Copyright © 2013 Knight Sac Media. All rights reserved.http://www.siliconinvestor.com/subject.aspx?subjectid=58755With the press a buzz about a possible NOKIA Corp. bankruptcy filing. This thread was created to discuss the probability of such an event. As they say.. No one would ever wish for a train wreck. But, if there is going to be one, people will line up to watch. On September 6th, Nokia revealed it's...http://www.siliconinvestor.com/images/Logo380x132.pnghttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/subject.aspx?subjectid=5875538013210Cogitohttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=2847011410/12/2012 5:34:37 PMgreenbeemerhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=2846155510/9/2012 10:49:29 AMpcstelhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=284363489/26/2012 11:29:20 PMpcstelhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=284363449/26/2012 11:27:18 PMpcstelEngadget show side by side demonstration of OIS between IPhone and Lumia 920 [youtube video] Hey.. Wait a minute.. This real life Lumia 920 OIS mode doesn't look ANYTHINIG LIKE the Jokia marketing "OIS SIMULATION" video they showed at the product launch. [youtube video] PCSTELhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=284354029/26/2012 3:37:53 PMpcstelAAPL hits all time high after release of Iphone 5. Tankwatchers providing dire warnings of Apple's imminent share price collapse for two years since the stock was at $320 are losing it, in real time.... LOL! Wayyy too funny! And people say there is no such thing as Karma¿¿¿ And so it goes, PCSTELhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=284103609/15/2012 12:46:28 AMLahcim Leinadhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=284038189/12/2012 8:13:17 PMpcstelhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=284035399/12/2012 5:58:38 PMLahcim Leinadhe doesn't actually show you an example of dialing a phone number with those giant gloves on. Or surfing the web with those gloves on. Here: [youtube video]http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=284028219/12/2012 2:03:13 PMpcstelThe one thing I love in the Nokia 920 NYC Event is when the guy whips out a pair of ski gloves and talks about being on a chair lift and your smart phone rings and you need to call the person back. He explains that due to the Super Sensitive Touch, you don't have to take your ski gloves off to return the call. . . . ...http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=284024299/12/2012 12:31:16 PMpcstelAll the Jokian's tend to forget whom started the Smartphone patent wars.... 20092009, Oct 22: Nokia sues Apple over 10 patents.[6][7]2009, Dec 11: Apple countersues Nokia over 13 patents.[8]2009, Dec 29: Nokia files a second lawsuit [9] and a U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC) complaint against Apple over 7 mo...http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=283999789/11/2012 1:25:21 PMpcstelNokia ask for dealer support as it aims to be “disruptive force” At a Nokia partner conference held recently with 120 Nokia dealers Nokia vice president of Western Europe Conor Pierce asked Nokia’s partners to help the company become a disruptive force in the market. snip " It’s about knowing what we need to do an...http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=283961609/9/2012 8:15:00 PMLahcim LeinadNo problem. Just don't anybody try to foist that substandard 920 or 820 on me. I know better, owning the stellar, unbeaten 808. ;-)http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=283945779/8/2012 6:54:02 PMpcstelHadn't seen you post over on that thread.. I apologize for stealing your idea. Can we settle out of court? PCSTELhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=283945729/8/2012 6:47:24 PMLahcim Leinad"You ought never to take anything that don't belong to you--if you cannot carry it off." - "Advice for Good Little Boys" - Mark Twain, 1865. NOK... without the BS Message Board - Msg: 28392192http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=283945059/8/2012 5:37:56 PMpcstelhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=283944749/8/2012 5:21:14 PMpcstelBefore, Nokia NOK was figuratively a "laughing stock"... Now they are " literally laughing stock The Lumia 920 camera is officially "vapor ware" Nokia's new PureView ad is amazing, too bad it's faked Then to add insult to injury... They even faked the Still Photos.. Nokia's PureView still photos also include fa...http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=283904519/6/2012 8:59:42 PMpcstelSometimes, pictures are worth a thousand words. 2010 Ranking of top 100 GLOBAL Brands worldwide NOKIA #8 ahead of Apple, Disney, Merchdees, Samsung interbrand.com  2011 Nokia moved down 6 places to #14 replaced by Apple interbrand.com  Will be interesting where Nokia comes in on the 2012 survey. PCSTELhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282524587/7/2012 11:08:27 PMpcstelhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282485467/5/2012 6:44:10 PMCogitoThe executives also stated that they are not impressed with the latest Nokia smartphone, the Lumia 900. According to the report, the Finnish handset maker cannot put up a good fight against rivals like HTC. If they can't even put up a fight against HTC, what chance do they have against Samsung and Apple? HTC is, itse...http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282411707/2/2012 2:23:35 AMsense Personally, I think the issue in the still swelling tide in the red ink is a much larger cause for concern than worrying about which currency it is that they're using in denominating the losses ? http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282411377/2/2012 1:32:46 AMLahcim LeinadThere is another guy on SI who mistakenly believes NOK and Euro are connected. I do not. The Euro is its own separate tanking problem, having not much to do with tanking Nokia. Just my never humble opinion.http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282410827/2/2012 12:08:57 AMsenseProbably just depends on which one... You think it might matter ? I wonder if there's a similar board on SI... handicapping the timeline to the end of the Euro and Europe ? Maybe NOK and "Europe" have roughly equal chances... ? But, whether it can or will work or not, Europe appears to still have people who believ...http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282410707/1/2012 11:52:29 PMLahcim LeinadNice dream. I think they have other things to do, by Wednesday. Could be dead wrong. Doubt it.http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282410177/1/2012 10:57:37 PMsense" And although I'm sure Microsoft made no secret of it, one of Elop's primary arguments to go with Windows in Nokia Phones was to distinguish themselves from other OEM's that had gone with Google's (GOOG) Android. " Well, gotta give him credit for that bit. They've clearly enough distinguished themselves. Still, may...http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282408447/1/2012 8:36:29 PMsenseI'm sure Europe will get around to creating an Airbus like aggregate cooperative venture between many telecoms just in time to save Nokia... as soon as they've figured out the whole thing with the Euro, Eurozone governance, and national versus European sovereignty... Maybe by Wednesday. http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282408207/1/2012 8:19:41 PMsenseThe government "won’t prop up the ailing mobile phone maker by buying its shares" and " this is not the way of support along which the government will go"... Not sure that's really saying all of what the article's author is trying to make it say ? It says what they won't do, and not what they will ?http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282408087/1/2012 8:10:17 PMpcstelNOK closes -.04 to $2.07 with the € up big time and a HUGE market rally... Wheww! What's dat smell..... If they lose 1 Billion a quarter, that's 11.1MM a day, or about 55MM a week. Or about 5 cents a week in market cap. If you held 5.5MM shares of NokIa. That would equal a $275,000 loss per week based on a 5 cent ...http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282376686/29/2012 6:45:05 PMpcstelNokia prints new multi-year low at $2.07. Even the bailout can't save NOK. PCSTELhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282362536/29/2012 10:59:18 AMpcstelOne of my software engineers was showing me Jelly Bean on his Galaxy Nexus this afternoon. A nice improvement. RIMM dying faster than anticipated.. Nokia right behind them,..... NOK probably heading sub $2 soon.. PCSTELhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282355746/29/2012 12:35:12 AMLahcim LeinadI'm boycotting Seeking Alpha. Not even going to read that article cause last I posted something of theirs here, they contacted SI management with a take down notice.http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282327576/28/2012 8:15:55 AMpcstelNokia stock gets pummeled: Microsoft a Bad Date Great article. seekingalpha.com http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282325016/27/2012 11:51:10 PMpcstelhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282324956/27/2012 11:46:23 PMLahcim LeinadPrecisely. Massive amounts of NOK "investors" fail to visit the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission | Homepage, to find out what is TRULY going on here. Their loss.http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282324126/27/2012 10:55:19 PMpcstel Will Nokia be acquired? If so, then by whom? What other options exist? How can we analyse this? I think anyone looking at Nokia, would look at Nortel as an example. Nokia has huge "Pension Obligations" to NSN employees. Currently exceeding 50,000 employees. Similarly, Nortel had huge "Pension Obligations"... S...http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282324046/27/2012 10:51:48 PMLahcim LeinadSeems completely, absolutely irrelevant to me, as far as NOK and APPL are concerned. WTF am I missing?http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282321616/27/2012 8:32:24 PMelmatadorThe outcome? Proposed consolidation using EADS model. Nokia Alcatel Lucent and Ericsson circles the wagon. Europe needs to drop its anti-merger position and instead push telecommunications companies to share spending and expertise in research and networks. The former head of European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co...http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282320816/27/2012 7:25:03 PMLahcim LeinadI spent weeks gathering info on that and posting it on this thread. Read it, then let's discuss. Right now, there is a nice cold beer waiting for me, and typing this is keeping me from it. Later....http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282320646/27/2012 7:14:30 PMelmatadorThe length and the correlation between exit and the lack of recovery implies that Nokia will also exit. But how, exactly? Will Nokia be acquired? If so, then by whom? What other options exist? How can we analyse this? businessspectator.com.au http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282320546/27/2012 7:11:31 PMelmatadorIn Finland, Nokia is apparently not too big to fail. Finnish Government Hangs Up on Nokia By Marcus Wohlsen In Finland, Nokia is apparently not too big to fail. Finland’s prime minister, Jyrki Katainen, says the government won’t prop up the ailing mobile phone maker by buying its shares, Reuters reports....http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282320326/27/2012 7:00:32 PMLahcim LeinadCommunities Dominate Brands: Revised Nokia 2012 Market Share Projections, Revenues, Profits ASPs by Quarter Excerpt: If you are an optimist, perhaps Microsoft and Nokia can grow by half their market share in one year, 2013. That would bring them up from 2% market share to.. 3%. Maybe you are a super-optimist and thin...http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282304176/27/2012 8:17:41 AMLahcim LeinadNokia ( NOK): Investors sold the July 2.50 calls and bought the July 3s. Volume was below open interest in both, suggesting that an existing bullish call spread was abandoned. The August 2 puts were also purchased for $0.22 as investors look for downside. Largest option buying in equities so far - Yahoo! Finance I'm ...http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282293416/26/2012 3:31:06 PMpcstelCarriers Fear Nokia Could Go Bankrupt Next Year Investment research firm, OTR Global, reveals that top carriers around the globe are losing faith in Nokia's power on the market. They no longer believe Nokia will remain a viable competitor in the global mobile marketplace. The OTR study quotes four officials from t...http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282279656/25/2012 11:58:40 PMLahcim LeinadThanks for starting this driveby shooting NOK thread! I stopped for a moment and picked up one of the spent shells today. I'll drop it like a hot potato if the victim slumps back to a hair above that and threatens to take away my pizza money.http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282271886/25/2012 3:54:24 PMpcstelhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282271646/25/2012 3:44:48 PMpcstelhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282270156/25/2012 2:29:43 PMpcstelhttp://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=282270096/25/2012 2:27:39 PM