of the onset of Fed easing. Otherwise, the Miners are permanent shorts.

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To: Rarebird who wrote (115272)1/25/2022 10:06:23 AM
From: Rarebird
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Gold bugs will argue that if the stock market falls enough to prompt the Fed to back off from its tightening cycle, Gold and the Miners will rally strongly.

My response would be that the Miners may stabilize for a while if that scenario took place. However, the Miners would continue to fall with the broad market till that point was reached and the stock market would still not be in an early cycle bull easing environment.

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To: Rarebird who wrote (115273)1/25/2022 10:08:40 AM
From: Rarebird
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Gold Bulls always concoct ways in which the Mining stocks could rally.

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To: Rarebird who wrote (115274)1/26/2022 12:15:29 PM
From: bjzimmy
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So no consideration for Russia invading Ukraine for a short term pop?

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To: bjzimmy who wrote (115275)1/26/2022 12:43:58 PM
From: Rarebird
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I no longer play short term intra-day pops. I'm sure Gold would pop if a war started out. But it would represent a sell the pop. Why bother? The big money is in holding top quality stocks intermediate to long term. Maybe the equity bull has till 2024. It will be a pretty catastrophic drop, the mother of all Bears once the Bull completes. We are not there yet.

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To: Rarebird who wrote (115276)1/26/2022 2:02:43 PM
From: bjzimmy
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Interesting you say 2024. Might want to read this as he's been calling 2024 for over 10 years.

On CMS, The Budget, And Powell

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From: mattstat1/27/2022 8:18:21 AM
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GDX is racing down to fill the gap at $26. Been waiting for this move for a while.

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To: mattstat who wrote (115278)1/27/2022 8:46:43 AM
From: rdkflorida2
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Quite a while back I was looking for $22. Not so sure now. RDK

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