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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (159347)3/20/2005 6:25:35 PM
From: marcos  Read Replies (1) of 281497
The position of Hamas is no more radical than that of the überzionists who would cheerfully take it all and bury the palestinians with those armoured D9s and smile, knowing themselves to be the Chosen People .... 'Gott mit Uns', in hebrew and arabic both, lord save us from these whackenstaatians

No, Israel's presence on all its currently occupied land is not legitimate .... doh ... as a nuclear-armed fait accompli du jour, it must be dealt with by other nations, so by custom and usage it can maybe over time pretend to acquire some of the trappings of legitimacy, it will however remain a fact that it is camped out on the lands of other peoples

'Also, most of the land that became Israel was government owned, who do you think should have gained control of it in 1948?'

A more accurate question is, Who do i think should have ethnically cleansed this 'government owned' yet arab-inhabited land, and looted the possessions of its arab inhabitants? ... the answer would be, Nobody that really wanted to later claim 'legitimacy' .... those people had human rights, the inadequacy of turkish/british land tenure systems aside

'Arabs rejected partition' - so did a large slice of zionists, and guess who attacked who, and on whose lands the great majority of battle took place, and where the great majority of casualties fell .... hmmm, that situation has been remarkably consistent throughout, hasn't it ...

In the last bit here, i am referring to all land that Israel now occupies that was not legitimately acquired by zionist interests prior to 1948 ... or perhaps, if this applies anywhere [it may in some few cases], lands legitimately acquired since, bought at market price from willing sellers, without any hint of duress, expressed or implied ... which would not, of course, include your above 'government owned' yet arab-farmed land whose rightful holders were robbed and chased away.

[edit] - missed this bit about christians arabs - 'One wonders what you have against christian arabs, who used to be a big minority in Palestine'

How silly, never have i said anything against christians there ... nor the legitimate long-term presence of what they call the Old Yishuv, the orthodox jews of Jerusalem .... your Israel, by the way, has indulged itself in much persecution of christians, there is considerable on this on the net.

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