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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: carranza2 who wrote (160394)4/14/2005 2:29:24 PM
From: marcos  Read Replies (1) of 281497
Zapata could read? ... what amazing news, the papers must be notified -g- ... actually he could read, but is said to have preferred verbal discussion, and in a get-to-the-point style, no long-winded speechifying, just the practical bits, thank you

But he could read, it was carrancista propaganda that he could not ... every schoolteacher in Morelos, and most in the nation, know who probably helped him to improve his reading - Profe y Gral. Otilio Edmundo Montaño Sánchez -

MS taught school in Anenecuilco before 1910, and helped Z with his suit against the hacendados ... then later taught in Ayala [? - if memory serves], and was there the author [at least as scribe and editor] of the Plan de Ayala ... shortly after, became a general with the surianos, was shot in 1917 after a quick 'trial' by a group of his fellows infected with personal ambitions ... that site above is response to those charges

The ideology of Zapata was strictly his own, to get back for the people their stolen land, punto ... and strictly rural people, you won't see much of anything from him regarding cities or industrial workers, provided that they were not such under duress, having had their land stolen ... Z was his own man, and unique, but seems to have relied on Montaño for assistance in refining political tactics .... Montaño had definitely read Flores Magón, everyone had in those days, and while FM was certainly influenced by Marx and Engels, he was considered an anarchist of some sort ... long story short, they all agreed that it was wrong to dispossess the people, who should have their stolen land returned, and if that is 'marxist' in the eyes of any others, then those others are defining the term in a novel and useless manner

You likely know all this stuff ... amusing to see your nick defend the honour of don Emiliano -g- ... in the library of San Cristóbal Chis. there was years ago a great book centred on Montaño Sánchez, it was stamped inside the cover 'Biblioteca de Cuernavaca', hard to say how it got to SC, but it became at that point more suriano than ever -g-

As for violence against priests, that worked both ways, the church had through various periods instigated their followers in persecuting liberales ... Juárez certainly had problems with them, and in the twenties the cristeros shot more than a few schoolteachers ... it was a struggle for power, and in no way were the cristeros the ideological contrary of marxists, they were the same, both big-R Religions opposed to the human rights agenda of the liberales

Not that there were ever more than a handful of marxists, that stuff just didn't apply to a people overwhelmingly agrarian ... there were more cristeros fanatics, but still they were a tiny fraction of population ... the campesino basically just wants his individual human rights, while placating his wife in the department of religion when and if necessary, all things in balance, and later for the ideology
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