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To: Grainne who wrote (108398)9/19/2005 7:08:58 PM
From: TimF   of 108797
 

Not so hard to accomplish, but not something that would IMO be an accomplishment.

As for the money spent in Iraq it would be only a small part of what would be required to fund a national health care system.

Tim

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To: Brumar89 who wrote (108369)9/19/2005 7:10:33 PM
From: TimF   of 108797
 

Wow, that certainly is a rather extreme viewpoint.

Tim

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To: Grainne who wrote (108422)9/19/2005 7:16:31 PM
From: Ish   of 108797
 
Just got the first reports on harvest. Corn will run about 175 and beans will be about 55 bushels per acre in a year that has seen 15% of rain of a normal year. 30 years ago the yield would have been 0 with non GMO crops. I'm glad to pay Monsanto $10,000 to have a gain of $50,000 instead of a loss of $30,000.

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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (108410)9/19/2005 11:45:07 PM
From: Alan Smithee   of 108797
 
. I personally don't believe the corporate owned media anymore. As far as I know no shots were fired at rescuers and the stories about that were planted to justify military action.,

It saddens me to think there are people out there with your POV.

What is it you have so much trouble understanding about ruthless thugs in NO shooting at rescuers?

Are you not aware that before the hurricane, NO had over 7 times the annual rate of homicides as other American Cities?

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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (108423)9/20/2005 12:03:44 AM
From: Grainne1 Recommendation   of 108797
 
I thought most literate, cultured people like yourself read at least the arts coverage in the NY Times. Perhaps not!

Most people who are extremely good at chess, especially as children, are probably very gifted intellectually. I think Bono is interesting in that regard because he doesn't have a college education (although Mrs. Bono does).

I think we have already established that Bono is no loon. Haven't we?

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To: TimF who wrote (108428)9/20/2005 12:18:19 AM
From: Grainne1 Recommendation   of 108797
 
I think societies, like individuals, accomplish the things that are a high priority for them. The U.S. under Bush seems to be a warmongering nation more than a society taking good care of its citizens, although it is possible that with the attention the poor are getting re Hurricane Katrina, that could change (for the good, I think).

Another problem with national health insurance is that there is a huge and powerful lobby against it. I think the U.S. government may be more influenced by lobbyists than the governments of the other first world nations. Medicine/pharmaceuticals have been very profitable in this country. I am not sure how you solve that problem.

I am not an expert on the way other countries set up national health insurance. Is it always totally from tax revenues, or do some of them ask individuals and/or employers to kick in?

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To: Ish who wrote (108430)9/20/2005 12:19:54 AM
From: Grainne1 Recommendation   of 108797
 
Ish, what is the relationship between GMO crops and the amount of rainfall?

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To: Brumar89 who wrote (108427)9/20/2005 12:26:01 AM
From: Grainne1 Recommendation   of 108797
 
The medicine dished out by the Veterans Administration is of very low quality, from everything I read. Medicaid covers very, very poor people. There is a huge and rapidly growing number of Americans who work who still have no health insurance. Everyone pays later as people are sicker when they finally get treatment. This is a tragedy that shouldn't occur in a first world country.

Bush's Medicare prescription benefit was badly designed from the articles I've read, and I seem to remember something about it benefiting large drug companies and at the same time being useless for quite a few Medicare recipients. This is not something I know a lot about, so please feel free to jump in and explain it to me.

How do countries with national health insurance handle malpractice suits? I agree that something needs to be done about this. At the same time, people who are damaged by medical care should have some legal recourse, with lower caps, I think.

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To: Suma who wrote (108424)9/20/2005 12:30:53 AM
From: Grainne1 Recommendation   of 108797
 
Suma, I'm sorry--I can't stand to watch or read too many really sad things about animals. They just make my heart ache! I tried to deal with what was happening in the Gulf Coast by contributing to animal efforts and posting resources for others to do the same, and to write to people in charge about helping them and changing the policies about not rescuing animals. But I would get sick knowing all the details. I saw a clip on tv of a golden retriever trapped on a front porch for days with no place to go, just waiting for someone to help him, and his face was so sad and puzzled, and I just melted. And that wasn't even gory or graphic! Thanks for posting everything, though.

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From: Grainne9/20/2005 12:31:55 AM
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Wal-Mart Accused of Denying Lunch Breaks

Sep 19, 10:24 PM (ET)

By DAVID KRAVETS

OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) - Lawyers representing about 116,000 former and current Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT) employees in California told a jury Monday that the world's largest retailer systematically and illegally denied workers lunch breaks.

The suit in Alameda County Superior Court is among about 40 cases nationwide alleging workplace violations against Wal-Mart, and the first to go to trial. Wal-Mart, which earned $10 billion last year, settled a lawsuit in Colorado for $50 million that contains similar allegations to California's class action. The company also is accused of paying men more than women in a federal lawsuit pending in San Francisco federal court.

The workers in the class-action suit are owed more than $66 million plus interest, attorney Fred Furth told the 12 jurors and four alternates.

"I will prove the reason they did this was for the God Almighty dollar," Furth said in his opening statement.

Nine jurors must side with the plaintiffs to prevail. Millions of dollars also are sought to punish the company for the alleged wrongdoing.

The case concerns a 2001 state law, which is among the nation's most worker friendly. Employees who work at least six hours must have a 30-minute, unpaid lunch break. If they do not get that, the law requires they are paid for an additional hour of pay.

The lawsuit covers former and current employees in California from 2001 to 2005.

Wal-Mart declined to give an opening statement, reserving its right to give one later. Its lawyers also declined comment.

In court documents, the Bentonville, Ark., company claims that workers did not demand penalty wages on a timely basis. Wal-Mart adds that it did pay some employees their penalty pay and, in 2003, most workers agreed to waive their meal periods as the law allows.

The Bentonville, Ark.-based company also says some violations were minor, such as demanding employees punch back in from lunch and work during their meal breaks. In essence, workers were provided a shorter meal period than the law allows.

The case does not claim that employees were forced to work off the clock during their lunch breaks.

The lawsuit was brought in 2001 by a handful of San Francisco-area former Wal-Mart employees, and took four years of legal wrangling to get to trial. During that time, Wal-Mart produced internal audits that plaintiffs' lawyers maintain showed the company knew it was not granting meal breaks on thousands of occasions.

That 2000 audit was given to top-level executives, according to evidence submitted to jurors Monday.

One company document called results of the audit "a chronic problem." A one-week review of company policies showed thousands of instances in which workers were not given a meal break in accordance with the law, according to the documents provided to the jury.

"This is Wal-Mart auditing Wal-Mart," Furth said.

On Tuesday, as many as three plaintiffs are expected to testify in a trial that will last weeks.

Several lawyers representing out-of-state Wal-Mart workers in class action lawsuits were in the gallery. Karin Kramer, a lawyer suing Wal-Mart on behalf of 50,000 Washington state company workers, said suing Wal-Mart is a gargantuan task.

"They can afford and do fight you on every single issue," she said.

Shares of Wal-Mart rose 14 cents to close at $44.01 Monday on the New York Stock Exchange.





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