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To: Smilor who wrote (1078)4/11/2012 7:13:47 AM
From: Mark Bartlett   of 5026
 
Smilor,


I agree ... and your English is fine... please, no need to apologize.

- M

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To: clubhouse19 who wrote (1076)4/11/2012 8:57:24 AM
From: glenn_a1 Recommendation   of 5026
 
clubhouse, if I sent you my e-mail address, would you be able to provide me a copy of the Midas newsletter material where James West talks "about the ongoing fiasco of the past two months"? I'd be interested to read it. Unless of course it is available online, in which case could you provide a link?

Re: the egg on the face of Byron and Hodgins, I think it's great that this thing has received the attention it has in the past couple days. Credibility is a thing not easily gained, but easily lost. I wasn't around for the earlier misrepresentations of Hykawy, but Hodgins in particular has lost some real credibility here IMO. Referencing Hykawy as a "geologist we should be paying attention to" highlights the superficiality of his DD.

But I agree, really happy Orbite responded as it did to the claims by Hykawy and Hodgins. If anything, Orbite has gained credibility in the process.

Anyway, M2CW.

glenn

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To: clubhouse19 who wrote (1076)4/11/2012 9:32:15 AM
From: LoneClone1 Recommendation   of 5026
 
You failed to grasp my point.

If they had mentioned the criticisms by Byron, no matter whether the criticisms are true or not, they would have hurt themselves. That is how smear campaigns work -- get something negative out there and people will associate the smear with the target, no matter whether the smear is true or not,

If you let them know there is smoke, people often apply the old saying "Where there's smoke, there's fire" whether it really applies in a particular case or not.

It's not whether the criticisms have merit, it's about whether you want to publicize them.

LC,

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To: LoneClone who wrote (1083)4/11/2012 10:05:59 AM
From: LoneClone   of 5026
 
Someone asked me to elucidate on how I would have revised yesterday's PR to fix the grammatical errors and awkward phrasings.

Here's the meat of the PR. am basing my comments on my extensive professional experience in writing and editing. If a paragraph needs work, I copied it in italics and tried to show the changes through bolding.


MONTREAL, QUEBEC--(Marketwire - April 10, 2012) - Orbite Aluminae Inc. ("Orbite" or the "Company") (TSX: ORT.TO - News) confirms its choice for hydrochloric acid ("HCl") recovery technology for its smelter grade alumina ("SGA") plant operations based on data from SMS Siemag and ThyssenKrupp supporting the hydrothermal process efficiency and recovery rates. Part of the design of the SGA plant implies the recovery and the regeneration of hydrochloric acid. Key decision factors in selecting this technology include the high yield recovery of acid, economic viability, as well as environmental friendliness.

Orbite's engineers conducted a thorough technical due diligence of the technologies available including spray roasting, fluidized beds and hydrothermal process. The selection process included sites visits of such commercial scale operations.

Orbite's engineers conducted thorough technical due diligence of the technologies available, including spray roasting, fluidized beds and hydrothermal processes. The selection process included site visits to commercial scale operations.

As a result of the technical due diligence, the Company has selected the hydrothermal process from SMS Siemag as the technology of choice. This decision was based on the technology's ability to respond to large commercial scale requirements including high recovery yield, low energy consumption with regard to lower operating temperatures, product quality (HCl concentration and hematite quality) and very low atmosphere emissions.

As a result of the technical due diligence, the Company has selected the hydrothermal process from SMS Siemag. The decision was based on the technology's ability to respond to large commercial scale requirements including high recovery yield, low energy consumption due to lower operating temperatures, product quality (HCl concentration and hematite quality) and very low levels of atmosphere emissions.

"The Hydrothermal Acid Regeneration Plant at ThyssenKrupp Steel USA located in Calvert, Alabama is continuing its operations. SMS Siemag is pursuing the commissioning and utilization of the Hydrothermal Acid Regeneration Plant. Demonstration of energy consumption, recovery rates as well as product and by-product quality targets have already been achieved" said a senior executive at SMS Siemag Process Technologies GmbH.

I won't even try with this quote, which I surmise has been translated from German to French and then to English. I would have to start with the original in German to make it read properly.


"We have great confidence in the Hydrothermal Acid Regeneration technology for our planned SGA plant, as well as in SMS Siemag's expertise in that field. Our Chief Scientific and Chief Engineer performed a due diligence at the ThyssenKrupp Steel USA, and their conclusions reinforced our choice to choose the Hydrothermal Acid Regeneration technology rather than more conventional ones, and this, in order to achieve a clean technology and a low energy consumption Smelter Grade Alumina plant", said Richard Boudreault, President and CEO of Orbite Aluminae.

"We have great confidence in the Hydrothermal Acid Regeneration technology for our planned SGA plant, as well as in SMS Siemag's expertise in that field. Our Chief Scientific and Chief Engineer performed due diligence at the ThyssenKrupp Steel USA, and their conclusions reinforced our choice of the Hydrothermal Acid Regeneration technology rather than more conventional ones in order to construct a clean technology and a low energy consumption Smelter Grade Alumina plant", said Richard Boudreault, President and CEO of Orbite Aluminae.

As planned, Orbite will be generating revenues by the end of 2012 and beyond with its High Purity Alumina Plant, while looking to licence its patented technologies. The first SGA plant is planned for the end of 2013 or beginning of 2014 with the active cooperation of Rusal, the world's largest aluminum producer.

As planned, Orbite will be generating revenues by the end of 2012 with its High Purity Alumina Plant, while looking to licence its patented technologies. Completion of the first SGA plant is planned for the end of 2013 or beginning of 2014 with the active cooperation of Rusal, the world's largest aluminum producer.

This editing took me just a few minutes. If I was taking this seriously, I would now put it aside for a few hours and then do a final edit.

LC

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To: LoneClone who wrote (1084)4/11/2012 10:18:27 AM
From: verjam   of 5026
 
With all due respect, you are spending way too much time on grammar. I think we should keep posts on SI to more relevant issues and keep these minor critiques to Stockhouse. With all of the money I have invested in this company, I'm more focused on execution.

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From: philv4/11/2012 10:33:08 AM
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Post says Orbite moves to rebutt analyst

Orbite Aluminae Inc (C:ORT)
Shares Issued 168,027,315
Last Close 4/10/2012 $2.10
Wednesday April 11 2012 - In the News

The Financial Post reports in its Wednesday edition that Orbite Aluminae has been pushed onto the defensive after an analyst questioned whether its acid-recovery technology actually works. The Post's Nicolas Van Praet writes Orbite, which has seen its market capitalization jump to $375-million based on its technology, hosted a conference call Tuesday to defuse a research report published Monday by Toronto analyst Jon Hykawy of Byron Capital Markets Ltd. It was unclear whether that effort succeeded. Orbite stock fell nearly 6 per cent to close at $2.10 Tuesday on a volume of 3.46 million shares. The issue concerns a technology developed by SMS Siemag and to be used by Orbite as spelled out in the preliminary economic assessment [PEA] for its alumina refinery project to recycle hydrochloric acid. Orbite insists the process is viable. A key element of the analyst's research concerns a move by German steelmaker ThyssenKrupp AG to award a $15-million (U.S.) contract to International Steel Services for a new acid regeneration facility at its steel mill in Alabama. The mill is served by an existing acid regeneration plant that uses new Siemag technology. The analyst urged caution, starting coverage with a "sell" rating and price target of 90 cents.

© 2012 Canjex Publishing Ltd.

I researched International Steel Services. They have been in the Acid recycling and regeneration business a track record of 50 years - proven technology it seems - for the steel industry.

issi-amrox-usa.com 

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To: verjam who wrote (1085)4/11/2012 10:50:21 AM
From: clubhouse19   of 5026
 
Correct...
They didn't have hours to come back and re-edit
The issue here was getting something out ASAP to officially rebutt this Bay street clown.

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To: clubhouse19 who wrote (1087)4/11/2012 11:30:48 AM
From: Detective2 Recommendations   of 5026
 
Everything ORT communicates publicly to the investment community in particular must be, (not needs to be, if time permitted, when we get around to it, etc., etc.,) top quality. Grammatically / content correct, in both official languages. Press releases from other small and large companies that do business in Quebec and outside ( or around the world ) are posted every day.

It's not hard. Just check Bell, TELUS etc., etc.,

ORT pays for these services, with our investment dollars.

Technology integration on this scale is hard.

Folks, its our money.

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To: verjam who wrote (1085)4/11/2012 1:41:10 PM
From: LoneClone1 Recommendation   of 5026
 
The #1 factor in evaluating junior companies is the quality of management.

Between the company's history of poorly written PRs and the dustups with regulators, getting things right is very important. If they couldn't take the ten minutes to make the PR look professional, that's another distinct warning sign.

Every PR is like a job application to investors. Would you hand in a resume that was as poorly written as this?

Fortunately, I think management have their hands on something that will transcend their obvious shortcomings, but they really need to sharpen their game ASAP.

LC

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To: LoneClone who wrote (1089)4/11/2012 2:00:14 PM
From: verjam   of 5026
 
Did you email the company's IR department. I found them to be quite forthcoming on responses. Perhaps you can make your concerns known to them there so they might work on this shortcoming. If you do, perhaps you can keep us up-to-date with any new developments. That would be value added. Thank you.

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