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Politics : Actual left/right wing discussion

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To: TimF who wrote (8633)11/23/2010 11:03:31 PM
From: koan1 Recommendation  Read Replies (2) of 10074
Well Mr Fowler, what really makes a guy like you tick is what I want to know? That was quite a mishmash and too much to respond to. And you either misunderstood what I said, or?

So let's just take one thought and examine it. I will start with how you are misrepresenting what I said about the 64 civil rights act. I specifically said "conservative's filibustered". I did not say Republican's. That is the whole difference. You didn't know that?

It would be forgivable, but I am sure you know the truth and are using debating tricks rather than seeking the truth.

I would remind you socrates, Plato or Aristotle would never approve.

You make this statement, which would be correct if I said Democrats, but I didn't say that. I specifically said "conservatives" filibustered (dixiecrats were as hard core conservatives as the southern republicans!). The entire conservative south. Did you not notice I said conservatives?

FOWLER: "Democrats filibustered the act, Republicans voted for it with larger percentage of yes votes than from the Democratic Party, and they did so 99 years after they lead the effort that created the conditions to abolish slavery."

KOAN: The voting record below shows how you completely twisted what I said. That is the type of trick you right wingers always resort to because you cannot stand on the truth:

By party and region - the actual vote:

Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.

The original House version:

Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7%–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0%–100%)
Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%–15%)
The Senate version:

Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%)
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%–2%)
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%–16%)
[edit] Women's rights
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