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To: give_me_a_break who wrote (113004)5/20/2011 4:56:36 PM
From: Cogito
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>>On thing that seems clear to me regarding FOXCONN...Apple needs to be looking for some new mfg partners.<<

I don't think so. Consider how many millions of Apple, Microsoft, and other companies' products Foxconn has produced. I'm sure their safety record is no worse than any other Chinese manufacturer's.

The deaths and injuries are lamentable, but there is no perfect alternative.

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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (112959)5/20/2011 5:39:46 PM
From: 2MAR$
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Yes its a tragedy @Foxconn...missed the news earlier

The official Xinhua News Agency said another 16 people were injured in the explosion. Last year, the company scrambled to improve conditions at its plants after a stringer of worker suicides.
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Must be quite a grind working in these factories ....

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To: Cogito who wrote (113005)5/20/2011 5:46:39 PM
From: Doren
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Neither did Apple make the world of offshore manufacturing and container shipping, nor can they afford to buck the trend.

The blame lies elsewhere. The off shoring of our economy started happening 40 years ago. The reasons were apparent then just as they are today. People in the US refuse to be honest about why it's happening, so it will no doubt continue.

But Apple is not to blame.

It is up to the people in that country to resist unfair labor practices. They could have used some help but help is not forthcoming from this nation.

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To: J.F. Sebastian who wrote (113001)5/20/2011 5:54:45 PM
From: Doren
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This is fairly astounding to me, and I do not understand it.

My only guess is executives and privileged sales people are now carrying Apple laptops for prestige and ease of use.

Where else would Apple be making inroads this large?

Unless Mr. Hughes has goofed lumping iPhones and iPads into the mix. I don't think so though, Apple Insider has been around long enough I doubt they'd make a mistake like that.

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To: Stock Puppy who wrote (112986)5/20/2011 6:11:13 PM
From: Edward Boghosian
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Stock Puppy:

A number of times, I've posted here that I'm not in favor of any more splits, that is the conventional type and I'm in favor of keeping cash on hand instead of giving out a dividend. I believe most people would disagree.

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To: bacchus_ii who wrote (112997)5/20/2011 6:14:19 PM
From: Edward Boghosian
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Since we don't know about the 200, 000, most people are not bothered by it.

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To: Doren who wrote (113008)5/20/2011 6:18:33 PM
From: Jeff Hayden
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Doren,

Some companies and government agencies (NASA in particular) allow their engineers to pick whatever computer type they want since their IT components have begun to allow cross platform connection to their internal networks. When given the choice, many have picked the Mac and its OS X over Windows System 7, I think, because they have a Mac at home and prefer to use it. A lot of people have switched to Macs as their home computers recently and they now want them in their work. So some companies and agencies allow them to choose. There is no doubt that Windows 7 is a good OS - a heck of a lot better than XP and Vista. But when given the choice, those who have Macs at home, will pick Macs at work.

Since it took a while for people to switch to Macs at home, and it took even longer to convince IT that Macs could be supported on corporate networks, it's no wonder that Mac usage in business continued to drop even as people switched. But after IT was convinced it was OK, then adoption in the corporate environment began to increase. I expect the Mac will pick-up quite a bit more corporate business.

Jeff

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To: Doren who wrote (113007)5/20/2011 6:26:40 PM
From: Edward Boghosian
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Foxconn is thinking about opening a plant in Brazil. Why? Because labor is cheeper there then in China or less restrictions, or more tax benefits. How many people in the U.S. will work at the same price as the Chinese and now the Brazilians. A leveling out of wages. Ours goes down and theirs goes up until there equal. That means, there will be a very have class and a very have not class. There will be no middle class or upward mobility. That is the only way jobs are going to come back to the U.S. A currently very popular former president and wife team were strong proponents of this except the jobs were going to Mexico then. Now Mexico is too expensive.

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To: Jeff Hayden who wrote (113011)5/20/2011 6:28:26 PM
From: Doren
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Yeah I can see that.

Heck if the boss is paying for it why not get a Mac?

One other explanation for the uptick in government use is UNIX is inherently more resistant to hacking. One would have thought that would have been apparent long ago.

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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (113006)5/20/2011 6:42:53 PM
From: Road Walker
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Must be quite a grind working in these factories ....

Must be quite a grind working in a US coal mine. Everything is relative ... working in a Chinese coal mine can't be a day at the beach.

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