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From: Sam6/22/2022 3:52:52 PM
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HEADS UP FRIENDS …. A message from a flight attendant

“Flying this summer is ROUGH!!! I feel like as a Flight Attendant I should attempt to share some tips to get you through airline travel for the foreseeable future.

1. Things are not good..... if its less than 7 hours - DRIVE! I'm not kidding. There is nothing enjoyable about flying right now. On any airline. If you must fly, keep reading.

2. Download and use the app of the airline you are flying. You can do everything on it - get your boarding pass, track your bags, see your incoming plane, and change a flight. It sure beats waiting in the long line to talk to an agent! Trust me - Usually these apps will tell you a flight is cancelled before the crew even knows!

3. Fly MUCH earlier than you need to - a whole day early if its important!! This week I saw many people miss important things like weddings, funerals, cruises, international connections, and graduations. The tears were very real, for very real reasons, and there was nothing I could do! If you have to be somewhere, spend the extra money, go a day early. Have a glass of wine and stay in a hotel, enjoy your night not being stressed while everyone else misses their events.

4. ALWAYS fly the first flight in the morning so you have all day to be rebooked if the shit hits the fan. Yes, that means it might be a 3:00 alarm, but morning flights don't cancel nearly as often.

5. This is not unique to this year, but keep in mind summer is thunderstorm season. A single storm can shut down a whole airport. We can't fly through them. Storms usually build as the day gets later. Book early flights!

6. Schedule long layovers - Your 1 hour layover is NOT enough anymore. 30 minutes, not a chance. 3 hours minimum.

7. What you see on the news is an understatement. We are short staffed and overworked. Not just pilots and flight attendants, but also ground crews. Without ground crews there is no one to park the planes, drive jetways, get your bags on/off planes, or scan boarding passes. This causes many delays that snowball throughout the day. Sometimes HOURS.(Another reason morning flights are best!)

8. When flight crews get delayed we time out. We can NOT fly longer than 16 hours. Its illegal. So it doesn't matter if you have a wedding to get to, when we are done we are done. The way things are now, there are no back up crews, so when this happens your flight cancels. (Now you are starting to see why those morning flights are best!)

9. Avoid connecting in Newark (Or any New York airport for that matter). It is literal hell. You have a 50/50 chance your flight will cancel or missing your connection. They have been cancelling flights at their starting points just to keep the planes out, because there just aren't enough people to manage the planes, so the gates stay full. Also the restaurants are expensive, it is not a great place to be stuck.

10. Be nice. As stated above, we are overworked and tired. We will not help you if you are mean. No one cares that you are going to miss your cruise if you are an asshole. So even if we can help, we will save our help for someone nice. Tensions are high. Our patience is gone. If you make us mad - you will not be flying on our planes. We will leave you behind without a second thought, and laugh about you later.

11. Being drunk on an airplane is a federal offense, so don't overdo it. If you drink too much at the bar waiting for your delayed flight you risk not being allowed to fly at all. We are too tired to deal with your drunk ass when we have legitimate issues to deal with.

12. Get trip insurance if you have a lot of money invested. I hate the whole idea of this, but I also hate the idea of losing money. Example: I was working a flight yesterday that waited over an hour for a gate. A family of 8 missed their flight to Rome. The only flight of the day. They were going to a cruise which they would now miss. They were all crying, there was nothing I could do. (Also a reason to fly a day early!)

13. Flights are FULL. If you buy the cheap seats you will not be able to sit with your family. It says so when you purchase your ticket!! Flight Attendants aren't there to rearrange the whole plane just so you can sit with your family because you tried to save $100 on a third party website.

14. Speaking of third party websites and saving money..... Like I said flights are FULL. If a flight is oversold, and no one volunteers to give up their seats, who do you think is the first to be bumped? You guessed it, the family that saved a few $$ by using sites like Expedia, Kayak, Hotwire etc.

15. Pack smart. Don't be "That guy" Don't hold up boarding because you have your extenders open till they are busting and you can't figure out how to make it fit in the overhead. (Passengers are stressed too, they can be aggressive when boarding a delayed flight)

16. Take showers, brush your teeth, leave the perfume off, don't eat stinky food (caesar salad and tuna fish I'm talking to you!), and bring headphones. Trust me. These things sound basic, but add to stress on crowded planes. If you are stuck on the tarmac for 3 hours after a 4 hour flight, you will thank me for this.

17. Bring a sweater if you tend to be cold. So tired of half naked girls asking me to turn the heat up. NO. Wear clothes!! Side note: If you dress like this and ask for heat, there's a chance I will turn the AC up.

18. Thats not water on the bathroom floor. For the love of God wear shoes to the bathroom!!!

19. Don't tell a Flight Attendant they look tired. We are and we know. You may cause us to ugly cry right there in galley.

20. Happy Travels!”

Kristie, thanks for the tips and flight attendant perspective: =AZUS-23KSvrnDHHDdmyy4SLXK7mtWy6pNO10tGXjCvIjY19cMbwleiOTvocuJv0vaRIO2HU7s6Wepq1zVkle2Ekhp5MOwtKnGI2N-nURFJrhe54Z0KfxrkPuCALnc9_AILr7NWjOPbydLJ1TUhyKQjVmGxVvVjijYcBQGIWO984gOcxBvOnGHJq6ziN4nOLnK24&__tn__=-]K-y-R]

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From: OldAIMGuy6/28/2022 7:17:01 AM
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American Air short hauler raises pay for pilots to help slow the cancellation of flights:


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From: Sam7/1/2022 6:55:40 PM
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An oversold flight prompted Delta Air Lines to offer thousands of dollars to passengers willing to give up their seats and take a later flight to Minnesota.

Passengers on board the flight from Grand Rapids, Michigan to Minneapolis, Minnesota were told the plane was overbooked after boarding had already begun, The Independent reported. Airline staff told passengers they needed eight volunteers willing to take a later flight, and in exchange those passengers would be given $10,000 each, The Independent reported.

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To: Sam who wrote (1733)7/1/2022 10:14:41 PM
From: Stock Puppy
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Wow - how come I never get these flights? :-)

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To: Stock Puppy who wrote (1734)7/1/2022 10:38:18 PM
From: Sam
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My immediate thought as well.

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From: Glenn Petersen7/2/2022 9:22:22 PM
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American Airlines scheduling glitch allows pilots to drop thousands of flights

NBC News
July 2, 2022

A glitch in a scheduling platform allowed American Airlines pilots to drop thousands of trips in July last night, their union said Saturday, a headache for the airline as it tries to minimize flight disruptions during a booming travel season.

American confirmed the issue and said it didn’t expect the problem to affect its operation, including during the July Fourth holiday weekend.

“As a result of this technical glitch, certain trip trading transactions were able to be processed when it shouldn’t have been permitted,” the airline said in a statement. “We already have restored the vast majority of the affected trips and do not anticipate any operational impact because of this issue.”

More than 12,000 July flights lacked either a captain, first officer or both, after pilots dropped assignments, the Allied Pilots Association said earlier.

Pilots can routinely drop or pick up trips, but time off in the summer or holidays is hard to come by for airline employees as schedules peak to cater to strong demand.

On Saturday alone, American had more than 3,000 mainline flights scheduled and they were 93% full, according to an internal tally. Flights left unstaffed, however, are an additional strain on any airline.

The glitch occurred during a rocky start to the Fourth of July weekend when thunderstorms and staffing issues caused thousands of U.S. flight delays and hundreds of cancellations.

American and its pilots’ union, whose relationship has been fraught, are in the middle of contract negotiations and the airline most recently offered nearly 17% raises through 2024. The union’s new president, Capt. Ed Sicher, began a three-year term on Friday.

American’s pilots have picketed recently against grueling schedules, something they want to be addressed in a new contract. Pilots at Delta and Southwest have picketed in recent weeks for similar reasons.

American said it has suspended a platform that allows pilots to change their schedules while it investigates the issue.

“We understand these are important tools for our pilots and are working as quickly as possible. We will provide updates throughout the day as we learn more,” American told pilots in an email Saturday.

Dennis Tajer, an American Airlines captain and spokesman for the Allied Pilots Association, said the company failed to keep the IT system working properly and creating “uncertainty for passengers and pilots.”

A similar issue occurred in 2017, when a technology problem let American’s pilots take vacation during the busy December holiday period. The carrier offered pilots 150% pay for pilots that picked up assignments.

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From: Sam7/12/2022 10:20:48 AM
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London’s Heathrow Airport asks airlines to stop selling summer tickets

Jul. 12, 2022 10:16 AM ET

London’s Heathrow Airport, the busiest airport in Europe prior to the pandemic, has asked airlines to discontinue summer sales as it struggles with staff shortages and delays.

A statement released on Tuesday explained that the airport cannot cope with surging passenger traffic that has regularly exceeded 100K per day with current staffing. Amid this rapid rise in travelers, service has fallen to “a level that is not acceptable” and safety has become a concern with many new hires struggling to keep up with the travel chaos.

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From: Sam7/18/2022 12:15:12 PM
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Aviation recovery heats up with Boeing order, UK-Japan collaboration
Reuters July 18, 2022 10:24:00 AM ET

FARNBOROUGH, England (Reuters) -UK-Japanese collaboration on fighter jets and a multibillion-dollar Boeing passenger plane order gave a lift to the aviation industry on Monday as the Farnborough Airshow returned in a heatwave tipped to break UK records.

A national emergency has been declared in Britain for Monday and Tuesday, with temperatures set to rise above 40 degrees Celsius (104 Fahrenheit) for the first time.

Despite warnings to limit travel, delegates battled crowded trains and shuttle buses to reach the show in southern England. Problems were exacerbated by climate protesters holding a mock funeral for the Earth outside the show.

The industry has been reeling from its own travel disruptions and the head of Emirates airline, which has clashed with London'sHeathrow over enforced capacity cuts, said a badly disrupted air travel industry would return to equilibrium in 2023 and must "tough it out" until then.

The air show, which alternates with Paris, is the first at Farnborough since 2019, and rising defence spending is in focus amid the war in Ukraine.

Britain announced it was collaborating with Japan and existing partner Italy on its next-generation fighter jet programme, potentially leading to decisions on deeper partnerships by the end of the year.

Three sources told Reuters last week that Britain and Japan were close to agreement to merge their next-generation Tempest and F-X fighter jet programmes to help save costs.

"I am a passionate believer in the potential of our burgeoning partnership, not just with Italy, but with Japan," British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said in opening remarks at the show.

On the civilian side, Boeing, under pressure to make up ground lost to rival Airbus, struck an upbeat tone on aircraft demand despite a faltering global economy.

"I think we'll see the glory of the old days - and then some," CEO Dave Calhoun told CNBC, adding he was keeping a close eye on the economy. "For right now I am enjoying the robust demand that we see."

Boeing received a boost for its 737 MAX 10 jet, which has hit regulatory snags, with Delta Air Lines announcing an order for 100 of the aircraft worth $13.5 billion at list prices, confirming a Reuters report..

India'sJet Airways is near a deal to buy 50 A220 jets from Airbus, two people close to the matter said.


Demand for jets peaked in 2016 but remained buoyant until the pandemic crippled air transport. Now, travel is rebounding, passengers face long lines and some jets are back in demand.

But the big-ticket orders that dominated past events are rarer as airlines repair balance sheets weakened by COVID-19 travel restrictions.

Aerospace firms came under pressure from customers at the start of the show to stabilise fractured supply chains and feed resurgent jet demand, even as airlines and airports are struggling to smooth their own operations after the pandemic.

Airbus CEO Guillaume Faury told Flightglobal in an interview published on Monday that engine delays holding back plane deliveries would peak at mid-year.

But the head of the body representing global airlines, IATA Director General Willie Walsh, said manufacturers had wasted chances to shore up assembly lines.

"Airlines are frustrated by the delays around delivery of aircraft; they're frustrated around issues like access to spare parts," Walsh told Reuters.

"I think (manufacturers) should have taken better advantage of the lull in demand over the past two years to have been better prepared for this recovery."

Industries worldwide are facing gaps in supply chains and labour shortages. Even the Farnborough Airshow itself has had trouble recruiting enough hospitality staff, insiders said.

Aviation is also under pressure to build greener planes and stop adding to what Johnson called the "carbon tea cosy" heating the planet. "We know that we must fix it. We know that time is running out," he said.

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From: Sam7/21/2022 8:29:36 AM
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American Airlines makes first profit without government aid since pandemic began

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Fort Worth-based American Airlines(AAL) is profitable for the first time in more than two years without government help as fuller planes and higher-ticket prices overcame expensive fuel and labor costs.

American Airlines (AAL) reported a $476 million profit on record $13.4 billion in sales during the second quarter. It’s the first time the company has made a profit without government aid since before the COVID-19 recession began, a period in which it totaled more than $12.5 billion in losses.

“Making sure American could take advantage of the continued recovery has been our collective focus, and the second quarter is evidence that our actions are producing positive results,” American Airlines(AAL) CEO Robert Isom said in a letter to employees. “There is no better validation of this than reporting our first quarterly profit since the start of the pandemic.”

American was able to pull in record sales despite flying 8.5% less than it did in 2019 as the industry struggles to return to pre-pandemic levels even though consumers have shown a willingness to pay elevated prices to travel.

Airlines have had to reduce flights with a shortage of pilots at regional carriers and carriers have scrambled to hire tens of thousands of workers to try to fill positions that were cut during the COVID-19 pandemic, despite more than $50 billion in government aid including more than $12 billion in grants for American Airlines(AAL).

While several airlines cut back on capacity, American kept its schedule 25% larger than its next-largest competitor, Delta Air Lines(DAL). American carried more than 53 million passengers on more than 500,000 flights in the quarter.

American says its on-time arrival rate from April to June was better than it was during the same period in 2019. Although, the summer of 2019 was marred by infighting with union mechanics and the grounding of the Boeing 737 Max limited capacity.

Isom has repeatedly said that the airline is properly staffed to handle the summer travel surge.

“As we look to the rest of the year, we have taken proactive steps to build additional buffer into our schedule and will continue to limit capacity to the resources we have and the operating conditions we face,” Isom said in the letter.

American’s improved financial results come a day after competitor United Airlines, based in Chicago, reported $329 million in profits for the second quarter, also its first profitable quarter without government aid since 2019. Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines(DAL) posted a $735 million profit last week, while Dallas-based Southwest Airlines(LUV) reports earnings next week.

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From: Sam7/21/2022 3:57:06 PM
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U.S. carriers cost struggles overshadow travel demand surge
Reuters July 21, 2022 03:49:00 PM ET

CHICAGO, July 21 (Reuters) - U.S. carriers are struggling to offset higher costs even as booming travel demand has given them strong pricing power, raising questions about their ability to shield profit once consumer demand softens.

Those worries are battering airline shares, taking the focus away from what is shaping up to be the industry's strongest earnings season in three years.

Shares of American Airlines Group Inc and United Airlines fell more than 9% on Thursday even after both carriers posted their first quarterly profit without U.S. government aid since the COVID-19 pandemic began.

Airlines expect travel demand to hold up even in the second half of the year as there is little evidence of higher fares, persistently high inflation and rising interest rates curbing consumer spending.

But staffing gaps and aircraft shortages have made it tougher to ramp up capacity and fully tap booming demand. In fact, carriers have been forced to cut flights and make costly staffing adjustments to avoid cancellations and delays, driving up operating costs.

American, United and Delta Air Lines see no let up in cost pressure this year as capacity constraints are not allowing them to operate as many flights as they did before the pandemic.

Delta doesn't plan to add more flights for the rest of the year. Similarly, United intends to keep its capacity below the pre-pandemic level in the current and fourth quarters.

To ensure adequate staffing, they are being forced to spend more. Delta, for example, expects to spend over $700 million this year in overtime and premium pay, 50% higher than in 2019.

Carriers are also hamstrung by construction projects at airports and staffing gaps among air-traffic controllers. United said it will cut 200 flights a day in Newark in September as a result of runway construction.

United Chief Executive Scott Kirby said the company will prioritize operational reliability by overstaffing until the entire aviation infrastructure returns to normal.

"It means that there will be cost pressures," Kirby told investors on an earnings call.

Labor unions and some analysts blame the industry's decision to let go thousands of workers at the height of the coronavirus pandemic in 2020 for its staffing challenges. Carriers have been aggressively hiring, but training backlogs have left them still short-staffed.

Meanwhile, a rush to staff up is driving up labor costs.

American has offered its pilots a base pay increase of about 17% after United agreed to a double-digit pay hike for its pilots. To attract and retain talent, the Texas-based carrier has also announced hefty pay increases for pilots at its regional carriers.

"As an industry, pilot wages are going to increase," said American Chief Executive Robert Isom. "And that's something that the industry as a whole is going to have to digest."

Airlines are also facing higher fuel costs, but a decline in global prices is expected to offer some relief. Yet, United warned that higher fuel prices would be the new normal for the industry. It expects its fuel bill this year to be $9 billion higher than in 2019.

Strong consumer demand, thus far, has allowed carriers to mitigate inflationary pressure with higher fares. Analysts, however, are not sure they will have the same pricing power in the fall when leisure travel bookings tend to slow down.

Christopher Raite, senior analyst at Third Bridge, said business travel spending will have to pick up the slack.

But the industry's struggle to get operations back on a smoother track as well as a worsening economy have cast a shadow on business travel demand. Many companies have already started tightening their purse strings.

"The airline industry is fundamentally less profitable than it was pre-pandemic," Raite said. "If we are to see corporations cut back, that would be a bad sign for airlines."

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