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To: Raymond Clutts who wrote (247)10/25/2001 5:15:34 PM
From: Lee L.
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I understand that an article in the WSJ this week (I didn't read it) indicated that a decision on the sale would be made this weekend. I'm skeptical given the length of time this has been going on. We'll see.

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To: Lee L. who wrote (248)10/26/2001 1:33:56 AM
From: FR1
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I can't believe how long this has been dragging on. Personally I would rather have DISH.

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To: FR1 who wrote (249)10/29/2001 10:05:05 AM
From: Raymond Clutts
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You just got your wish. Sorry Rupert, no sale.

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To: FR1 who wrote (249)1/30/2002 2:01:02 PM
From: Zoltan!
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Echostar deal looks like toast:
nytimes.com

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To: Zoltan! who wrote (251)1/30/2002 5:19:25 PM
From: FR1
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I can't get to that (subscription only).
What does it say?

I guess Murdoch is going to come back and get his way?
I wondered why they were down today.

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To: FR1 who wrote (252)1/30/2002 5:34:50 PM
From: Zoltan!
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The deal is given little chance.

...The day the deal was announced, Scott C. Cleland, chief executive of the Precursor Group, an independent research firm in Washington, estimated that there was about a one in three chance that the merger would go through.

"Now, I think that there is less than a one-in-three chance," Mr. Cleland said yesterday. "This is not a close call. It's over the line of almost any traditional antitrust analysis."

So far, the few parties speaking out in favor of the merger are EchoStar and DirecTV's corporate parent, Hughes Electronics....

nytimes.com

Now you know why Murdoch stopped bidding. The deal is toast.

btw, this can't help:

....Helping spread EchoStar's view is David Boies, the lawyer who argued the government's case against Microsoft (news/quote) and the Gore campaign's losing cause in the 2000 presidential election ballot dispute in Florida. EchoStar has also hired at least two former deputy chiefs of staff from the Clinton White House, Maria Echaveste and Steve Ricchetti....

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To: Zoltan! who wrote (253)1/30/2002 5:47:14 PM
From: FR1
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Now that I think about, I actually heard some of the testimony.
It didn't look good for DISH then.
Small players were on hand to point out all the problems.

What I don't understand is why people think it will be any different with Murdoch.

Murdoch doesn't take prisoners.

You will get just as much of a monopoly or duopoly when you give everything to him. Maybe worse.

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To: FR1 who wrote (254)1/30/2002 5:53:22 PM
From: Zoltan!
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No. And yes.

There will be two providers of satellite. Not one. So consumers win.

You can bet that Murdoch will prevail. He just vanquished CNN:
accessatlanta.com

btw, Disney is also doing all it can to defeat Dish. That's not in the article.

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To: Zoltan! who wrote (255)1/30/2002 6:03:15 PM
From: FR1
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Like I mentioned in the email, I think Murdoch will make quick work of DISH. He controls too much content. If Disney hates DISH, that also helps end DISH. It will be difficult going after Murdoch because there are too many ways to disguise the attacks.

It's a shame we lost all the other satellite players back in the early 90's recession (thanks AG). Each recession brings more consolidation.

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To: Zoltan! who wrote (253)1/30/2002 8:30:27 PM
From: Lee L.
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"Now, I think that there is less than a one-in-three chance," Mr. Cleland said yesterday. "This is not a close call. It's over the line of almost any traditional antitrust analysis."

This is one guy's opinion. It's a little to soon to 'toast' the deal.

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