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To: clean86 who wrote (131510)4/20/2012 1:32:44 PM
From: almaxel   of 154173
 
MacDailyNews Take: Those crowds, occurring around the world, are one very big thing from Apple that Samsung can’t seem to slavish copy – not even in their own country.

In your face, Samsung: South Koreans go crazy for Apple’s new iPad (with video)

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From: Road Walker4/20/2012 1:36:07 PM
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Apple (AAPL) Will Likely Beat Q2 EPS Views, But Miss the Whisper Number
12:53 pm ET 04/20/2012 - Street Insider
After taking a hard look at Apple's (Nasdaq: AAPL) EPS guidance, consensus and actual results over the past few quarters, it appears that while the company will beat the consensus when it reports next Tuesday, expectations which may have again gotten too high could lead to a miss on the whisper number.

Below are Apple's guidance, consensus, revised consensus and actual numbers since Tim Cook has been calling the shots. (Numbers in parentheses reflect percentage beat/miss over actual result.)

Q4:

Initial Apple EPS guidance = $5.50 (+28%)

Initial Street consensus = $6.42 (+10%)

Final Street consensus = $7.28 (-3%)

Actual EPS = $7.05

Q1:

Initial Apple EPS guidance = $9.30 (+49%)

Initial Street consensus = $8.98 (+54%)

Final Street consensus = $10.08 (+37%)

Actual EPS = $13.87

Q2 (4/24):

Initial Apple EPS guidance = $8.50

Initial Street consensus = $8.30

Final Street consensus = $9.99

Actual EPS = N/A

Besides the apparent "huge" beats versus the company s internal guidance, looking deeper at the numbers reveals two things:Apple has become less conservative with its guidance since Cook took over and Jobs passed. After being normally well below the Street with its guidance, Apple actually guided above the initial Street consensus during the past two quarters. This may be a Cook thing. The new exec may feel like the sandbagging should end as expectations for the company often get so lofty. Whatever the reason, it is important.When analysts become too optimistic, there is a chance for a miss. A sharp move higher in the Street consensus over the fourth quarter can easily be seen -- a trend which likely resulted in the Apple miss. Although the consensus started 17 percent above the company's guidance, estimates moved up 13 percent during the quarter to about 32 percent above the internal guidance. This changed in the first quarter, however. The consensus started 4 percent below Apple's guidance and moved up 12 percent during the quarter to just 8 percent above the company s guidance, consequently resulting in a huge beat. For the second quarter, the consensus started 2 percent below the guidance and moved up 20 percent during the quarter to about 17 percent above the company's guidance.So what does this mean?If Apple's fourth-quarter guidance had been more in-line with management's recent practice of setting expectations higher, the initial guidance could have been set at $6.61, or 3 percent above the initial consensus (the average of Q1 and Q2). That would have represented a beat of 7 percent during the quarter. Even with the company's first-quarter guidance set above the Street, strength from the iPhone 4S led to an earnings beat of about 49 percent. Taking an average of the hypothetical 7 percent beat from the fourth quarter and real 49 percent beat from the first quarter equates to a beat rate of 28 percent above the company's internal guidance. Applying the 28 percent beat rate (which seems solid as this is the percentage Apple's fourth-quarter topped its own guidance in Q4) to the Q2 guidance of may suggest Q2 EPS results of around $10.88, about 9 percent above the current consensus of $9.99.

The question is " 'Will it be enough'?

Probably not. Data from StreetInsider.com's EPS Insider shows that Apple has beaten the consensus by an average of 22 percent over the past four quarters... So the real whisper number going into the quarter is around $12. Apple could miss this.

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To: Road Walker who wrote (131512)4/20/2012 2:07:14 PM
From: slacker7112 Recommendations   of 154173
 

The fun part is that articles like this are now changing the earnings expectations :-).

Slacker

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To: slacker711 who wrote (131513)4/20/2012 2:11:21 PM
From: Road Walker   of 154173
 
The fun part is that articles like this are now changing the earnings expectations :-).

Just my thought... fear and loathing in Apple land. Still thinking if I want to make a trade on earnings... probably not but leaning towards long if we go much lower and there is more hand wringing.

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From: Win-Lose-Draw4/20/2012 2:13:57 PM
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I know longer have any up-trend definitions that still hold valid for AAPL.

YMMV.

And this is NOT the same as saying the stock is a candidate for shorting.

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To: Trader J who wrote (131507)4/20/2012 2:22:44 PM
From: Trader J   of 154173
 
OT: "lighted" up my call load. Nice. No really ... I do speak the English language natively. :)

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To: Win-Lose-Draw who wrote (131515)4/20/2012 2:24:11 PM
From: Road Walker1 Recommendation   of 154173
 
YMMV
What does that mean?

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From: Moonray4/20/2012 2:29:27 PM
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EARNINGS OUTLOOK

Apple to see another big iPhone, iPad quarterWall Street looking for big numbers despite recent stock weakness

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — Apple Inc. is expected to post another strong period of iPhone and iPad sales when it reports results for the March quarter on Tuesday, despite recent worries that have hurt the stock price over the last week.

Some good stuff at: marketwatch.com 

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To: Road Walker who wrote (131512)4/20/2012 2:34:53 PM
From: Neal Guttenberg   of 154173
 
RW,

Interesting market psychology games are being played. Will Apple make the whisper number or not and what actually is the whisper number? Growing revenues and earnings at 50-100% affords a trailing PE of less than 20 and there are many out there that feel that Apple is overvalued right now. So for Apple's share price to go up they need to beat the increased estimates to afford it a PE of a regularly growing company. Now we are being told that Apple's guidance estimates are going to be closer to reality so a really big blowout isn't to be expected. I don't know what is true or not but I am getting the feeling that the 24 hours news cycle on Apple has many contributors who need to write something about the biggest company market cap wise and will write anything that comes to mind.

Meanwhile, MSFT goes and beats lowered estimates by a couple of pennies with earnings per share that are lower than last year and because they may be starting to see some improved pc sales and a new operating system with THE IPAD KILLER which hasn't been produced yet, stock is way up today. Go figure. Made the wrong bet this time. Guessed right but figured the market reaction wrong. I thought that poor phone sales would trump other things since that is what MSFTs future growth is really pinned to.

Just looked at the call option prices and they still are pretty expensive although I am sure down over the past week. I was looking to see if they had come back to earth but still too expensive for me. Probably the main reason I only play around with small money on options. Can't take the increased uncertainty but that is just me.

Good luck out there.

Neal

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From: Keith Feral4/20/2012 2:36:15 PM
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OPEX is taking all the premiums out of the out of the money calls for Apple today. This will be an ongoing headache for Apple shares, which is part of the reason I would like to see a hefty stock split. There are too many different strike prices for Apple to be of any practical use except for people to sell the premiums.

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