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To: LindyBill who wrote (30985)12/10/2011 3:28:59 PM
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Men: AAU ex-CEO sexually abused them Amateur Athletic Union announces investigation, contacts police about allegations
By Tom Farrey
ESPN.com
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AAU Pres. Focus Sexual Assault Investigation
Two former players on AAU President Bobby Dodd's Memphis club allege he molested them in the 1980s

AAU Pres. Focus Sexual Assault Investigation
Memphis police are investigating allegations made by two former players that Amateur Athletic Union president and chief executive officer Robert "Bobby" Dodd molested them in the 1980s.

On Friday, the AAU announced that it had contacted Memphis police after AAU officials learned from ESPN's "Outside the Lines" about allegations made by the two players. The AAU also announced its own investigation, that Dodd would not be returning to the organization after a medical leave, and named an interim leader.

"Outside the Lines" tried several times Thursday and Friday to contact Dodd about various abuse allegations. Dodd, 63, the AAU's top executive since 1992, did not respond to in-person visits at his home and AAU offices, telephone calls or email to answer questions about the allegations. The players allege a pattern of inappropriate touching of them by Dodd, masturbation by Dodd while they slept in hotel rooms during tournaments, and players younger than 16 being supplied alcohol.





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Memphis police on Friday night issued a statement from Memphis Police Director Toney Armstrong: "The Memphis Police Department takes allegations of child sexual abuse very seriously. Although this case has its challenges due to the amount of time that has passed, it will be thoroughly examined; and if the investigation reveals the law was violated, the person responsible will be held accountable."

One of the former players making the allegations said Friday night that a Memphis detective had contacted him and said that the AAU had supplied the names of three former players who had alleged abuse to the organization.

Two players told OTL they had contacted the AAU in early November with claims that Dodd had molested them. AAU first vice president Louis Stout, who is the interim president, told OTL on Thursday evening that he was not made aware of the allegations but should have been.

Ralph West, 43, of Miami showed "Outside the Lines" an email he said he sent to the AAU's compliance department on Nov. 9 about Dodd's alleged behavior. In it, West wrote, "Bobby Dodd is a pedophile that assaulted me in Memphis in 1984. I am speaking to a reporter and attorney." West later contacted a reporter for OTL but said he decided not to hire an attorney.

The second former player, who spoke to OTL only on the condition of anonymity, said he called Dodd on Nov. 11 and confronted him about his "sick" behavior and that Dodd apologized for the alleged abuse. OTL verified the 8-minute phone call to Dodd by examining telephone records.






ESPNAAU president and chief executive officer Bobby Dodd, shown in a 2000 "Outside the Lines" report.


The former players allege behavior and actions that occurred between the ages of 12 and 16 under the supervision of Dodd, a YMCA director in the 1980s who still directs Memphis-based AAU teams that are among the best in the nation. Among the players who have passed through his club over the years are former NBA players William Bedford, Vincent Askew and Anfernee "Penny" Hardaway.

The players alleging molestation said they also saw hundreds of photographs of the clothed backsides and crotches of AAU players in one of Dodd's filing cabinets, and bags filled with dozens of pairs of teenage boys' old underwear with names and dates on them. They said that he had a hair fetish and would keep in envelopes the boys' hair that he had pulled out in impromptu wrestling matches where he would also grope them. They said he often used petroleum jelly to affix hair to the dashboard of his car.

The former player who spoke anonymously also alleges that Dodd drugged him when he was a youth. He also said Dodd offered to pay him $1,000 if he agreed to have oral sex performed on him while he was blindfolded and bound. West spoke about once catching Dodd hiding in the attic of his house, in his underwear, with a video camera after telling players they could use his house to party with their girlfriends because he would be out of town.

Both former players said they had never approached the police with such allegations and only recently shared their accounts with their families.

"Outside the Lines" notified Dodd and his administrative assistant on Thursday afternoon that former players had shared their accounts with ESPN, and OTL requested comment from Dodd, who was still listed on the AAU website Friday as president and CEO. Thursday evening, 15 minutes after OTL attempted to speak with Dodd at his home, his assistant responded with a brief email, stating only that Dodd had cancer and retired from the AAU on Nov. 29 for health reasons.

His departure, and the allegations of sexual abuse, came as news to other top AAU leaders Thursday night.

"That's the first I've heard of any of it," said Robin Brown-Beamon, national chairwoman for the AAU athletics executive committee, who claimed to be a longtime friend of Dodd's.

Stout of the AAU said that Dodd told him in late November that he was having surgery and planned to retire from the organization he had built into one of the largest and most powerful in youth sports. But Stout said he encouraged him to hold off on announcing as much until after he got through the surgery and had a chance to speak with his doctor.

West and the accuser who requested anonymity, who played at different times for Dodd, said they independently -- and without knowing about the other -- confronted Dodd last month about what they recalled after seeing news reports of the alleged sexual abuse by former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky. The former player who requested anonymity said he was shocked to learn from Dodd in the November telephone call that West had recently contacted Dodd with similar allegations.



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ESPN"Outside the Lines" viewed a copy of an email Ralph West said he sent to AAU's compliance office about AAU president and chief executive officer Bobby Dodd.


West said that no one from the AAU followed up on his Nov. 9 email that he sent to the compliance department alleging that Dodd was a pedophile. He said he sent the note to the AAU because he was concerned that Dodd still had access to children through his Memphis AAU club, and as the head of a national organization that serves more than 500,000 children.

"That's when I said, 'No, this isn't going to happen,'" said West, who added that he reached out to "Outside the Lines" after getting no response from the AAU.

West, who became physically ill on camera as he relayed his account to OTL, said Dodd either abused or attempted to abuse him a half-dozen times from 1983-85. He said each incident occurred in a similar fashion: "He would always try and sneak into the room, coming up to you in the middle of the night. That's his thing; he comes in the middle of the night and you don't hear anything ... and he's trying to reach his hand in your underwear, basically."

West said Dodd first touched his penis on a basketball trip to Daytona Beach, Fla., in 1983, when he was 15.

"It was late, it must have been three in the morning," he said. "I was dead asleep and I don't remember anything but waking up and he has his, he's trying to put his hand in my boxer shorts. And I jumped up straight out of the bed and he's not there, but he's laying on the floor next to me down by the bed. And I ... of course I was freaked out."

West said Dodd fondled him, tried to fondle him or masturbated in front of him at tournaments in Florida, Louisiana and Tennessee, at the AAU Junior Olympics in South Bend, Ind., and at Dodd's home in Memphis.

"I was afraid to even fall asleep when he was around," West said. "It got to where I would barricade (myself in the) hotel room. I would take the table and chairs and I'd block it all against the door. And it got to where he couldn't assault me but he would push his way in the room and he'd lay at the floor of the bed masturbating. You just lay there horrified. But you don't know what to do. What, are you going to blow the lid off of this at 14 years old? All you want to do is pretend it didn't happen and not address it at all. You want to hide and bury it."

West is married with two children and works as a chef in Miami. He said he has lived a more mature life after struggles in young adulthood with alcohol, issues brought on, in part he says, by the abuse. Those struggles led to arrests, and he was convicted of reckless driving, driving under the influence and possession of a controlled substance in separate events from 1988 to 1991.





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Nicole Noren/ESPNRalph West said he decided to speak publicly about allegations that Bobby Dodd sexually assaulted him because he hates to think what he experienced might still be occurring with other children today.


The other former player was a member of one of Dodd's club teams several years after West. He said Dodd began touching him inappropriately when he was 12 when Dodd convinced his parents to allow him to spend the night at his house before weekend games that he would referee at the local facility where Dodd ran a basketball league for little kids. He says Dodd had him sleep in the man's own bed.

"He would just roll over," the player said, "and I can remember trying to just lay on my stomach, to where he didn't have any access to my waistband ... private parts, thinking, 'This night seems like the longest night ever. Just let me see some light through the curtains so I can get out of here.'"

West, who worked for Dodd at the East Memphis YMCA in addition to playing on his teams, said Dodd first touched him when he once showered at the facility. He said touching would continue in wrestling matches Dodd would initiate.

"He would want to wrestle or put you like in a headlock, and I started noticing him pulling, pulling my hair out," he said. "And I was, at the time you just think you know, you tell him 'Man, what are you doing? ... That hurts, you're pulling my hair out by the root.'

"I started noticing that he would have the hair in the car. That he'd pick me up for school and there'd be a hair on the dashboard and it's a blonde hair."

West said Dodd tried to keep him close to him by paying for him to attend a Christian school on the other side of Memphis, picking him up and dropping him off every day in his red Corvette. West's sister, Michelle, said she recalls Ralph attempting to distance himself from Dodd but never saying why, and that Dodd worked hard to earn the family's confidence.

Tax forms show that the AAU paid Dodd, who is single with no children, $270,000 a year to run its national office, located on the grounds of Walt Disney World Resorts. Disney's 30-year deal with the AAU was signed in 1994, and allows the AAU to host sports events and lease an office building on Walt Disney World Resort property. The AAU moved into that building when the Wide World of Sports complex opened in 1997.

"The AAU has recently been made aware of some serious allegations about President Robert W. 'Bobby' Dodd, dating back several decades," the AAU said in a statement Friday. "The AAU has opened an independent investigation into these matters and also has contacted local law enforcement in Memphis, where the activities allegedly occurred. We will actively cooperate with any and all authorities to determine the facts and the truth.

"Mr. Dodd also is dealing with some serious current health issues related to his diagnosis and recent surgery and treatment for colon cancer. He will not be returning to his positions as President and Executive Director of AAU.

"The officers of the AAU are stepping up to shoulder all additional responsibilities necessary to ensure that our operations can smoothly continue. As First Vice President of AAU, I [Stout] have been asked and authorized to now serve as interim President."

Disney owns ESPN, which is a major sponsor of a variety of AAU programs and broadcasts many AAU events.

Brian Besanceney, senior vice president/public affairs, Walt Disney World & Worldwide Government and Industry Relations, said: "ESPN Wide World of Sports hosts hundreds of different organizations for sporting competitions and events each year and none of the organizations, including the AAU, have independent access to these facilities. Our property is comprised of over 28,000 acres, and the AAU office space is not located near a theme park."

A Disney source said Disney has not received any complaints about Dodd related to sexual abuse. The source said Disney learned of the allegations through ESPN's reporting and not from the AAU.

Disney did not have a role in prompting the AAU to handle the situation in the manner that it did Friday -- contacting Memphis police and announcing that Dodd would not return to his positions with the AAU. "That was an internal decision of theirs," the source said.



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Courtesy of Ralph WestRalph West, far right, and Bobby Dodd, center, in the 1980s.


Under Dodd, the AAU has added national championships down to the second grade level. By catering to travel teams for children, Dodd has doubled the AAU's membership in the past 10 years and attracted major sponsors, including ESPN The Magazine, which coaches can sell to raise funds for their programs. The AAU has also fortified its position within the culture of its primary sport -- basketball. Last year, Dodd joined the advisory board of iHoops, the official youth basketball initiative of the NCAA and NBA, which promotes coach certification. AAU is also an affiliate of USA Basketball, the governing body of the sport.

As AAU president, Dodd has resisted pleas by leaders within the youth sports industry to adopt mandatory background checks on coaches. Still, AAU rules forbid the participation of any coach or administrator facing potentially credible allegations of sexual misconduct. It's unclear if the AAU took any action internally with Dodd after it received the email note from West. Stout said nothing was shared with him, and he's never heard of Dodd being involved with sexual abuse.

"The officers would have held a meeting if there was a situation like that," he said. Asked who was in charge of the AAU now, with Dodd apparently gone, Stout said, "You're talking to him."

West told "Outside the Lines" that Dodd also was a voyeur -- he once attempted to secretly film West, then a teenager, having sex with a girl. He said that Dodd invited him and others to use his apartment while he was supposedly going out of town. Instead, Dodd was found by a female friend of West who noticed an attic door was ajar in the bedroom.

"He's in the attic and he's looking down ... and the girl opens the door and she -- they looked at each other, and she screams," West said. "She goes, 'there's somebody up there.' And so, we leave immediately, but we wait outside the front door, and you could hear him crawling out of the -- out of the attic."

West said Dodd had a video camera and a jar of petroleum jelly, and that the attic area contained a twin mattress. One of the girls from that night confirmed the incident to OTL on Wednesday evening: "To the best of my recollection, that did happen," she said, speaking only on the condition of anonymity.

West said shortly after that, Dodd bought a home in rural Mississippi and asked West and a teammate, Orien Watson, to move a file cabinet from his bedroom. He said they opened the filing cabinet and discovered male pornography, players' underwear, photos of players' crotches and butts in uniform, and a manila envelope of locks of boys' hair. Watson confirmed the account to OTL.

A fourth former player, who requested anonymity, said it was common knowledge among players who traveled that their underwear would at times go missing.

"I'm thinking this guy's -- this guy's sick, and that's it. It was very shortly after that I quit the team," West said.

Watson said he was never molested by Dodd. But players on the team heard that West was being abused, he said, and didn't know what to do with the information.

"When Ralph was playing, we just laughed about it, I guess because most of us didn't experience what he experienced," said Watson, a star who went on to play at Mississippi State.

Watson said he finds it "sad" that the revelations are coming out now, more than 25 years later. "Bobby helped a lot of kids over the years," he said.

The second player alleging Dodd inappropriately touched him also said that Dodd plied him with alcohol, at one point drugging him.

"Looking back on it now, I know for a fact that he put something in my, in my drink that night because the last thing that I can really remember was him carrying me into his bedroom," he said. "I can remember him touching me in ways that I didn't want another man touching me." He said woke up about 3 p.m. the next day "feeling [like] somebody had just beat me with a baseball bat." He said he didn't recall what happened: "I can just remember those things and probably don't want to remember."





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Nicole Noren/ESPNRalph West said he was a childhood victim of sexual assault by AAU president and chief executive officer Bobby Dodd.


He said he cut ties with Dodd after he was offered $1,000 to accept oral sex.

Some 20-plus years later, the former player said he contacted Dodd on Nov. 11, memories prompted by the Sandusky case. Phone records provided to "Outside the Lines" show an eight-minute call to Dodd on Nov. 11.

"I said, 'I'm basically going to ask you one time and I want to know the truth -- did you drug me that night you provided me with alcohol?'," the former player said, relating his talk with Dodd. "And his answer was basically, it wasn't yes, it wasn't no. It was, 'Well, if I did, I don't remember,' so I just told him that basically answered my question, that yeah, you did it to me.

"And we went into other stuff, like I told him, 'You have no business being around young kids.' And, 'Over the years, how many kids have you done this to?' The only thing he really said to me is ... 'All I can say is I'm sorry.'

"I said, 'You, you're a sick son of a bitch.' "

The alleged victim said he had no idea that two days earlier West -- whom he hadn't spoken with in 25 years -- had also contacted Dodd's office.

"I'm not looking for any type of compensation, I'm not trying to sue him or the YMCA or -- I want nothing to do with that," West said. "All I want is his exposure. I want him exposed as the fraud that he is, and I don't want him around -- he needs to have no contacts with boys, none. He shouldn't be coaching, he shouldn't be the director of the AAU, and he shouldn't be presenting the fraud that he is out there with the AAU. The guy's a pedophile, and he somehow has managed to enrich himself off of it."

ESPN Enterprise Unit reporter Tom Farrey can be reached at tom.farrey@espn.com. Producers Nicole Noren and William Weinbaum contributed to this report.



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To: LindyBill who wrote (30985)12/10/2011 4:23:37 PM
From: longnshort
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Tebow Makes Call To Boy Battling Cancer

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From: LindyBill12/10/2011 11:59:53 PM
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EditorialNEW YORK TIMES


Tebowing on the Gridiron, and Off Published: December 10, 2011
As football zealots channel-switch across the grim winter solstice, they are agog at the unorthodox form of Tim Tebow. He is a charismatic journeyman quarterback who cannot throw reliable forward passes, yet has run up (literally) a 6-and-1 record for the Denver Broncos after being summoned in desperation from the bench.


Tebow, the son of Christian missionaries, shows his faith after touchdowns by going down on one knee before the arena throng and lowering forehead to fist in divine homage. He resembles Rodin’s Thinker more than a humbled pilgrim. But the dramatic posture has caused a parallel sensation to his play. A Web site — tebowing.com — lets people recreate his pose against the world’s backdrops and post them proudly online.

A few of our favorites: outside the Taj Mahal, before a department store Santa throne, and in a maternity ward, where a new father tenderly Tebows with child.



This week’s bookmaker odds may not support the notion that faith matters on the field. But Tebow has made his team believe in winning and has forced commentators to backpedal from clichés about momentum on any given day. Tebow is lowly rated statistically except in the fourth quarter. Then he delivers miracles after unabashedly citing Proverbs 27:17 to his mates in the locker room: “Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another.”

National Football League scripture, of course, holds that nothing succeeds like success. Hometown fans rally to this text. Tim Tebow had best run his team all the way into a playoff berth to avoid the turnabout of Proverbs 24:10 — “If you falter in times of trouble, how small is your strength!”

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From: TimF12/11/2011 10:29:05 AM
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Who's to Blame for the Colts' Post-Peyton Misery? The Colts
By Cameron Martin

Oct 27 2011, 2:30 PM ET

Indianapolis built its entire strategy around Manning, neglecting to craft an defense or train a backup quarterback. No wonder the team's fallen apart since he got injured.

Reuters

The biggest difference between the 2011 Indianapolis Colts and its roster from the previous 13 seasons is obviously the absence of quarterback Peyton Manning. The four-time Most Valuable Player may just deserve the award again this season - because he hasn't played a single down and the team has gone 0-7 without him: an unorthodox but unassailable case for his value.

League observers have said for years that the team was too Manning-centric, that the team's success was invested too heavily in the ability of their future Hall of Fame quarterback to tally points and keep pressure off their defense. And yet the team's front office did little or nothing to change the delicate dynamic. Only a historic combination of poor planning, hubris, and run-of-the-mill injuries could turn a team that was 14-0 through week 15 of the 2009 season into the 0-7 team that limped off the field after getting shellacked 62-7 by the Saints on Sunday night. And for all you hear about "Suck for Luck"—the 2011 NFL buzz term for teams purposely tanking in order to secure the No. 1 pick in next spring's draft, a slot that will likely be filled by Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck—the Colts really aren't that bad. They may be on pace for zero wins, but these are not the second coming of the 2008 Detroit Lions, the only team to finish a 16-game season with no wins. No, in some ways they're more disappointing. During the decade from 2000 to 2009, the Colts won more regular-season games than any franchise in the NFL. They won more than 12 games a record seven seasons in a row (2003-2009), yet they were often unfavorably compared with baseball's Atlanta Braves: For all their regular-season success, the Colts only managed one championship.

Before Manning and his teammates finally broke through and won a title against the Bears following the 2006 season, he had a reputation as a statistical juggernaut who couldn't win the big game. Even now, after winning one Super Bowl and appearing in another versus the Saints after the 2009 season, Manning's career postseason record stands at a pedestrian 9-10. By contrast, the playoff record of the Patriots' Tom Brady, the one quarterback with whom Manning is consistently compared, is a superlative 14-5, with Brady winning three Super Bowls to Manning's one. But when Brady was knocked out for the 2008 season with a leg injury in the first game, the Patriots rallied around their untested backup, Matt Cassel, went 11-5 and almost made the playoffs. Does the Patriots' success that season prove that Manning, not Brady, is the more valuable of the two quarterbacks? It seems you can make that argument. But here's another argument you can make: The Patriots were better able to withstand the loss of their quarterback because they had a respectable defense that finished fourth in the NFL that year. Sure, Cassel had to step up and play well in Brady's absence, but the team had to collectively compensate for the loss of their best player. The 2011 Colts have not done that, because they're not constructed to do that. They've never been constructed to do that.

Team vice chairman Bill Polian and his son, Chris, the general manager, were so ill-prepared for Manning's health issues (he's had three neck surgeries in the last 19 months and has an outside chance of returning this season) that right before the season started they lured Kerry Collins out of retirement to fill in for Manning until, well, they weren't sure. The Colts' front office had seen Manning start 208 straight regular-season games since 1998—second only to Brett Favre's all-time record of 297—so they'd apparently been lulled into believing that Manning was impregnable. When reality proved otherwise, the Polians started to scramble, looking like car owners who realize it's a good idea to have car insurance only after they've run a red light and t-boned a city bus.

Rather than entrusting Curtis Painter, the backup quarterback they drafted in 2009 in the sixth round (the same round, by the way, that Brady had been drafted by New England in 2000), the Colts panicked and offered $4 million to a retired quarterback who was at home working on a country music album. These types of decisions don't engender much confidence in a team's fan base. As Stampede Blue, a Colts fan site, put it, "Signing Collins, and the gross under-valuing of Painter, were pretty colossally stupid decisions in a 2011 off-season defined by front office incompetence."

Collins' stint atop the depth chart in Indianapolis was short-lived due to injuries. In three mediocre outings, the former Penn State star completed less than half of his passes, threw for two touchdowns, and tossed one interception, clearing the way for Painter to take over. Following a series of concussions, the team this week placed Collins on injured reserve and ended his season (and likely his career).

Painter, a Purdue graduate who also went to high school in Indiana, has played fair thus far in his five-game stint as the quarterback. It's been a small sample size, but Painter has thrown five touchdown passes against two interceptions, with three fumbles as well. Has he been great? Far from it. But if you go by quarterback rating—a metric that's not without its flaws—Painter is 12th in the NFL, ahead of quarterbacks such as Michael Vick, Andy Dalton, Jay Cutler, Mark Sanchez, Cam Newton, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, and Josh Freeman. Painter's problem isn't that he's terrible, because he's not; his problem is that he's not nearly as good as Peyton Manning. And you need someone of Manning's capability to overcome the problems inherent to the Colts—problems that have existed for a decade.

Football is often touted as the ultimate team sport, where the strength of a team's offense or defense is defined by their weakest link. But with the Colts, their offense and their defense have been defined by their strongest offensive link, Manning. With so much of the team's success predicated on his health, it seems impossible that the team would go through the last decade with this series of backup quarterbacks—Mark Rypien, Brock Huard, Jim Sorgi and Painter. And yet the team has been stubborn in its philosophy: Rely on Manning and the offense to score a lot of points; rely on the quickness of the defense to produce sacks when the opposition is forced to throw. But another glaring weakness in this approach—at least when Manning is removed from the equation—is that the Colts' defense has been consistently mediocre (if not terrible) at stopping the opponent's running game. So if the Colts aren't scoring points and the opposition has the lead, the Colts' defense can always expect a healthy dose of running by the other team's offense.

Since 1998, when Manning first entered the league, the Colts have ranked in the bottom half of the NFL in rush defense every single year. In eight of those 13 seasons, they've ranked 24th or lower, which is the lower 25th percentile. Even the year they won the Super Bowl (2006), they were dead last in the league against the run. This year, they're second to last. No doubt the season-ending injuries to linebacker Gary Brackett and safety Melvin Bullitt have hurt. But how much difference would they have made? Last year, with those two players, the team finished 25th in the league in run defense. The only way a good team—a consistent winner that should be attractive to free agents—can be that consistently bad in one huge facet of the game is by willful ignorance. Bill Polian, who built championship-contending teams with the Bills and Panthers, is ultimately responsible for this cockeyed dynamic—the kind of all-in on Manning that can allow a team to win a Super Bowl with the league's worst rushing defense and then start 0-7 when the quarterback goes down.

Safe to say Polian, who has won the NFL's Executive of the Year Award six times, won't be earning that award this year. With the Colts' philosophy laid bare in such a public spectacle, he will probably be lucky to earn a paycheck from the team next season.

Yes, it's somewhat surprising that the Colts are 0-7 in 2011. But it's also somewhat surprising that this unraveling didn't happen earlier. Only Manning's exceptional run of health kept the team from being exposed before now. Luckily for the Colts, they don't play the Saints again this year. They do, however, play the hated Patriots and their top-ranked offense in the first week of December. Will the team risk further injury to Manning and bring him back in time for that game? Perhaps they will, if only to know if his career has hit a speed bump—or come to a screeching halt.

Manning's absence, while painful in the short run, might be the best thing for this organization in the long run. It's time the Colts learned to live without him. It's also time they do something about that atrocious run defense.

theatlantic.com

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From: Thomas M.12/11/2011 4:52:14 PM
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Was that the ghost of Mark Bavaro I saw running around on the field today?

Tom

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From: Sedohr Nod12/11/2011 7:04:26 PM
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Overtime in Denver after being down 10-0 with about 3 minutes to go.....phew.....59 yard field goal.

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To: longnshort who wrote (30987)12/11/2011 7:05:47 PM
From: Jim McMannis
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Why in the hello is my local channel still showing the packerraider 46-7 blowout while denver just tied it up? AHhrff

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From: Sedohr Nod12/11/2011 7:20:12 PM
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13-10 Denver.....Tebow?.....you betcha.

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To: Sedohr Nod who wrote (30993)12/11/2011 7:22:45 PM
From: Jim McMannis
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They still have the packers blowout on TV here...sheeesh.

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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (30994)12/11/2011 7:27:22 PM
From: Sedohr Nod
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I've been listening on the internet for most of Denver's comebacks....most of the time it has looked hopeless until the final score......pure misery for a fan for 90+% of the game.

Big numbers for the kid in the last few minutes.....amazing run of games.

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