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To: Lahcim Leinad who wrote (89472)1/16/2010 2:19:02 PM
From: sylvester80   of 154310
 
I consider your message offensive and a personal attack and nothing more. It is messages like that that cause equally offensive responses back. I truly do not see why you would not be able to respond without using such personal attacks. Nowhere did I question your hearing, or presumed for you to be wearing a hearing aid or be all but deaf (your statement "in both ears"). So try and stick to the subject matter without making it personal. And I'm not your "dude" either.

>>>Three words, already spoken here by Allen; you must have had that hearing aid turned off:

And please don't put words on other peoples mouths. Nowhere did I see Allen state that. So it makes your responses even less credible.

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To: sinclap who wrote (89479)1/16/2010 2:23:19 PM
From: sylvester80   of 154310
 
In Dec 2009 I bought a 2.1Ghz laptop core duo with 4Gb ram, 250Gb drive, DVD+RW, 15" screen Linux machine by MSI for $389 from Frys. Please show me how much a similar machine from Apple will cost.

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To: Cogito who wrote (89486)1/16/2010 2:30:07 PM
From: sylvester80   of 154310
 
I guess we'll have to wait and see if it matters. I remember that the average price of an average laptop 3-4 years back was $2K. I recently bought a "blow me away" 2.1Ghz core duo 15" Linux laptop with Nvidia graphics, 4Gb RAM, 250Gb 7200HDD and DVD+RW for $389 with a 2 year warranty (about the replacement time frame of a laptop these days). The trend of prices is down. And that's a trend that Apple's high margins would find it difficult to sustain... but time will tell...

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To: sylvester80 who wrote (89488)1/16/2010 2:36:17 PM
From: Lahcim Leinad   of 154310
 
Clearly, trying to be funny with you failed, on my part. Sorry about that. Therefore, being serious with you would be even more disastrous. Over and out, as far as you are concerned. Best!

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To: sylvester80 who wrote (89489)1/16/2010 2:36:24 PM
From: Cogito   of 154310
 
>>In Dec 2009 I bought a 2.1Ghz laptop core duo with 4Gb ram, 250Gb drive, DVD+RW, 15" screen Linux machine by MSI for $389 from Frys. Please show me how much a similar machine from Apple will cost.<<

Your specs don't tell the whole story. There are a lot of other variables with a computer, and the MSI you bought is not identical to a Mac in many respects, so the comparison is pointless.

In any case, I really don't think the thread needs dozens of posts pointing out that other companies make cheap computers. Since everyone here already knows that, let's just stipulate it and move on.

- Allen

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To: Doren who wrote (89487)1/16/2010 2:37:13 PM
From: sylvester80   of 154310
 
Apple was never just "everything goes" under Jobs, before Sculley or after Sculley. Under Jobs, the innovation design and UI was there before Sculley and after Sculley. What you are referring to and seeing that is different is just better technology, not better design. The design was there given the technology of the times before Sculley and now after Sculley with better faster cheaper technology. In fact I can easily say that the design and innovation of Apple's products back then (meaning before Sculley) was leaps and bounds better than anything else at their technological time where now it is becoming more and more difficult to tell. And so the only constant in both cases was Jobs not "the team". He is the secret sauce of Apple. As I said knock on wood that Jobs does not pass away.

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To: sylvester80 who wrote (89490)1/16/2010 2:39:04 PM
From: Cogito5 Recommendations   of 154310
 
Yes, Sylvester. But allow me to point out that people have been coming to this thread and saying exactly that same thing for several years now. And Apple's sales have continued to grow, and to grow at a faster pace than their competitors' sales. Apple's prices have dropped, too, over that time, albeit more slowly.

You're pretty late to the game, as far as pointing out how Apple's sales are going to collapse because cheaper computers are available.

Please do us all a favor and give it a rest now. If you have some other point to make, I'm sure we'll all be happy to give it some consideration.

- Allen

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To: sylvester80 who wrote (89484)1/16/2010 3:02:54 PM
From: Cogito   of 154310
 
>>Oh come on. Apple didn't become Apple after Sculley. It was Apple, with the same innovations under Steve Jobs before Sculley. So "the team" as you call it was there back then too. So the difference wasn't "the team" but its leader and that's Steve.<<

There have been many very significant new hires and organizational changes since Jobs rejoined Apple.

Of course Jobs makes an enormous difference, and of course his loss would be a great loss to the company. We can certainly agree about that.

- Allen

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To: sylvester80 who wrote (89488)1/16/2010 3:05:49 PM
From: Lahcim Leinad   of 154310
 
Oh, P.S.

>>>Three words, already spoken here by Allen; you must have had that hearing aid turned off:

And please don't put words on other peoples mouths. Nowhere did I see Allen state that. So it makes your responses even less credible.

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Adios, no coffee for you. Waste of beans!

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To: sylvester80 who wrote (89489)1/16/2010 3:16:47 PM
From: sinclap   of 154310
 
Are the specs similar. Is the processor a Dual Core 2, DDR3 memory and 9600 GPU plus a high quality LED display?

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