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To: zonder who wrote (70879)	10/22/2003 3:32:38 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) of 70976

That includes state-sanctioned killing, which I believe your country still practices at this day and age. There are differences here, as I'm sure you're well aware. It's called "process of law". This can't be classed as revenge killing because the jury is specifically chosen from people who know neither party. If you wish to say killing a person under any circumstances is wrong, then I presume you are a total pacifist and oppose war under any conditions? Does this include 1940, when the Nazis marched into France? Honor killings happen in the least educated and most conservative places of the Middle East. It is certainly not common practice everywhere. There was one such honor killing in Southeastern Turkey that I read about a few months ago, but in Turkish cities, girls and boys hold hands & kiss in the streets and nobody kills anyone. And suicide bombings carried out against civilians are ..... ? Or attempting to blow up Los Angeles International Airport? Or the World Trade Center? Or ramming jets into skyscrapers? Amish refuse vaccinations and their kids die as a result. Now isn't that "bad"? And Jehovah's Witnesses refuse transfusions and they and their kids die. Sometimes. Often a court overrules the parents and orders the medical procedure carried out against their wishes. There is a legitimate conflict here between freedom of religion, a strongly held value in this country, and the tenets that some religions hold. I hope you are not trying to say wife-beating happens only in the Middle East. Attitudes have changed over here. I suspect that may be what one of our posters is upset about. As a general these days, if you beat your wife and she or someone else complains, you go to jail. I have no problem with this. If a woman injured a man in the past, she could pretty much always expect jail. Fair's fair.

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