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To: Christopher Gates who wrote (36)12/18/1996 4:36:00 PM
From: Marc D.   of 25960
 
Here it is:

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To: Christopher Gates who wrote (36)12/29/1996 11:09:00 PM
From: Gordon Hodgson   of 25960
 
I just sold some of my shares in CYMI to finance my buying some INTC Jan99 150 call options. Feel like an idiot for selling some of my CYMi as I still have high hopes for CYMI but just needed some cash for my foolish INTC LEAPS buy. Someone said buying jan99 150's is the next best thing to having the mint in your basement and I agree so right or wrong I bought 10 of them at 27

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To: Chris Grosse who wrote ()12/30/1996 5:28:00 PM
From: Michael Dunn   of 25960
 
I read Cymers latest 10Q. Amoung all of the other risks unique to this company they listed their competition. Komatsu and Lambda Physiks. Lamda Physiks is 80% owned by Coherent. Coherent is the top laser manufacturer in virtually every market in the world (Medical, diagnostic equipment, R&D, Industrial manufacturing and semiconductor equipment). Lambda Physiks (according to their 10K) is the world leader in excimer lasers. They recently expanded their facilities in order to meet growing demand for excimer lasers by semidonductor equipment companies.

Why would any company in the Lithography business buy a laser from Cymer a company with no production experience, a minimal support staff, little history, and lack of enough personnel when you can buy a laser from Coherent with a 25 year record, support personnel worldwide, and arguable (according to COHR) a better product? Amoung CYMI's stated risks in their 10Q is that they can find only one supplier for critical components like pre-ionization tubes and optics. Coherent doesn't have this problem, they make the worlds best excimer laser pre-ionization tubes and optics in-house.

More to the point why would anyone buy CYMI stock with no earnings history, little sales (yes it is growing), and at an outragous price.
Coherent has a P/E of 16 with 50% earning growth last year. CYMI has only ONE product. With COHR you get a company with growing medical, industrial, R&D, and Semiconductor related laser sales growth; They sell more excimer laser sales to Semi Equip companies than CYMI, and have a lower market Cap to boot. Check out the CYMI 10Q and compare it to COHR 10K. I would buy COHR and short CYMI but, with all the hype surrounding CYMI I'm probably better off in the short run to just buy twice as much COHR.

Check out the Coherent thread and their 10K and compare it to Cymer's 10Q before you put to much faith (money) into an over hyped company with only one good product.

Mike

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To: Neal A. Davis who wrote (5)12/30/1996 10:59:00 PM
From: Dowjoe   of 25960
 
Just curious what your current opinion is and what you found out about Interactive software -if that is the name of the Co. I look forward to visitingCymer & getting the tour. dowjoe@prodigy.net

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To: Michael Dunn who wrote (40)1/2/1997 7:38:00 PM
From: Christopher Gates   of 25960
 
Michael,

I have not checked Coherents #'s but do know Cymers growth rate has to be 300-400% more than Coherents for 1996. Lets talk about 1997. Morgan Stanley put out a research report predicting a growth rate of another 200% for 1997. I follow your reasoning but the two stocks are two very different companies.

Why buy a laser from Cymer when you can buy it from Coherent? Cymers three largest customers all own a portion of Cymer. Why buy a laser from a company you don't own a portion of? I bet that since they own some of Cymer they have been steering Cymer the right way.

Don't get me wrong the price is very high. In fact I sold some today. However I still hold some and will continue to buy on dips as long as the growth is still there.

Chris

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To: Christopher Gates who wrote (42)1/3/1997 1:57:00 PM
From: Stephanie Mocilan   of 25960
 
Hi guys. In speaking with an exec at Cymer, I was told that they have raised their sales expectations from 250K lasers in '97 to 750K. That's a huge expectation increase. I also understand that one of those companies owning a piece and doing business with CYMI is INTC. I find that very interesting. I also took some profits, as a trader I must, but also am looking for my charts to kick out a buy signal which we are nearing. We are in a correction that is not finished yet.

My systems has not been wrong too often, if anything, I am too early for some moves for others right on. For example, I was searching for a good chart and stumbled on a stock @ $20 1/2 and bought thinking if it backs up to 18 I'll get more. Next session it opened at $23 (I thought well my target is $30) so I held. Next session I was on vacation and got a call that I hit my target, did I want to sell. I said wait a day for confirmation. BINGO, Monday I got a call @ 49 1/2 and did a market sell. This unknown company to me was TSRI. So my charts aren't too bad.

I will post when I am buying, if anyone cares. I just like the fact that Intel like this company alot.

Stephanie

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To: Stephanie Mocilan who wrote (43)1/6/1997 12:12:00 AM
From: Christopher Gates   of 25960
 
Stephanie,

750 sounds like 97 and 98 combined. Their plan was to do 137 in 96 (morgan stanley research report 12/16/96). Morgan figured on 322 in 97 and 410 in 98. I'm sure Cymer will try to beat this but that is quite a jump. I believe that the market for stepper machines world wide for 97 is 1000-1200. That would mean Cymer would have close to 3/4 of the market. I hope so but doubt it. 750 machines at an average cost of roughly $400,000 would be $300,000,000 in revenues for 97. That would be quite a jump from 96. Once again I sincerely hope they do 750 machines as I am long on CYMI. Please correct me if I am wrong on the 1000 - 1200 stepper machines for 97.

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To: Christopher Gates who wrote (44)1/6/1997 12:43:00 PM
From: Stephanie Mocilan   of 25960
 
What can I say, when the CFO says 750 in '97 who am I to disagree. I also hear that once over $50 they should announce a 2 for 1 stock split.

Intel is suspected in taking a larger stake in CYMI.

IMO

Stephanie

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To: Stephanie Mocilan who wrote (25)1/6/1997 7:46:00 PM
From: Starlight   of 25960
 
Stephanie (& all of you) - Take a look at the JMAR website - www.jmar.com. JMAR is another San Diego company and it seems to me they are in a similar business as Cymer (but with additional businesses as well). They took delivery last summer of a U.S. govt.-owned x-ray stepper from Bell Labs, that was developed at a cost of $25 million. The web site has a lot of info, so I won't add any more here except to say that the stock is currently selling for less than $2.50. The company is profitable.

Join us at the JMAR topic in STOCKS $5 & UNDER.

Betty

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To: Christopher Gates who wrote (42)1/7/1997 10:54:00 AM
From: Michael Dunn   of 25960
 
Good points. Thanks for the feedback.

Mike

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