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To: give_me_a_break who wrote (133866)5/18/2012 6:38:13 PM
From: Win-Lose-Draw   of 153989
 
If the carriers truly aren't making enough money off of iPhone subs, then it is only a matter of when, not if, the premium Apple currently enjoys over other handset sellers goes away.

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To: Road Walker who wrote (133858)5/18/2012 7:54:34 PM
From: pyslent1 Recommendation   of 153989
 
" Another possibility is that Apple is already buckling to the pressure. Note the reduced prices across the large retailers."

This is not indicative of reduced subsidy to me-- The end user pricing would either increase with a reduction of carrier subsidy or Apple's ASP would go down. We have seen no sign of Apple lowering iPhone ASP (unless you count than Q2's $14 sequential decline), so it seems like the the large retailers are increasing their subsidy if anything. Now this may indicate lessened iPhone demand, which would be a different problem altogether...

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To: Win-Lose-Draw who wrote (133867)5/18/2012 8:03:07 PM
From: pyslent   of 153989
 
" If the carriers truly aren't making enough money off of iPhone subs, then it is only a matter of when, not if, the premium Apple currently enjoys over other handset sellers goes away."

The math is simple-- $1600 > $400, even spread out over 2 years. Carriers are pining for yesteryear when they could pay $150 to attract the same customer and expect even more money on the backend (eg, from selling ringtones to a captive audience). I paid $400 for my first smartphone, fully subsidized and with a carrier contract. Apple did 2 things with the iPhone (esp the iPhone 3G). They set the expectation that a state of the art smartphone should only cost users $200 under contract, and they siphoned an extra $200 from the carriers per customer by promising higher ARPU. Now that other smartphones can sell data plans at a lower subsidy level, it's a good question how long Apple would keep such a sweetheart deal.

As it is, though, it makes sense for carriers to discourage early and superfluous upgrades, and even push customers towards devices with lower subsidies when possible, but at the end of the day, it still makes financial sense to use the iPhone to land the customer they would not otherwise get. Every iPhone customer is profitable.

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To: Kelly G. who wrote (133865)5/18/2012 8:08:25 PM
From: Doren6 Recommendations   of 153989
 
> Carriers have bullied folks for too long

I would use stronger language than that. Closer to being swindlers.

All the crap I get in the mailbox every week begging me to try this introductory swindle and that introductory swindle just makes me dislike them intensely. Their billing is complex on purpose, to screw consumers.

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To: Road Walker who wrote (133864)5/18/2012 8:09:03 PM
From: Doren3 Recommendations   of 153989
 
> perspective of the carriers

Yeah they look at themselves as high tech companies, when everyone else looks at them as utilities posing as high tech.

Including me.

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From: Kelly G.5/18/2012 10:07:52 PM
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I never thought I would say this but, Go, Microsoft, Go!:

ITC Awards Microsoft an Import Ban on Motorola Phones, Tablets | Gadget Lab | Wired.com

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To: SiouxPal who wrote (133740)5/18/2012 10:45:40 PM
From: JP Sullivan3 Recommendations   of 153989
 
concern that Apple was moving its DRAM business away from Samsung

As far as I'm concerned, the day Apple completely ditches Samesong can't come fast enough. Wonder what it's going to do when it loses its sneak preview privileges / heads-up of Apple's blockbusters. Oh dear, wherever will the ideas come from next? Galaxy might collapse into a black hole!

-we-

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To: manny t who wrote (133842)5/18/2012 11:29:05 PM
From: ChinuSFO   of 153989
 
FB is a flop. They don't have a product. Their CFO Ebersman, who is a ex-biotech surely knows what a "hot air" stock FB is. Yes AAPL did show some sign of life. I presume it will pick up next week along with the rumor mill that has already picked up the past few days.

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To: Doren who wrote (133850)5/18/2012 11:58:08 PM
From: XoFruitCake   of 153989
 
This is all about raising money for the venture caps and Zuckerberg. It has nothing to do with reality. Hype gone wild, just like the girls.
I think the story is more than that. Mark Z only sell enough shares to come up with tax money to exercise his option. Venture firms certainly want to get out. Some of them are in FB for over 8 years and they need to pay their shareholders. FB also need to allow employee to cash out their option. The second market trading of FB stocks get them over 500 stockholders and they have to file all the forms. I think the most important factor is the pending change in tax laws which will make all the shareholder not cashing out this year pay a very high tax. I think it set up a very interesting trade when the 90 days and 180 days lock up period expire. All the venture firm will have to cash out and the stock price will crash. If the put options is not too expensive, I would be interested in getting some 4 months out put options.

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To: Kelly G. who wrote (133861)5/19/2012 12:11:53 AM
From: XoFruitCake1 Recommendation   of 153989
 
Rumor was that there was an iPhone 5 phone almost ready to go when the iPhone 4S was released
Apple started the production run for Ipad 3 on Jan 1 and launched it in mid March. Depending on how many territories Apple wants to cover at launch, they may need 3 months or more production before they can launch Iphone5. I think the 4 inches screen shipment is the first real rumor that we hear about Iphone 5 production. So it would seems mid-late August is the earliest Iphone 5 launch days.

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