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From: Glenn Petersen5/3/2012 10:34:15 PM
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Small Investors May Get to Own a Bit of Facebook

By SUSANNE CRAIG and EVELYN M. RUSLI
DealBook
New York Times
May 3, 2012, 9:04 pm

Facebook, which plans to make a market debut this month that could value it at $86 billion, is the stock that everyone seems to want.

If you are a small investor, lots of luck. Typically, shares of the hottest initial public offerings go almost entirely to the biggest clients of the Wall Street banks that oversee the stock sale. And no I.P.O. is as big or as eagerly awaited this year as Facebook’s.

Yet there may be a sliver of hope. Facebook’s executives and underwriters have discussed raising the number of shares that will go to retail investors, say people briefed on the matter who were not authorized to speak on the record. It is not known how much will eventually go to these mom-and-pop investors, but Wall Street executives estimate that the retail share could be as much as 20 to 25 percent of the offering. Some of that increase is likely to go to brokerage firms like TD Ameritrade or E*Trade, which cater to small investors.

On Thursday, Facebook set the estimated price for its offering of more than 337 million shares at $28 to $35 a share. At the midpoint of that range, the social network giant is on track to raise $10.6 billion in an offering that could value the company at $86 billion. Facebook executives will meet in New York with the sales forces of its banks on Friday to brief them on the I.P.O. presentation, according to one of the people with knowledge of the matter.

The company is seeking to give retail investors a bigger cut because it sees itself as a service created for, and driven by, consumers. One person briefed on the offering, who declined to be identified because of regulatory restrictions, said Facebook sees itself as “the people’s company.”

The excitement over Facebook’s offering has come on the back of its rapid growth. For many, Facebook is the Internet. Its number of active daily users now totals 526 million people. And after a flurry of headline-popping market debuts by other Internet start-ups — LinkedIn, Groupon and Zynga, among others — Facebook’s will be the biggest yet.

“I would love to get Facebook stock,” said Joseph Quigley, a 32-year-old insurance sales and marketing manager in Maryland. Mr. Quigley is an active trader, buying and selling stock worth several thousand dollars a year.

Like many others, he is pessimistic about his chances to invest in Facebook.

On Thursday, Facebook added E*Trade as one of its 33 underwriters — an indication that the company could seek to bolster its retail allotment — but it did not indicate how many shares the online brokerage firm will get.

“I remain skeptical that I could buy anything meaningful,” Mr. Quigley said.

The frenzy surrounding the Facebook public offering is reminiscent of the dot-com boom of the late 1990s, when investors clamored to get a piece of the next hot Internet company.

That system, it turned out, was fraught with abuses, including a practice known as spinning, which involved securities firms giving out valuable I.P.O. shares to executives in a bid to win their firms’ investment banking business. Regulators now bar this sort of quid pro quo behavior. Even as there have been changes, Wall Street still sends most of the prepublic offering shares it gets to big institutional investors like the mutual fund giants Fidelity and Vanguard.

How those shares are allotted is part of a choreographed series of events that takes place over several months before the market debut. A regulatory filing that describes the company’s business to investors starts the process. The company also selects a team of underwriters.

In the case of Facebook, the social networking giant tapped Morgan Stanley to lead the public offering, followed by JPMorgan Chase and Goldman Sachs.

In what is known as a road show, these underwriters take the company’s executives out to meet big institutional investors, who take the opportunity to quiz company executives. Demand to attend the Facebook presentations has been extraordinarily high, with underwriters already drawing up waiting lists for the meetings, according to two people briefed on the matter.

Facebook’s road show is expected to take place over the next eight to nine business days. Given that time frame, Facebook may begin trading on Nasdaq about May 17 or May 18.

After these meetings, investors will decide whether they want to place an order for shares, and for how many. Those orders are sent to the lead underwriters, who build a book of orders. This data is used to later allocate shares and set the price.

Depending on the size of the offering, Facebook will end up paying more than $100 million in fees to the underwriters. The firms that receive the most in underwriting fees typically get the biggest number of retail shares. In the case of Facebook, that is likely to be Morgan Stanley, which has a large network of brokers. Those shares are highly coveted and typically go to the firm’s top-producing brokers — and their best clients.

One Wall Street broker, who declined to be named, citing his firm’s policy against speaking to the media, said that financial advisers who specialize in initial public offerings will also be at the top of the list of brokers getting a Facebook allocation. Certain brokers, he said, have a clientele that buys public offerings almost exclusively, and those clients often buy “a lot of dogs” to have a chance at getting in on an offering like Facebook.

James Palmer, head of equity capital markets origination in the Americas for the Swiss bank UBS, which is not one of the Facebook underwriters, said “best practice” is to allot shares to investors that have a history of holding shares, rather than selling them shortly after the public offering for a quick profit.

In the case of an Internet I.P.O., he said: “Branch managers should also look at whether the account holds high-growth technology stocks and is accustomed to that type of investment.”

It is not unheard-of for companies that have a lot of contact with the public to allot more shares to retail investors. For instance, Google in 2004 went public using an auctionlike process to sell its shares, a decision that allowed for bigger retail participation.

C. James Koch, the chairman of the Boston Beer Company, wanted his customers to have a chance at buying shares when his company went public in 1995. So he hung fliers on six-packs of beer that informed customers that they might be able to buy $500 worth of shares in an eventual public offering. He sold shares at two prices. Some went to his customers, who it turned out got a better deal than institutional investors. Customers paid $15 a share, compared with $20 for those who bought at the offering price.

Experts say that while the odds are stacked against the small investor, there is one surefire way to get shares: Friend someone in Facebook’s executive suite.

“It does come down to the firm,” said Matthew Rhodes-Kropf, a finance professor at Harvard University. “Facebook can say where the shares are going.”

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To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (287)5/4/2012 11:14:46 AM
From: Win-Lose-Draw   of 1272
 
Smells like, feels like, the PALM of 2012.

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To: Win-Lose-Draw who wrote (288)5/4/2012 11:55:20 AM
From: Jurgis Bekepuris   of 1272
 
FB - my prediction - shares will run up huge out of the gate, so all granmas in Florida will be telling stories about how they bought it if they remember that they bought it by the happy hour. Stock will go from overvalued to hugely overvalued. What happens afterwards is anybody's guess. It's not an obvious short at any valuation, but it can crash if there is an alternative or if monetization does not go well.

Personally, I won't buy it, but I am not saying that traders and nimble momos can't make money on it. Eventually Florida grandpas gonna get hurt though. Not the first time...

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To: Brian Sullivan who wrote (274)5/4/2012 12:22:34 PM
From: FUBHO   of 1272
 
Any tech stock going public in May still strikes me as a bad idea. I would have picked an historically strong month for the tech stock sector.

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To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (287)5/4/2012 12:50:13 PM
From: FUBHO1 Recommendation   of 1272
 
(AP) – Facebook hopes to raise as much as $13.6 billion in an initial public offering of stock, probably in mid-May. It would be the largest IPO ever for an Internet company. Here are the top 10, according to Renaissance Capital, an IPO investment adviser:

  1. Google: $1.67 billion, 2004
  2. Yandex NV (Russian search engine), $1.3 billion, 2011
  3. Infonet Services Corp (now part of BT Group PLC), $1.08 billion, 1999
  4. Shanda Games, $1.04 billion, 2009
  5. Zynga, $1 billion, 2011
  6. Giant Interactive Group, $887 million, 2007
  7. Renren, $743 million, 2011
  8. Groupon, $700 million, 2011
  9. Orbitz, $510 million, 2007
  10. BarnesandNoble.com, $450 million, 1999

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To: Jurgis Bekepuris who wrote (289)5/4/2012 1:58:41 PM
From: Win-Lose-Draw2 Recommendations   of 1272
 
Eventually Florida grandpas gonna get hurt though.

Yeah, for sure, that's what markets are designed to do.

Good luck - I'm not touching it, either - long or short - not my style of play. I'll be watching from the sidelines with a big old bag of well-buttered popcorn.

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To: Win-Lose-Draw who wrote (288)5/4/2012 5:58:22 PM
From: Lahcim Leinad   of 1272
 
Exactly. After that, the smell of burning flesh is already in the air.

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To: FUBHO who wrote (291)5/5/2012 10:50:28 AM
From: Glenn Petersen1 Recommendation   of 1272
 
Historic by a factor of eight.

Forced out and still worth $2 billion:

The Other Facebook Founder

By Shibani Mahtani
The Wall Street Journal
May 3, 2012

SINGAPORE—Facebook Inc. founder Mark Zuckerberg is one of the world's most famous chief executives. His former business partner and friend, Eduardo Saverin, is big in Singapore.

The Brazilian-born billionaire's skirmishes with Mr. Zuckerberg over the future of Facebook were dramatized in the 2010 film "The Social Network," which portrayed Mr. Saverin as a naive entrepreneur.

Mr. Saverin was squeezed out of Facebook early on, and found his stake in the Internet juggernaut diluted to less than 10% from 34%. Today, after more dilution and sales of some of his shares, his stake is about 2%, according to a person familiar with the matter.

But 2% can go a long way, given that Facebook filed documents Thursday to go public with a valuation of up to $96 billion. It can go especially far in Singapore, a financial center better known for banning the sale of chewing gum than for a thriving technology scene.

Since his arrival in 2009, the 30-year-old Mr. Saverin has attracted intense interest here. Singaporeans avidly track his nocturnal social habits. Many hoped he would fund local tech start-ups, but so far his local investments, which include a cosmetics firm, have been limited.

Mr. Saverin is regularly spotted lounging with models and wealthy friends at local night clubs, racking up tens of thousands of dollars in bar tabs by ordering bottles of Cristal Champagne and Belvedere vodka, according to people present on these occasions. He drives a Bentley, his friends say, wears expensive jackets and lives in one of Singapore's priciest penthouse apartments.

Mr. Saverin didn't respond to multiple interview requests.

Other Facebook founders have followed a somewhat different path, at least publicly. Mr. Zuckerberg is most often seen in public walking his dog, and continues to wear his signature zip-up hoodies and drive an Acura. Fellow Facebook co-founder Dustin Moskovitz launched a work-collaboration start-up and has pledged, along with Mr. Zuckerberg, to give half his wealth to charity. Chris Hughes worked for Barack Obama's presidential campaign and recently bought a controlling stake in the New Republic magazine.

In Singapore, Mr. Saverin is a Kardashian-like figure, with scores of fans hoping for a sighting. Local websites have set up forums with threads entitled "Where does one meet Eduardo Saverin in Singapore?" Bloggers and journalists have written long posts after spending mere seconds with the billionaire.

Singapore's Tatler, a society magazine, added him to its "300 List," which celebrates the biggest power players here, including a shipping-container magnate. Mr. Saverin's Facebook posts, which range from updates on his investment company to pictures from travels across the region and nostalgic reflections on Facebook itself, get thousands of "likes" and comments, and hundreds leave messages hoping to meet the man in person.

"Eduardo, I need to talk to you sir. For real! Hit me up," said one Facebook user on Mr. Saverin's public Facebook page.

Mr. Saverin, who hails from a wealthy Brazilian family, has never fully explained why he moved to Singapore, but he has mentioned its strategic location and business-friendly environment in his few public appearances. Those close to him say he once stopped off here while traveling in Asia and liked it.

The city-state has tried to become an Internet hub, with limited success. But it is increasingly known as a playground for the rich, with the world's highest percentage of millionaires, and its glitzy night life.

Its tightly controlled local media is largely free of the tabloids that hound celebrities in places like the U.S. Local press reports have referred to Mr. Saverin as a "Facebook legend," "nice and humble" and "generous" when spending on his friends in nightclubs. Night-life magazines refer to him as one of "Singapore's hottest partygoers."

Though Mr. Saverin speaks at select conferences, he is extremely media-shy, often declining to talk to the media.

Mr. Saverin has invested in a number of start-ups, mainly back in the U.S., including Shopsavvy, a price-comparison mobile application; Qwiki, a multimedia video website; and Jumio, a mobile-payments start-up. He put more than $6.5 million each into those companies.

Mr. Saverin's most notable local investment is in Singapore-based Anideo, headed chiefly by Andrew Solimine, a longtime friend. The company has developed a video-streaming application, Denso, that specializes in selecting videos based on a user's personal taste.

Although many of his investments are viewed as promising, none has been nearly as successful as Facebook, to the disappointment of local techies who had hoped his presence would kick-start the country's entrepreneurial scene.

"Eduardo doesn't invest in much. He doesn't invest in Singapore companies," grouses John Fearon, CEO of Singapore start-ups dropmysite.com and dropmyemail.com that back up emails and website content. He says he didn't ask Mr. Saverin for money. "He doesn't set up his stall and say, come to me for investment."

Some of Mr. Saverin's other projects have been less conventional, including a cosmetics line launched in 2010 by Rachel Kum, Singapore's 2009 entry in the Miss Universe pageant. Mr. Saverin invested an undisclosed sum in the company, according to people familiar with the matter. He appeared in a TV news report about the line's debut in footage showing him flanked by models.

Government and corporate leaders routinely invite him to speak at conferences and other functions, but he doesn't have a great record of showing up, though, organizers say.

Mr. Saverin was invited to judge pitches for start-ups last June at Echelon 2011, a conference sponsored by Microsoft Corp., Amazon.com Inc. and others. "It was exciting because "The Social Network" movie had come out, [and] there was a buzz about him being in Singapore," said Joon Ian Wong, who then worked for E27, the event's organizer. "Start-ups wanted to…see Saverin in the flesh."

But hours before he was due onstage, Mr. Saverin canceled via text message, saying he wasn't well. People familiar with the matter say he has canceled other appearances at the 11th hour.

None of that has dimmed his star in Singapore. Mr. Saverin's activities are good for the city-state, says Ash Singh, an investor and the CEO behind "Angel's Gate," an Asia-based reality-TV series focusing on investment and entrepreneurship. "Is Eduardo an entrepreneur? I don't know," he says. "But he did well for himself, he has come here, there is a movie about him, and people aspire to be like him."

Sam Holmes and Geoffrey A. Fowler contributed to this article.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/other-facebook-founder-040100527.html

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To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (165)5/5/2012 12:24:06 PM
From: i-node2 Recommendations   of 1272
 
>> A large portion of Mr. Zuckerberg’s bounty, roughly $2 billion, will be used to pay income taxes.


Great.

By hammering this ultra-wealthy person, we pay for about 12 hours of our government's operation.

If we could just double the rate at which we hammer the wealthy, Zuckerberg would be paying for a FULL day.

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To: Win-Lose-Draw who wrote (288)5/5/2012 6:00:32 PM
From: Glenn Petersen1 Recommendation   of 1272
 
I think that FB will pop on its opening day, but I don’t think that it will go through the roof.

· The valuation for FB is already high. Actually, it is hard to argue that it is not excessive. Like Google before it, Facebook is going to have to grow into its valuation.

· There are going to be a large number of shares in the float, unlike LinkedIn, and to lesser extent Groupon

· The final pricing will probably be adjusted upward from its current range of $28 to $35. I don’t think that Facebook’s management wants to leave too much money on the table.

· Where is Facebook going to get its next billion users? The easy work is done; it is now time to monetize those puppies.

· The registration statement and the attendant attention that it has received has removed much of the mystique from Facebook’s business model and exposed its weaknesses. There is still some mystery (at least to me) as to how Facebook is going to be able to monetize its users without offending their sensibilities.

· The first quarter numbers probably disappointed a lot of people

· There is a tech bubble, but it is not 1999.

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