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To: Jamey who wrote (38904)2/28/2005 4:11:29 PM
From: haqihana   of 39485
 
I agree that compassion, and charity, are of the most important points a Christian should pay attention to, and if all Christians would just worship Jesus as their Lord, and Savior, without straying from the holy path by fighting among themselves about doctrines that were created by humans, the influence of united Christianity could be a more potent factor in the entire world.

What Jesus asked us to to, was very simple. It is human beings that have complicated Christianity, and caused schisms.

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To: haqihana who wrote (38903)2/28/2005 5:47:16 PM
From: Sidney Reilly   of 39485
 
Actually, everybody has their own opinions, and all are entitled to them.

Are we entitled to them? As an American I guess we are (so far). But being an American won't get anyone into God's kingdom. Only being born again. Then the Word says we are not of this world. We are sojourners in a foreign land and that's how the Word advises us to think of ourselves. The Word does not say stand up for your rights under the constitution!! Not at all. If Jesus was here and was an American citizen He would have nothing to do with any of what it means to be an American. He would not vote or endorse a candidate. He would just reach out to the lost and ignore America. Has the Church replaced love of Jesus with a patriotic American Christianity.

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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (38906)3/1/2005 9:05:47 AM
From: haqihana   of 39485
 
Sidney, Since God granted humans free will, that would cause me to believe that we are each, and every, entitled to our opinions. But, as you say, opinions are not a factor in the ticket to Heaven. The point I was trying to make, is that Christianity is being done a disservice by Christians sects being at verbal war all the time.

I still maintain that the message of Jesus was very simple, easy to understand, and doesn't take a great deal of effort to follow,if one's heart has a clear view of the the intentions. It is the doctrines that have been contrived by humans that has caused the conflict between the very people that should be of one accord. I don't think that all the arguing, and sometimes hatred, between Christians, is what Jesus had in mind for us.

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To: MSB who wrote (38728)3/1/2005 1:12:15 PM
From: MSB   of 39485
 
FYI......

Andrew Wommack has been giving a teaching on the Book of Romans which I invite you to tune in to. Look for him on The Church Channel (Direct TV - 11 a.m. CST, my time). The teaching is in regard to our righteousness via Christ versus self-righteousness. It is so simple to understand!!

Staggering prediction (via Wommack): 85% of so-called believing Christians will not go to heaven because they're trying to attain righteous via their own works for Christ's sake.

Mike

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To: MSB who wrote (38908)3/1/2005 7:58:46 PM
From: Sidney Reilly   of 39485
 
What number is the church channel on direct tv? I believe that a large part of the Christian Church today won't go to heaven because they are deceived and will eventually take the mark of the beast. They are deceived by doctrines of demons that are rampant in the church today and they are rampant because Christians don't hear the voice of the Lord or know His word.

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To: Jane Hafker who wrote ()3/2/2005 8:01:16 AM
From: JakeStraw   of 39485
 
Any of you yahoos even bother to read the thread header?!!

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To: Jane Hafker who wrote ()3/2/2005 2:09:54 PM
From: JakeStraw   of 39485
 
Jane, I think you better grow up and learn it's not nice to tell others what to do especially when you sound like an ignorant moron doing it! BYE

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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (38906)3/3/2005 1:34:40 AM
From: Jamey   of 39485
 
Sidney, I commend you on your stand for Christian values. I personally believe that God is sovereign and all things, good and bad are used by God to bring his purposes to fruition in this world. God has raised up patriots, kings and Indian chiefs. We live in a free society today because we have strong deterrents and men who are willing to be brave and patriotic. Some of us must believe in God and Country to establish equal rights and freedom from oppression. Otherwise, we would not be speaking English but probably German or Japanese if no one stood up for country. I don't believe for a moment what you advocate would ever be what God desires or he would not have raised up all to be different.

There are many religious fundamentalists who would actually force their will upon us to live again as we were once forced to live. Letting a religious ruler or king burn us at the stake or torture us if we tried to express ourselves as free men, able to find our own understanding of God's Word as led by the Holy Spirit. Do you advocate another King George and Catholicism? I think not. As I say I admire your stand but I believe that we must not become rigid as the Church once was.

Christ was not rigid. He was very much a moderate.

James

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To: haqihana who wrote (38907)3/10/2005 9:32:08 AM
From: Mary Cluney   of 39485
 
I still maintain that the message of Jesus was very simple, easy to understand, and doesn't take a great deal of effort to follow,if one's heart has a clear view of the the intentions.

It is all in the interpretation.

I agree with you that the message of Jesus was very simple.

He taught love. He taught us to love our neighbors - no matter what. He couldn't be any clearer. Don't kill your neighbors - no matter what happens. Love thy neighbor. Love conquers all.

But a lot of Christians have different interpretations.

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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (38913)3/10/2005 10:56:48 AM
From: haqihana   of 39485
 
Mary, IMO, the different interpretations have come about because of the splintering of Christians into so many different denominations. As I read it, Jesus just wanted one, united, church, which consisted of every person that believed in Him as their Lord, and Savior, but when the will of men came into play, things got all screwed up.

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