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To: SI Brad who wrote (777)2/28/2012 1:41:03 PM
From: The Jack of Hearts
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I'm comfy with old way (home grown markup lingo.. but addition of YouTube was a nice touch :o)

so will Android be better supported in future ? I am going to be considering a tablet/keyboard combo and I like the android platform so far..

it's all good :O)

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To: SI Brad who wrote (777)2/28/2012 1:45:14 PM
From: The Jack of Hearts
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Brad I take it back... I LOVE the new YouTube button :O)

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To: The Jack of Hearts who wrote (778)2/28/2012 2:34:54 PM
From: SI Brad
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Yes, Android and iPhones will be better supported in the future, although iPhone will naturally get more attention, since that's what I use :)

I don't plan to create Apps for mobile devices, but instead make the built-in browsers work smoothly with the SI website. My goal at this point is to make sure mobile is minimally functional (i.e. not unusable) while I get my hands around detecting and tailoring the interface to best support them.

I bought a Xoom last year, but it stopped functioning. What Android device do you recommend I get for testing purposes?

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To: SI Brad who wrote (780)2/28/2012 3:54:22 PM
From: The Jack of Hearts
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Yes, Android and iPhones will be better supported in the future, although iPhone will naturally get more attention, since that's what I use :)

What Android device do you recommend I get for testing purposes?

A Nexus S... because that's what I have LOL Apparently the OS 4.0 is delayed (testing in certain locales) for my phone.. so hopefully ... but I guess that means you can test based on an Ice Cream Sandwich (OS 4.0) device..

I can't look at my phone as a phone anymore.. Phoning is probably the least used function.. I text a lot, email, GPS, trade and of course read SI :O) .

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From: Henry J Costanzo2/29/2012 1:00:38 PM
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IMHO...An unsatisfactory feature of existing setup...When posts are edited within the 15-min timeframe....and such edits can be quite important......... no notice of that appears anywhere, and can be entirely missed by all interested parties...

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From: Henry J Costanzo2/29/2012 1:12:16 PM
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PS...Easy solution, I guess, could be to eliminate 15min editing, forcing any corrections/edits to be put up as new posts...????...(such as this post...lol)

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To: Henry J Costanzo who wrote (782)2/29/2012 1:21:19 PM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell
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What sort of solution would you propose? Personally, I take it upon myself to indicate a revision, e.g.

Edit: Score now 21-7.

If after editing a post I see someone has already replied to it, I'll write another quick post to say "I edited my post".

Are you saying that's not good enough? That the onus should be on SI to indicate if a post is revised? The problem there is that I would bet 99% of all revised posts are because of typos you didn't realize you'd made, or incorrect syntax you failed to note, until you read them "live". Most posts are usually read >15 minutes after they were written, so even if a "revised" tag was attached it would be meaningless to most, not to mention most people, if asked, would reply "I corrected typos".

Or did I misinterpret your suggestion?

- Jeff

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To: Henry J Costanzo who wrote (782)2/29/2012 1:22:51 PM
From: Sr K
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Here are 2 ways this could be implemented:

For those who Reply to a post, Blink an alert if the post is edited during the 15-minute window. The edit could occur during the Reply so you cannot measure from the timestamp of the Reply(or the timestamp of the Edit). This should Blink for a reasonable time >15 minutes because the Reply-er may have walked away or looked away from that thread or the SubjectMarks header.

For those who viewed a post, Blink an alert if the post is edited during the 15-minute window. The edit could occur during the view and I don't think SI stores who viewed a post so you need a different measure and message. This should Blink for a reasonable time >30 minutes because the View-er may have walked away or looked away from that thread or the SubjectMarks header.

These features could be Off by default but optionally set On.

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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (784)2/29/2012 1:26:25 PM
From: Henry J Costanzo
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Seems to me would simplify matters to eliminate the editing feature altogether...which, btw, already done for PM's, which cannot be edited..

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To: Sr K who wrote (785)2/29/2012 1:34:43 PM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell
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These solutions are all reader-centric. For example, I write a post, you read it a minute after I click submit, then I revise it, then SI Ron comes along and reads it. For you, having read only the original version, I understand that having a blinking "revised" would be helpful. But for Ron, having never read the original, it's meaningless to know it was revised. For something to be reader-centric, you have to have client-side code (code specific to you, like Javascript, or more precisely AJAX) running. Even still, most of the time you'd be scratching your head wondering why a post was changed, putting the onus on the writer to have to indicate what he changed, bringing it full circle to the poster not SI.

- Jeff

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