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To: soup who wrote (22208)1/12/1999 10:29:00 AM
From: Alomex   of 153995
 
The fact that the Mac OS does not have protected memory is not a reason that makes it difficult to write code for it.

The lack of protected memory is one of the biggest flaws of MacOS. Every so often we get a macevangelist trying to convince us that the lack of it is really not that bad. They sound like used car salesmen:

Really, the lack of safety belt is actually a benefit for you.

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To: Alomex who wrote (22212)1/12/1999 10:46:00 AM
From: soup   of 153995
 
David Every on Carmack.

>My broad-brushed over generalization stereotype of game programmers (until I get to know them individually), is to treat them like creative, opinionated, competent low-level, down-and-dirty coders, with big ego's. If you're nice to them, and treat them with respect (and a little butt-kissing), they will produce great games and maybe teach you a few things along the way.<

mackido.com 

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To: Alomex who wrote (22212)1/12/1999 11:07:00 AM
From: HerbVic   of 153995
 
Lack of protected memory is more analogous to the lack of a guard rail than to the lack of seat belts. It protects the infrastructure from the hot doggers, but it does nothing to keep them from crashing their own vehicle. And sane, deliberate, road hugging code only needs it for protection from the hot doggers as well.

Of course protected memory is better. But let's get real Alomex. It's not a flaw. It's a desirable missing feature. Especially in this age of Computer Systems Engineering grads going to work as programmers right out of school at $60,000 a year and under pressure to produce.

HerbVic

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To: Jonathan Bird who wrote (22199)1/12/1999 11:19:00 AM
From: Linda Kaplan   of 153995
 
Isn't the USB slower than SCSI? I know someone who bought several iMacs for a school music program where they use MIDI and they've been doorstops all this time. Still no USB MIDI interface so they had to dig out the Macs they were going to throw away, that the iMacs were designed to replace, to use those older ones.

Linda

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To: HerbVic who wrote (22214)1/12/1999 11:32:00 AM
From: Alomex   of 153995
 

And sane, deliberate, road hugging code only needs it for protection from the hot doggers as well.

There is no such a thing as "sane road hugging code". A real life project has hundreds of thousands of lines of code, and somewhere out there is a bug that munches memory. Quality shop codes test their software extensively so that those bugs appear quite infrequently, but the bugs are still there. Having a guard rail ensures that whenever that hidden bug appears, you don't lock up the entire system.

But let's get real Alomex. It's not a flaw. It's a desirable missing feature.

I guess it's a matter of perspective. IMO, an OS which in 1999 does not have memory protection is flawed, period. Back in 1985 it was a desirable missing feature, one I could tolerate not having.

But things have changed since the introduction of the Model T, and today it is illegal to sell a car without safety belts.

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To: Linda Kaplan who wrote (22215)1/12/1999 11:41:00 AM
From: Mark Palmberg   of 153995
 
I know someone who bought several iMacs for a school music program where they use MIDI and they've been doorstops all this time.

That someone should be canned.

Mark

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To: Linda Kaplan who wrote (22215)1/12/1999 11:41:00 AM
From: Mark Palmberg   of 153995
 
I know someone who bought several iMacs for a school music program where they use MIDI and they've been doorstops all this time.

That someone should be canned.

Mark

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To: Mark Palmberg who wrote (22218)1/12/1999 11:50:00 AM
From: soup   of 153995
 
USB is a replacement for Serial and ADB (as well as a slower but, more easily configured replacement for SCSI.)

The MIDI problem is less a problem of hardware as that the software drivers are not yet up to speed.

FireWire is a replacement for SCSI.

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To: soup who wrote (22219)1/12/1999 11:56:00 AM
From: BillHoo   of 153995
 
**OT**

Just got back from a funeral in Canada. Drove past the Corel building and threw snowballs at it. (Took heavy hits when their CEO lied about a $400 million profit then sold his shares and earnings a week later reported like a $400 million loss - still holding on and hoping that it goes back up so I can sell at break even.)

Almost didn't make it back to airport. (One of my sled dogs got lame in an ice storm and traffic was horrible).

-Bill_H

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To: Linda Kaplan who wrote (22215)1/12/1999 12:15:00 PM
From: Matt Peterson   of 153995
 


Isn't the USB slower than SCSI? I know someone who bought several iMacs for a school music
program where they use MIDI and they've been doorstops all this time. Still no USB MIDI interface
so they had to dig out the Macs they were going to throw away, that the iMacs were designed to
replace, to use those older ones.

Linda

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USB is analageous to ADB, not SCSI. It's obvious that the person with purchasing power did absolutely no research on the subject matter before blindly jumping in and buying iMacs. What's the next purchase going to be? eMates to do statistical analysis?

-Matt

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