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To: Dave who wrote (29750)12/5/2000 11:48:55 PM
From: Adam Nash   of 154309
 
Maybe Apple should merge with Handspring or Palm, and use the strong cash flow and cash on hand to invest in new platforms and new revenue streams.

The problem with that logic is that Apple's problem has nothing to do with insufficient cash on hand. Apple is swimming in cash. Almost all of the value of a share of Apple stock is its cash hoard. So I don't really see the point of a merger, unless it is to acquire strategic technologies.


My point was the opposite of what you took it to be. Apple's problem is that it has too much cash, and not enough high-return projects to invest it in. They have a terrible track record projects beyond the box. The point of a merger would be to take the resources of Apple and put it behind a company with high-return projects to invest it in. Use Apple as a cash-flow engine.

What Apple needs to do is to stop hoarding its cash, and to develop and release good products regularly. Whether those products are hardware or software, consumer or enterprise, electronic or stuffed-animal, is immaterial. They just have to invest in their own R&D and corporate development rather than sitting on cash.

Once again, Apple R&D just doesn't have the track record for this type of work beyond the Mac.

By the way, the word on the street is that they just offered all of their Select and Premiere developers up to five hardware purchases at discount prices. My hunch is that they plan to release something tasty at MacWorld, and they have to try to get rid of these old models now because nobody will want them after MacWorld. This would be a nice change from the present arrangement, where for months their best-selling machine has been the discontinued 400 MHz G4 model.

Well, inventory build up is the cause of the current problem. This seems like just one example of their attempts to unload it before the end of the quarter. The key is they want to make this quarter as bad as possible at this point, and leave next quarter with a clean slate.

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To: HerbVic who wrote (29741)12/6/2000 1:14:12 AM
From: Softechie   of 154309
 
Apple broke into high $11's afterhours. Short interest went up good last month and I smelled something was up and today was it. They knew 2001 Q1 didn't they. Now I'm looking at $11's before jumping in. I think shorts will cover there.

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To: Dave who wrote (29750)12/6/2000 1:19:38 AM
From: spitsong   of 154309
 
Dave: Astarte happenings

They did buy Astarte, months ago, and we haven't heard a peep about that, so maybe something will be announced one day. Unless that whole company got Steved after the purchase.

Apple's Astarte investment should start paying dividends soon, I think ... classes in Apple - Astarte DVD authoring are already being offered:

all4dvd.com 

No way no how Astarte gets Steve'd. Astarte is, IMO, one of the most crucial keys to Apple's future growth. DVD authoring is the next step (so to speak, chuckle) now that consumer digital video editing has become standard, and the company who can present an integrated solution first will enjoy another year of growth.

Steve said during the September warning that two new iMovie-like apps were coming. My guess is that Astarte will be the basis of at least one.

Buona fortuna

(thanks to louis for the link)

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To: Adam Nash who wrote (29752)12/6/2000 1:31:07 AM
From: OrionX   of 154309
 
Adam,

The issues SJ mentioned in today's announcement aren't all Apple's. The market perception of slower performance because of lower MHz isn't in Apple's control if they choose to stay with MOT. MOT hasn't been a great partner for Apple in the last 12 months.

Of course, we can explain till we're blue in the face to the average computer buyer that the additional MHz in Intel CPUs is headroom they know they have but adds virtually nothing in their daily usage of their computer and will be used as often as those two extra PCI slots on the motherboard which will forever collect dust till the computer is chucked away in a landfill. I also believe Apple needs to make more of the general public clearly understand this point and that the computer is more than a CPU but a tool for expressing ideas. Apple offers a far more compelling appliance to do just that for the average user. Too bad many just don't see it.

Also, some people I know want a PC because they've been brain washed into believing computers are complex and they need to get the same computer as their computer savvy friend, cousin or neighbor. Boy do they get a surprise when they're constantly calling up the poor soul they've banked on for help. Many of these same people only make the admission they should have bought a Mac after a few months. If done right, Apple Stores (hmm, maybe Apple Orchards) may give Apple more opportunity to educate the buyers. Many retails outlets do an extremely poor job on all the computer brands they sell and not only Apples. It's about time Apple took control.

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To: Alomex who wrote (29738)12/6/2000 1:43:14 AM
From: cfimx   of 154309
 
>>A year ago I wrote:
...even today, I still don't quite buy the long term story of this company.

I wrote this four years ago. just ask soup.

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To: cfimx who wrote (29756)12/6/2000 6:16:59 AM
From: David   of 154309
 
Twister:

Nice to run into you on the Apple Computer Thread. What is your general view on the company? are you a buyer at these recently returned to low levels in the backdrop of deteriorating earnings?

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To: David who wrote (29757)12/6/2000 7:56:46 AM
From: cfimx   of 154309
 
no, not a buyer. when steve trades in his Gulfstream for a Cessna, I'll be a buyer. <G>

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To: David who wrote (29757)12/6/2000 10:58:26 AM
From: cfimx   of 154309
 
chronology for the applytes:

apple buys next: 12/20/98 aapl = $11.75
new board appointed: 8/7/99 aapl = $13.40
Jobs get 10million options @ $44 1/12/00 aapl = $44
jobs gets gulfstream V 1/19/00 aapl = $55.70
yesterday jobs announces over 50% decline in rev

aapl = $14.25

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To: cfimx who wrote (29759)12/6/2000 12:01:39 PM
From: HerbVic   of 154309
 
Did you leave out the split in your table there, twist?

HerbVic

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To: Adam Nash who wrote (29746)12/6/2000 12:03:53 PM
From: Alomex   of 154309
 
Mac OS X is not going to be a killer app. Period. To think so is clutching at straws, in my opinion. New OSes take a long time to iron out, gain software support, and prior user experience is working against perceived usability.

I disagree. Mac OS X might turn to be a killer app if the linux community embraces it. Linux users are in general highly sophisticated and willing to invest the time to learn a new technology.

In fact, if OS X ran on intel I think the entire Linux community would be running OS X the day after it comes out... (pardon the hyperbole, but you get the point)...

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