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   PastimesGardening and Especially Tomato Growing


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From: Cogito Ergo Sum10/6/2021 11:44:13 PM
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Another planting weekend ahead

need to complete another raised bed for fall... permanent locations for plants to be decided later :)

Qty ShippedItem NumberItem Description
167967EARLY SNOW GLORIES 100 BULBS
182220QUEEN OF NIGHT TULIP
172238FOREVER SUSAN ASIATIC LILY
172255TURK'S CAP LILY MIXTURE


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681175ELEPHANT GARLIC


North Ontario :)

constant sound of ducks and geese :)



Oct... is doing it month

Bought my season ski pass today :)

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To: sense who wrote (3435)10/10/2021 11:48:22 PM
From: the longhorn
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Hi,

Could I ask what variety of strawberry? Anything that impedes bindweed is impressive! That has to be the toughest weed I've ever encountered.

I liked your comments on how a natural permaculture system saves a great deal of inputs. It may be when we got away from subsistence farming, we lost a lot of that knowledge. Also liked the suggestion of putting strawberries under the fruit trees. GOing to try that. I'm having luck with peas there too. SOuthwest climate.

lh

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To: the longhorn who wrote (3437)10/21/2021 6:23:29 PM
From: sense
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My best guess is that the survivors of our latest round of super cold winters... down under 20 below for more than a week... is probably an Ozark hybrid...

My climate challenges though are probably quite a lot different than yours... even though we share the same concerns in terms of tolerance of drought and high summer heat...
I tend to discount the "right berry for your state" type links... as variation within a state can be pretty dramatic... so state boundaries aren't often the right way to look at the problem in the western states.

More of a focus on climate specific issues seems a better idea... so maybe you'll find more help in something like this... Gardening in Tucson, Phoenix Arizona and California: Growing Strawberries in Hot, Dry Climates

Among the everbearers, if I were somewhere that I didn't have to worry about freezing them out, like here ? In Arizona, picking from among "popular" choices... I'd probably try Seascape...

Having struggled and experimented with the bindweed issues for years... I'm pretty certain that the only reason the strawberries work well to contain it here... is that when used as a ground cover they make a very dense shade beneath them... and the bindweed needs sun on the soil to warm it up, first, and then needs enough sunlight penetrating the upper layers of the soil, to induce the seeds to germinate. The berries here in our northern climate emerge and leaf out in spring quite a bit earlier than the bindweed does... they're far more frost tolerant... and thus are well enough established by the time the bindweed wants to germinate that they shade it out effectively... IF you have allowed them to form a continuous bed.

Since the berries also benefit from / require shade in hot climates... putting them under the fruit trees only helps the berries... but it amplifies the problems for the bindweed by making for an even deeper shade beneath the berry leaves...

I've also had temporary success countering bindweed using tarps laid down with mulch over them... which works only as long as the tarp and a good depth (6" or more) in mulch remain intact. Pull up the tarp after everything else has been killed by being covered over for a couple of years... and the still dormant bindweed seeds lurking beneath it will happily emerge with vigor, and no competition. I know for certain that they'll last at least ten years that way... but I hear they'll survive and wait dormant for many decades. The only sure cure seems it is to sustain that depth in shade well enough that it BOTH prevents the light penetrating to the surface, AND keeps the sun off well enough that it prevents the soil from heating up. Bindweed doesn't do deep shade... so crops that create dense shade... or cultivation practices that mimic the natural mode of forests with stories layering into a progressively deeper shade created by an overlapping canopy of vegetation... the only thing that seems to work.


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To: sense who wrote (3438)10/21/2021 9:52:47 PM
From: the longhorn
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Lots of good info....thanks!

I did a two year cover...carpet plus mulch...on bindweed and knocked it down pretty good. But it does come back...as you say. Cleaned up the new sprouting weed with vinegar and steady digging out with a shovel. Still have the final third of the garden area to purge of bindweed. Tackle a segment of ground at a time.

Didn't do a lot in the garden this summer but I did get two chokeberry bushes going. They seem to be tolerating our dry climate. I mulch them and water regularly.

Planting garlic this weekend!

lh

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To: sense who wrote (3438)10/22/2021 1:11:31 PM
From: robert b furman
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Hi longhorn, Got our first light frost last night. Picked everything I could pick last night. Garlic came in this week and got garden tilled before my old Troy Horse blew the crank out. Time to repower that beast. Old Tecumseh blew up just as I pulled out onto grass. LOL

Deer hunting time again -LOVE IT!

Bob

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To: robert b furman who wrote (3440)10/22/2021 2:11:58 PM
From: the longhorn
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Hi,

Good to hear from you! Harvesting garden and deer hunting...you are livin the dream there, son! Other than flying cranks but that's kind of exciting too. Wonder if they still make the Tecumseh engine. I remember those from long ago days growing up on the farm.

We are planting garlic today and putting ear tags on new calves later.

lh

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From: Pogeu Mahone2/10/2022 3:14:13 PM
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To: Tomato who wrote (3284)2/10/2022 3:17:15 PM
From: Pogeu Mahone
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You banned me from your joke thread for trying to save someone's life.

WTF is wrong with you?

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From: Cogito Ergo Sum3/26/2022 10:17:58 AM
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First Robin of the season


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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (3444)3/26/2022 11:39:36 AM
From: robert b furman
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Time to buy Tomato Maker for your tomatoes! Really boost yield.

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