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To: Amit Ghate who wrote (46)2/22/1997 8:28:00 PM
From: Eric Tai   of 2769
 
Hi Amit, Bill, I dust off my Diamondfield binder and find some info of Diamond Field. It was sold at Aug 21, 1996.
It had an Ovoid zone, Norteast Extention and an Eastern Deep zone.
At the time of sale, the measured and indicated resouces
of the Ovoid zone and adjacent Northeast Extension is
at 31.5 million tonnes grading 2.84% Ni, 1.69% Cu and 0.12% Co.
They drilled quite a number of holes in the bigger Eastern Deep
zone but has not calculated the resources yet.
But at the time of sale, Inco is estimating that it has a potential reserve and resources of 150 million tonnes of material of similar grade.
So let us assume that it will have 150 million tonnes of material
with similar grade of the Ovoid zone.
Using the metal price of Ni at US$3.2/lb, Cu at US$0.9/lb and
Co at US$21/lb on the Aug 21 week, we can arrive at
a per tonne value (about 2200 lb) of US$288.
For 150 million tonnes, it is about US$43 billion.
On that day, the exchange rate is about US$0.73/ C$1.
So it is worth about C$59 billion.
Inco paid with a package of securities for Diamond Field which Northern Miner estimated worth about C$4.5 billion.
So price paid : in ground metal value = C$4.5/C$59 =7.6%

Actually this is quite a good price considering that the resources
are not fully proven.
Why Inco is paying so much? Probably they think there will much
be more goodies around there -- which later proved to be the case.
Inco also want to maintain the #1 position in world Ni production.
Also the grade is high and thus the future profit margin will be high.

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To: Eric Tai who wrote (49)2/22/1997 9:57:00 PM
From: Amit Ghate   of 2769
 
Eric thanks for looking that up and posting it here. I have often heard that a premium is paid for "world class" deposits, whatever the minerals, so maybe a safer, more realistic valuation for Canmine would be 2%-4%.

You mentioned on the IPMCF thread that you typically use 2%, but considering your post here, maybe 3% is the best working number.

I'm on my way out for the evening, but I'll try to play with the numbers in the next couple of days and then post here.

Thanks again, and please stick around.

Cordially,

Amit

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To: Eric Tai who wrote (49)2/22/1997 9:58:00 PM
From: bill   of 2769
 
Thanks. Now, the question is "How much tonnage is there at Maskwa?"
The strike length seems long. A hundred feet is, I think, deep.
But how wide?

The amazing thing is the psychological element to stocks. Cartaway
went to 24.00 on nothing but rumours. If they'd hit a hundred foot
intersection of the same grades as CMR has at Maskwa, the stock
price would have gone crazy. All because of location. It has
to be another Diamond Fields! would have been the response, even
though there's not particular reason to assume the same volume.

CMR has been getting cobalt grades that are eye-popping. Predicted
cash flow is amazing. The company has hit on the Fer, on the cobalt
propery, on Maskwa and it looks like their jv at Nipigon is going
to continue their winning streak. The stock market yawns and the
price drifts back. One of these days I'm going to ask the president
to walk on water just to see if it'll have any effect. Probably not.
A big stock holder I know says that the problem is that the Fer
and the cobalt property are too close to home.They should be in
some distant place that nobody can find on a map. Then Canadian
fantasies can run wild.

"Who was the comedian some years ago that did a schtik "I get
no respect."

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To: Amit Ghate who wrote (48)2/23/1997 8:13:00 AM
From: Dietmar Beckherrn   of 2769
 
<< and I the deposit seems to be closer to the surface which should definitely improve the economics of mining it.>>

did you know that the holes are drilled at an angle of 45...
so we are talking about 30 feet depth. That is fine for open pit - low cost mining.

But I am still very unsatisfied with Canmines information politics. No tonnage - no drill-map - very little other stuff.

Why cant they compute tonnages and stipping ratios via 3'rd party engineering firms like everybody else in the industry...

well more wait and see, I guess,

Dietmar

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To: bill who wrote (51)2/23/1997 6:10:00 PM
From: Ralph Kern   of 2769
 
Rodney Dangerfield was the comedian. I think tonnage will be around 3 million tons. I heard a rumor that the ore body could be 5 million tons. Falconbridge has to decide whether or not to bring this project to production in the next two weeks. Big mining companies usually like to have a mine life of 10-15 years to warrant the capital expenditure. I don't think there will be free flow of information until Falconbridge makes a decision. It doesn't really matter to us Canminer's as the stock is definitely undervalued and the only way to go is up. What remains to be determined is whether the stock is worth 8 or 20 dollars. Time will tell!

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To: Ralph Kern who wrote (53)2/26/1997 5:21:00 PM
From: Luc Beaugrand   of 2769
 
Dow Jones says Chelekis settles with SEC

Urban Resource Technologies Inc URT
Shares issued 30,454,457 Feb 25 close $0.15
Wed 26 Feb 97 In the News
Also Luminart Inc (LUMN)
Also Quest International Resources Corp (QIX)
Also Canmine Resources Corp (CMR)
Dow Jones News Service reports this morning that George Chelekis and two
companies controlled by him have agreed with the US Securities and Exchange
Commission to pay fines totalling US$162,727, without admitting or denying
the charges against them made by the SEC. It alleged that Mr Chelekis and
his companies, KGC Inc and Hot Stocks Review Inc, failed to disclose that
they received at least $1.1 million and 275,500 shares of stock, as payment
for recommending companies' securities in his Internet publications. Paul
Gerlach, associate director at the SEC's division of enforcement, named six
of some 150 companies that paid Mr Chelekis and his publications for
promoting them on the Internet. Four of the six were Canadian: Urban
Resource Technologies, Canmine Resources, Quest International Resources and
Luminart Inc. Mr Gerlach declined to say whether the companies themselves
were being investigated.

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To: Luc Beaugrand who wrote (54)2/27/1997 2:53:00 AM
From: Amit Ghate   of 2769
 
Has anyone seen the Cheklis promotion of Canmine? If so could they please post it (or a URL) here?

Amit

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To: Amit Ghate who wrote (55)2/27/1997 10:04:00 AM
From: bill   of 2769
 
I remember it. It was a long time ago. Stock was very low. I'mnot sure I stil have it but I'll look in my files. I remember it casued a bit
of a run.

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To: Amit Ghate who wrote (55)3/5/1997 5:15:00 AM
From: Dietmar Beckherrn   of 2769
 
Hi Amit,

finally I have received the press release (on paper - sorry) that deal with the Cheklis promotion.

It clearly states that "some media" have distributed wrong facts about the company and that the company encourages everybody to check directly with the company for fact based information.

I am not sure if I understood this one correctly but I left the phone with the impresseion that CMR has not hired hin to do a promo. They rather have paid him some change for the right to re-print an article on that he somehow had the the rights to.
Maybe someone can verify this again with the comany.

So for now I cannot see any qustionable behavior or other wrondoings by the comany.

Unfurtionately this has depressed our stock price. sniff-

Dietmar

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To: Dietmar Beckherrn who wrote (57)3/6/1997 9:40:00 PM
From: Ralph Kern   of 2769
 
See today's press release on Canada Newswire. Interesting. What do you think the resource estimate will do to the bottom line and stock price?

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