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To: slacker711 who wrote (130897)4/14/2012 7:40:40 PM
From: Road Walker3 Recommendations   of 154124
 
Should a company, publisher in this instance, be allowed to enforce the retail selling price of their product?
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I think the answer is yes.

However, that is not what this case is about. The question is whether a company can collude with every other major player in the industry to enforce a retail selling price. I think the answer to that question is no.



I think it's both collusion and "price fixing". In the end a publisher has a monopoly on a particular title, so collusion on that title is not possible. But enforcing a minimum retail price is, and that's what I think they will try to hang them on.


Collusion gets headlines but the reality is everybody colludes to an extent. If Joes Gas is getting $4 a gallon Bills Gas next store is going to be within a few cents, regardless of the COGS. Joe and Bill may never talk but there is an understanding that to cut the other guys throat you are also cutting your own.


One thing that's legal in anti trust.... a manufacturer can (and they always do) give volume discounts. So the big guys like Amazon and Walmart get bigger and bigger, and the small guys can't compete and go out of business. It's why the local hardware store, the corner pharmacy, the little electronics retailer have been smothered by Home Depot, Walgreens and Best Buy. Real people can no longer be owners, they can only be employees or stockholders.


That's not anti competitive? You bet it is. More than retail price fixing in my humble opinion. But everyone assumes the anti trust laws are righteous... handed down from the Gods. They're not, and again in my humble opinion they have led to a lack of opportunity and a lack of innovation in this country.


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To: Kip S who wrote (130905)4/14/2012 7:59:33 PM
From: tcd1 Recommendation   of 154124
 
I'm in the same boat as Kip and Jef but have an extra wrap of stock around me - that's all I own in
my main account. Have never done options, so I am hanging in there and out there.

td

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To: tcd who wrote (130938)4/14/2012 8:17:21 PM
From: Lahcim Leinad   of 154124
 
I just trade it when Henry's chart tells us it's time, and sell it when I think it's time. Been dead wrong, very often. Should just listen to Henry and shut up. But I'm not a buy and hold type. Never was. Addicted to trading and locking in profits. I'm not rich, but not yet broke, either. Whatever works.

Anyone up for pizza? I did make enough for half a slice each, this week. ;-)

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To: aaplAnnie who wrote (130869)4/14/2012 10:05:25 PM
From: Guth8 Recommendations   of 154124
 
Why am I the only one in the pool with no swimsuit?


Jeezuz, don't leave. I'll spill my guts if you'll stay around. So here goes, I'm dropping my shorts, mooning the Tankers, and jumping into the pool. I don't post much because, basically, I'm a freakin' idiot, I mostly lurk. Anyways, I have 50 contracts of Jan 14 600's(paid~$60) and and 50 contracts of Jan13 540's(paid $16.36). Last October after PO tipped off a huge Jan quarter I loaded up on various calls. Everything was in a trading account that had dropped to probably $150 K(when things are going bad I don't check account balances). Last week, at the ATH, the trading account was at $1.8 mil plus I withdrew funds to pay off what was left of our mortgage.


As an aside, since my wife has never really cared much about our finances and that stuff I never updated her on how the trading account was going. Three weeks ago we went on a trip to Boston and I showed her our account statement. She almost had a cow. The look on her faced was priceless.


Anyways, I now have a dilemma. We've agreed that we'll hold onto the jan14's and try to capture LT capital gains. Last week we talked about dumping the Jan 13's I suggested we hold on into the April ER because there is usually a run up into earnings. I told you I'm a freaking idiot. Long story short, I'm confident AAPL will easily be over $650 in January, but it could easily drop to $550 or $500 in the next week. That would just be the normal "noise" in the AAPL stock price. If it was just me, I'd let it ride, BUT I know my my wife and she isn't going to enjoy going through that crap. So I'm probably going to dump the 13's Monday morning and then let the 14's ride.


So there's the Cliffs Notes version of my story. Now you gotta stay around.

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To: Guth who wrote (130940)4/14/2012 10:17:05 PM
From: Stock Puppy   of 154124
 
OT :-)
>>Why am I the only one in the pool with no swimsuit?


>Jeezuz, don't leave. I'll spill my guts if you'll stay around. So


Damn, what does Annie have that I don't?


Last time my swimsuit just "slipped" a little bit everyone jumped out of the pool and went running away...

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To: Guth who wrote (130940)4/14/2012 10:19:03 PM
From: Lahcim Leinad3 Recommendations   of 154124
 
Thank you for proving this is the most valuable thread on SI.

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To: Guth who wrote (130940)4/14/2012 11:25:28 PM
From: aaplAnnie4 Recommendations   of 154124
 
Guth,

How could I leave after that? I'm more than impressed, I'm awestruck. Would you please manage my account?


Annie

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To: Guth who wrote (130940)4/15/2012 12:13:19 AM
From: jeftuxedo   of 154124
 
Dude, that's an awesome story! Uh, are you taking any clients.....:)

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To: ggamer who wrote (130817)4/15/2012 11:36:42 AM
From: Kevin Podsiadlik   of 154124
 
I only stop by here every couple of days or so, so I missed the drama, but just so nobody feels all alone:

1) Only about 7%, but given that pretty much all my investment assets are tied up in retirement accounts I think that's understandable.
2) No plans other than to let it ride until I see something has seriously changed at Apple. Then again with only 7% that's easy for me to say.

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To: ggamer who wrote (130817)4/15/2012 12:16:34 PM
From: rnsmth3 Recommendations   of 154124
 
<<1) What % of your total investment is in Apple stock?

2) What are your plans going forward?
a) Next month?
b) Next Year?>>

Hi ggamer,

71% of our investments are in the two IRAs that we use for Apple. That account is 98% invested right now, so about 0% of our investments are in Apple. Those two IRAs are up 320% for the year.

From sometime in 2010 until recently, it was all long-dated calls. This past month I have put some of the gains into AAPL shares.

63% of our postions are Jan 2014 $600's, bought in February and March - cost basis is $62.88, they closed Friday at $117.xx on the bid.

16% is in October $600's, they are slightly red now, just having opened them, but made a lot of money on the Oct $550's I had previously closed.

18% in shares

The rest is cash.

I am going to go higher cash - I will close the Octobers, some before the earnings report and some after, I think. I would like to get back to around 50% cash, but I am not sure if I am willing to sell any of the Jan 2014 $600 LEAPS.

$900 Annie? Wow. :)

Edited to add:

It would not surprise me if the share price was to enter a period of consolidation at some point in the next few months - it is possible that it has started, but Apple is going to report earnings that will be more then $11.50 a share, I think, perhaps quite a bit higher than that.

$550 first or $675 first? I dunno. Either way, I am pretty comfortable with the Jan 2014 $600s. My models show AAPL at over $1,000 a share by them.

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