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To: Roger Tabry who wrote (60)2/14/1997 9:53:00 PM
From: Mike Magarahan
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Certainly by the end of the year, but my guess is again at 150 to 160. The only thing that can stop it is government interference, but I don't want to bet my life against that.

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To: Mike Magarahan who wrote (61)2/17/1997 10:18:00 PM
From: Roger Tabry
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What "government interference"?

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To: Roger Tabry who wrote (62)2/19/1997 8:18:00 PM
From: Mike Magarahan
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Anti Trust nonsense, like the interference that made the INTUIT buyout too much hassle. Boy, that would have been something. You probably know this but let me say it anyway for those who don't, Microsoft didn't give a hoot for Quicken's budgeting, Bill was after those electronic banking contracts.

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To: Robert Scott who wrote (38)2/19/1997 9:07:00 PM
From: Mike Magarahan
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Robert:

I agree with you that the Java issue is anybody's guess, but "most of the world would like to see their dominence disrupted and toppled"?

Certainly that part of the world that trys to compete with MSFT, which is growing as MSFT expands into new markets, but there are still far more who ride their coattails and cheer them on. And rightfully so, because they have done more to advance the U.S. as a dominant force in world computing than IBM has done in the last 20 years. Without MSFT we would all be using PS2's with proprietary this and proprietary that.

Ya know what's really exciting? The information age has not finished forming yet, there's more to come. We're going to have Web terminals in residential kitchens that read us our mail as we fix that first cup of coffee. We need a strong leader to forge ahead and set standards where there were none previously compatible with everything else. That's the real bridge that we are building to the 21st century.

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To: Jay Rommel who wrote (49)3/23/1997 11:33:00 PM
From: damniseedemons
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Hey Jay,

Have you recieved any of the email I've sent you???

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To: damniseedemons who wrote (65)3/23/1997 11:42:00 PM
From: Jay Rommel
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Of course not ...

I have 3 e-mail addresses ... I know you are sick and tired of hearing this, but
as soon as I start my new job, I will e-mail you, Thomas and Jim ...

BTW, this might be old news to you, but did you hear of anyone getting
the demo copy of Office 97 and modifying a DLL to make it (Office 97)
act like a retail version?

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To: Jay Rommel who wrote (66)3/24/1997 12:24:00 AM
From: damniseedemons
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Wait a sec, didn't you give me your address a while ago (unlike Thomas and Jim)??? Who is all that mail going to?

RE: Office97 Hack....Yeah, and did you hear that MSFT is suing that guy for it? He's in deep sh_t....

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To: damniseedemons who wrote (67)3/24/1997 8:30:00 PM
From: 8bits
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Sal,
They caught the guy who hacked the .dll control file in Office97?
Good sluething on their part or they rounded up one of many suspects, it's not that hard to crack. I can see why MSFT would get cranky considering how much revenue is expected from OF97.
Nick

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To: 8bits who wrote (68)3/25/1997 1:08:00 PM
From: damniseedemons
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Yeah Nick, they caught him, and they're suing him. He did something very illegal, and made things worse but trumpeting it all over the WWW.

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To: damniseedemons who wrote (69)3/25/1997 6:00:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh
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Sal, you're overstating the case here. The Kinko's hack was all over usenet. Who knows they might sue me, I posted something on the Micron group when people were complaining about the $29 upgrade price. I pointed out the Kinko's trial version and said somebody would probably hack it. Boy, what a stretch that was.

Turns out there's an almost legal hack too, though a bit more costly- if you buy a word or excel upgrade, then install Kinko's office on top of it, it won't get disabled after 90 days either.

Here's a ref and a quote:

pcweek.com:80/news/0317/18esuit.html

Fazendin said he had found a few cracks, or code that
cracks security codes, on Usenet and posted them on
his Web site two weeks ago. He took them down early
Tuesday, after he was served by Microsoft's lawyers.
He did not think Microsoft would sue him and believed
that if they came after him at all, it would be with a
cease-and-desist letter, which he would have complied
with.

"I get the impression I'm sort of being made an
example of," he said. "It's so easy to find this [material].
All you have to do is run a search. I'm really surprised
they went after me."

Editorial aside: I don't endorse piracy, but going after some random 22 year old who got the hack off usenet doesn't particularly impress me. And I checked, it is indeed available on usenet. Microsoft whining about piracy in general doesn't impress me when they are trying to drive Netscape out of business by giving stuff away, or paying people to take it. Of course, that latter couldn't possibly be predatory pricing, because software has 0 cost of production.

Cheers, Dan.

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