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Strategies & Market Trends : Value Investing

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To: Paul Senior who wrote (30184)3/1/2008 4:12:53 PM
From: Spekulatius  Read Replies (1) of 71627
 
Hutchison Whampoa is one of the most opaque company i am aware of. it is impossible to determine operating earnings because year after year, investment special dividends etc. gains bury operation results. this year it was the huge windfall from the sale of the Indian cellphone business and some special dividend that accounted for 2/3 of the cash flow. I do know that the Telecom arm generates huge losses and that the property/ports/hotels are nicely profitable. My best guess is that if all special gains are backed out HW is barely, if at all profitable. maybe that's what HW is, a conglomerate that wheels and deals with companies. They seem to have done OK doing this in the past and it may work in the future. But i would not be surprised if one day the whole thing comes tumbling down.

In the current market simplicity trumps complexity. When the going get's tough a lot of people will dump the stuff they do not understand first. HW seems on the wrong side of that equation, IMO.
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