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To: Zoltan! who wrote (253)1/30/2002 5:47:14 PM
From: FR1
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Now that I think about, I actually heard some of the testimony.
It didn't look good for DISH then.
Small players were on hand to point out all the problems.

What I don't understand is why people think it will be any different with Murdoch.

Murdoch doesn't take prisoners.

You will get just as much of a monopoly or duopoly when you give everything to him. Maybe worse.

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To: FR1 who wrote (254)1/30/2002 5:53:22 PM
From: Zoltan!
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No. And yes.

There will be two providers of satellite. Not one. So consumers win.

You can bet that Murdoch will prevail. He just vanquished CNN:
accessatlanta.com

btw, Disney is also doing all it can to defeat Dish. That's not in the article.

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To: Zoltan! who wrote (255)1/30/2002 6:03:15 PM
From: FR1
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Like I mentioned in the email, I think Murdoch will make quick work of DISH. He controls too much content. If Disney hates DISH, that also helps end DISH. It will be difficult going after Murdoch because there are too many ways to disguise the attacks.

It's a shame we lost all the other satellite players back in the early 90's recession (thanks AG). Each recession brings more consolidation.

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To: Zoltan! who wrote (253)1/30/2002 8:30:27 PM
From: Lee L.
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"Now, I think that there is less than a one-in-three chance," Mr. Cleland said yesterday. "This is not a close call. It's over the line of almost any traditional antitrust analysis."

This is one guy's opinion. It's a little to soon to 'toast' the deal.

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To: Lee L. who wrote (257)1/30/2002 11:58:23 PM
From: Zoltan!
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It's toast.

Did you read the article?
nytimes.com

btw, the article didn't mention Disney, which is doing its all to stop the deal.

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To: Zoltan! who wrote (258)1/31/2002 9:30:40 AM
From: Lee L.
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Zoltan, I cannot access the article since I don't subscribe to the NYTimes.

Ergen doesn't seem to be helping himself -- taking on Disney (Business Week had a good article on this a couple of weeks ago) and failing to offer all required local channels without a second dish didn't help.

If we consider DTV and Echostar to be part of the overall Cable/Satellite market place, then Ergen has a strong argument (GM bought it) that the combined company would *not* be a monopoly. Uniform pricing plans also seem to address any rural issues.

I still think that the deal is at least 50/50. I would feel better about the deal if I saw progress on the lobbying and marketing front. To date, I haven't seen any real victories for Ergen in this area.

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To: Lee L. who wrote (259)1/31/2002 12:29:33 PM
From: Zoltan!
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I pm'd it to you.

Pass it on.

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To: Lee L. who wrote (259)1/31/2002 12:52:04 PM
From: Zoltan!
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Here's the same article on yahoo news:
dailynews.yahoo.com

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To: Zoltan! who wrote (261)2/6/2002 12:09:09 PM
From: Lee L.
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Zoltan, thanks for the link. I had not seen it. I do agree with Jack Shaw in that Hughes/Echostar "had not effectively told their story in Washington and misjudged the tenacity of their opponents". They must crank-up their marketing message with the public and congress if they want the sentiment to shift their way.

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To: Lee L. who wrote (262)2/26/2002 4:25:30 PM
From: Lee L.
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It looks like Charlie is turning-up the PR on why the merger makes sense. These are compelling arguments...

dailynews.yahoo.com

In a joint application filed with the Federal Communications Commission (news - web sites) (FCC (news - web sites)) late Monday, the two companies outlined a "Local Channels, All Americans" plan. If accepted, the merged company would reach every consumer in the continental U.S., Alaska and Hawaii by offering access to satellite-delivered local television signals in all 210 designated market areas (DMAs).... "This merger is all about more choice, not less, for broadband Internet access and local TV," Charles Ergen, chairman and CEO of EchoStar, told reporters in a conference call. "It is good for the consumers and it is good for us."....

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