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To: unclewest who wrote (529)4/24/2012 11:27:58 PM
From: Farmboy   of 1119
 
Yes, Unclewest, it is indeed a great museum.

The XB-70 is something else.

I was there in ... 1987 I believe, attending the Security Assistance course at Wright-Patt. Spent a couple of truly enjoyable Saturday morning at the museum (and a couple of enjoyable Saturday nights in Dayton! LOL)

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To: LindyBill who wrote (528)4/26/2012 1:52:46 PM
From: ManyMoose   of 1119
 
One of the Raiders, David Thatcher, is a member of the church I grew up in. His plane was the one portrayed in "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo." I talked to him at my mother's memorial gathering one year ago. His son G
Gary was a helicopter pilot and was killed in Vietnam.
Robert Considine (book)

Cast (in credits order) verified as complete

Van Johnson ... Ted Lawson - Crew of the Ruptured Duck

Robert Walker ... David Thatcher - Crew of the Ruptured Duck

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From: mistermj4/27/2012 1:48:13 PM
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This video was created to commemorate the 67FS winning the 2011 Raytheon Trophy for outstanding aerial achievement, given to the top air-to-air squadron in the USAF.



2012 Raytheon Award Video

Video:
http://vimeo.com/40935850

This video was created to commemorate the 67FS winning the 2011 Raytheon Trophy for outstanding aerial achievement, given to the top air-to-air squadron in the USAF.

The footage was shot over 1 year of flying with a Sony HD Handycam and GOPRO Hero. The footage was shot entirely by pilots, no combat camera personnel were used. The video was edited with Sony Vegas Movie Studio HD over 2 weeks by Jersey. Footage includes flying and aircraft from both the 67FS "Fighting Cocks" and the 44FS "Vampire Bats", entirely on location at Kadena AB, Japan. Most of the over water footage was filmed while we were raging like demons from hell in the skies over the pacific ocean like our brothers did 70 years before us.

Credits.
-All Tower footage filmed by Jersey
-Unrestricted Climb ground view camera: Wreck and Switch
-Backseat Unrestricted climb pilot: Egg
-GO Pro captains: Blue, Hozen,Egg
-Go Pro Majors: Jersey, Lips, Crusher
- 2 ship BFM footage pilots: Jersey, Hozen, Snizzler, Trip, Wreck
- Large Force Engagement Radio Voices: Cock 1: Jersey, Cock 2: Match, Cock 3: Flash, Cock 4: Blaze
- BFM radio voices: Guano and Jersey

All editing by Jersey.

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From: LindyBill4/30/2012 8:56:44 AM
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"All Your Tomahawks Are Belong To Us
April 27, 2012: The U.S. Navy is equipping SOCOM (Special Operations Command) operators (Special Forces and SEALs) with the ability to transmit new target locations, for mobile targets, to a navy command center that will update the GPS location a ship-launched cruise missile is headed for. Most of the Tomahawks ever used have been fired at land targets, and this new capability gives SOCOM operators a powerful capability if they are less than 1,200 kilometers from an ocean.

The current Tomahawk, the Block 4, costs about $1.8 million each, weighs 1.4 tons, has a range of 1,500 kilometers, and carries a half ton warhead. It moves to its target at a speed of 880 kilometers an hour. The Tomahawk was introduced 29 years ago and over 6,000 have been manufactured. The U.S. Navy has fired nearly 2,000 in combat and training.

The Block 4s are also getting upgraded so that they can hit moving targets. This is mainly intended to turn the Tomahawk into an anti-ship missile, although it can also hit moving land targets. The Tomahawk has been a primary land attack weapon for surface ships and submarines since the 1990s. The Block 3 entered service in 1994, but the Block 4 was a big upgrade, adding GPS and the ability to go after a different target while the missile was in flight.

The United States is developing a successor to the Tomahawk cruise missile that will be heavier (2.2 tons), have a longer range (2,000 kilometers), and a larger (one ton) warhead. The new missile will be stealthier and use a combination of guidance and targeting systems (to improve the chances of success). Price will probably be the key factor in whether this new missile ever enters service. The new Cruise Missile XR (for Extended Range) will probably cost at least twice as much as the current Tomahawk.

The cruise missile, when it showed up in the 1980s, was one of the first UAVs, it just wasn't reusable. But UAVs that carry bombs and missiles and can be reused are going to provide competition for a new, $3 million, Cruise Missile XR."

strategypage.com 

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From: ManyMoose4/30/2012 9:35:35 PM
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Sounds like you had it pegged, LindyBill. The caption says Pilots Refusing to fly F-22 because of oxygen issue.


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To: ManyMoose who wrote (535)5/3/2012 4:28:14 PM
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Got this in an email today:


Thursday, May 3, 2012
AFA members, Congressional staff members, civic leaders, DOCA members, last night ABC news did a piece on the F-22 … and I am told 60 minutes also plans to do one. Simply put – from my perspective – the piece was a hatchet job. ABC had no one … repeat no one … who could provide balance – the other side of the issue.

One of AFA’s Airpower Advocates was to give a talk to a civic group this morning … and asked me what he should say about the issue. His specific questions were:

What are the facts to the claims of: $500M airplane; never flown in combat; designed for a Soviet fighter that doesn’t exist; an O2 system that kills pilots and after groundings could not be fixed?

I responded:

[Name deleted], here is what I say about it.

  • The flyaway cost for the last block of F-22s was $142M each.
  • Because DoD terminated the program before 752 were delivered, the R&D costs were amortized over a smaller number of A/C. Much like the B-2
    • There’s a lesson here: we have to buy aircraft – especially fighters – in quantity
      • Government gets a better price – quantity discount and for multi-year procurement saves even more …
      • Quality of the manufacturing process improves as one goes down the learning curve
      • The last block of F-22s came off the production line without any defects … and on time and budget
      • Nation gets the assets it needs to defend the US
      • Our daughters and sons fly modern equipment – not 50 year old planes that are geriatric
  • Part of the F-22 R&D costs rolled into the F-35 program … so they were needed in any event
  • The F-22 has not flown in combat … despite requests from theater commanders for them
    • The reason for this is simple – they were not needed
    • The F-22 IOC’d (Initial Operational Capability) in 2005 – well after we had attained air superiority in Iraq and Afghanistan
    • There is evidence that Sec Gates did not approve commander requests for the aircraft so he could implement his cancellation order and not be overturned by Congress
  • The F-22 is needed for any combat zone where there are modern air defenses.
  • This includes places such as PRC, Iran, RU, Taiwan
  • The US considered creating a no-fly zone over the country of Georgia when the Russians attacked Georgia … and the only airplane that could have survived was the F-22 … due to the Russians deploying modern SAMs to their border
  • If the US had used F-22s for Libya, they could have saved many billions of dollars of Tomahawks … as the aircraft could have roamed the battlefield with impunity and plinked key targets with JDAMs.
  • Both the Russians and the Chinese are building 5th generation fighters
    • The Russians have already agreed to sell theirs to India
    • China has indicated it will sell theirs
    • We may not fight either country … but we will fight their “stuff”
  • Never in the history of modern warfare has one side won in combat without air superiority. It is like Oxygen – you need it and you won’t miss it until you don’t have it.
  • The Oxygen system is a problem [note the slick transition from the point above] … and the AF has put its brightest minds on fixing it … but they don’t yet know what the problem is
  • The Air Force says it was not the cause of the (F-22) accident in Alaska …
  • It is the same system that is on the Navy’s F-18
    • The F-18 has had more than 20 incidents with the system … and doesn’t know why either
    • One has to wonder why the public (and ABC) is not focusing on the safety of F-18s …
    • The Navy joined the AF in trying to determine how to fix the system
  • The AF has made significant changes to warn the pilots of problems – filters, warning lights, supplement O2, etc.
    • But … these are just that … supplemental … and don’t fix the problem
    • The AF hopes to know by late summer what the actual cause is
  • I would only add one more point … Senator McCain appeared on ABC, making some deprecating remarks about the aircraft. The exchange went like this:

    “(Brian) ROSS: Senator John McCain, a former combat pilot himself, says the plane was designed to fight a next-generation Soviet jet that was never built, and has little use now against the enemies America is fighting.

    (Senator) MCCAIN: There’s no purpose unless you believe that al Qaeda is going to have a fleet of aircraft.”

    The good Senator (who I believe knows better) implies we should only build the force to fight Al Qaida. That is shortsighted on many levels … planning to fight the last war; not preparing for the future; etc. etc. Taken to the extreme, it would imply we need a much smaller Navy – which I think is also shortsighted.

    For your consideration.

    Mike

    Michael M. Dunn
    President/CEO
    Air Force Association


    "The only thing more expensive than a first-rate Air Force is … a second-rate Air Force." -- Senate staff member



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    To: SmoothSail who wrote (536)5/6/2012 7:01:27 AM
    From: Tom Clarke1 Recommendation   of 1119
     
    Rethinking the Crusades

    Jonah Goldberg's new book is not of any more interest to me than was his last book, but I saw via Instapundit that he had posted an excerpt on the Crusades. That is a subject that interests me, so I read through what he had to say.

    His general point is that the Crusades should be thought of as a kind of defensive war, rather than a kind of proto-imperialism. Further, he adds, rather than an affront to Islam they represent one of Islam's minor victories.

    Let me offer you a different way of thinking about the Crusades.

    Most of what you'll see written on the subject in popular sources will focus on either the First Crusade (characterized by its mystical vision of St. George, and apparently miraculous success in recapturing Jerusalem), or the Third Crusade (with the irresistible characters of Richard the Lionheart and Saladin). What we call "the First Crusade," though, wasn't really the first one at all.

    If by "Crusade" we mean a war undertaken by Western fighting men who fought to capture land from Muslims in return for a spiritual promise from the Church that their sins would be expiated by the violence, we should look to 1063. The Pope at that time was Alexander II, who sent a bull to clerics in France to encourage French knights to join in fighting against the Muslims in what is now Spain. This is thirty years before the "First Crusade," but it was followed by several more.

    The Papacy held that the Iberian peninsula was the actual property of St. Peter, and therefore belonged to the Church: a series of Popes from Alexander to the famous Urban encouraged one crusade after another to recapture the land and restore it to the dominion of the Pope. The kings of the Spanish kingdoms began to enjoy significant success, but of course they didn't wish to accept the domination of the Pope once they had captured the land. The Church eventually settled its claims in return for properties, chiefly granted to the new Crusader orders -- the Templars and the Hospitallers, that is. Less well known, though, were a whole series of Crusader knightly orders that were particular to the Spanish crusades, set up by the kings along the same lines as the more famous orders to fight in Spain.

    The popes even went so far as to issue an order forbidding Spanish knights from going to the Crusades in the east, because they were needed to fight at home.

    Now, if you factor in the Spanish crusade with the Eastern ones, the question of whether 'the Crusades' represent an Islamic victory looks a bit different. The Muslims eventually recaptured Jerusalem, and indeed Constantinople; however, they lost Spain entirely. Furthermore, the structures set up to conquer in Spain were largely transferable to the New World in 1492 -- that is, the year when the last Islamic lands fell in Spain, while Columbus opened the way west. The effect of the Spanish crusades was thus the conquest and conversion of the entire population of South and Central America; it would have been the conversion of the whole of the Americas if not for the religious wars that split the Christian faith.

    In addition, to get a full appreciation of the Crusades you have to look at the ones internal to Europe, where they were about enforcing discipline and putting down dangerous heresies. The success of these was mixed -- indeed, the religious wars just mentioned could be seen as the final failure -- but they are also an important part of the picture.

    Seen as a whole, the Crusades become a different picture. They were far more than an attempt to recapture lands from Islam, and far more successful than at first may appear. They didn't win everywhere, or for all time, but the strength and size of Christianity even today is directly related to their prosecution.

    By the way, if you want to read a book on the Spanish Crusades, an excellent one is Reconquest and Crusade in Medieval Spain by Joseph F. O'Callaghan. His writing on medieval military organization and financing is somewhat general, but he puts together the history of events very well.

    grimbeorn.blogspot.com 

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    From: Tom Clarke5/6/2012 7:07:00 AM
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    To: Tom Clarke who wrote (538)5/8/2012 4:04:37 PM
    From: SmoothSail   of 1119
     
    UPDATE:


    From: President@afa.org
    To:
    Sent: 5/8/2012 6:53:47 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time
    Subj: Note From AFA President -- F-22 (again)



    Tuesday, May 8, 2012
    AFA members, I’ve read a few of the responses I’ve gotten from my F-22 notes from last week … and I would like to make a few corrections.

    First, almost every aircraft – including large aircraft -- have, historically, had hypoxia problems. The causes vary from human mistake, G-induced loss of consciousness, contaminants, breathing, and many, many others. Seldom is it just one issue.

    Secondly, the Air Force and Navy have had on board oxygen generating systems in many aircraft for many years. The systems are designed to reduce weight, reduce deployed people and equipment, and limit handling issues. The systems also have flown many millions of hours without incident or malfunction.

    Third, I think I heard from nearly every AFA member who flew or had flown the F-18. They were proud of their aircraft and (rightly) complained that I threw the F-18 “under-the-bus” … That was not my intent. My intent was to show that the ABC piece was slanted and biased [“We only need it when the Taliban gets an Air Force … and it is only good for flying air shows.] … As an Airpower advocate in the largest sense, I know better …

    Fourth, it’s probably inaccurate to think that the Oxygen system in the F-22 is at fault for hypoxia in the aircraft. If it were that simple, then the Air Force would have fixed it by now. The ACC commander was quoted on 60 Minutes last Sunday as saying, “If … [we] … knew what the problem was, it would be gone. … [We] … just have not found the problem yet.” It is clear that there may be multiple causes for the hypoxia incidents that have emerged.

    Almost all of you commented on Sen McCain’s comments. While I believe they were unprofessional, I need to point out that interviews are not often very short. Many times there are edits … and it is possible that there was context around his comments that were edited out of the final airing.

    Finally, many of you told me you did not see the 60 Minute piece. For those of you who missed it, a transcript can be found at: http://www.afa.org/EdOp/2012/CBS-60-Minutes.pdf

    For your consideration.

    Mike

    Michael M. Dunn
    President/CEO
    Air Force Association


    "The only thing more expensive than a first-rate Air Force is … a second-rate Air Force." -- Senate staff member



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    To: LindyBill who wrote (534)5/9/2012 6:11:05 AM
    From: unclewest   of 1119
     
    I called in a lot of mortars and 8" and 155 artillery in combat. The guns were never located more than a few miles away. Some are more accurate than others and each has what is known as the "danger close distance". That is the minimum spacing between the friendly unit and the impact zone.

    Can't imagine calling for a 1.4 ton bomb to be fired from 1,250 miles away. What is the danger close distance for that?

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